Posted: 11/18/2006 2:10:12 PM EDT
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www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=9&t=517920 I saw the links posted here at the end but, how can I make these prices cheaper? These prices are already cheap but, I want the lowest price possible!  5.56x45mm Per 1000 Bullets $29.00 Pulled Surplus M193 55gr FMJ Powder $37.90 WC-844 Surplus (Approximately 1000 rounds worth with my load) 8LB= $84.99 Primers $17.75 Winchester Small Rifle (I’m open to using CCI also. The same primers at my local club are $18.30) Total $84.65 Cost Per Round $00.0846 9mm Bullets $61.99 Rainier Plated 147gr JHP (I’m open to most any 147gr bullet) Powder $8.00 Winchester Super Field (Approximately 1000 rounds worth) 1LB=$14.85 Primers $18.00 Federal Small Pistol (Must be Federal brand in order to function in my gun) Total $87.99 Cost Per Round $00.087 9mm lead Bullets $46.98 Oregon Trail 147gr Lead FP Powder $8.00 Winchester Super Field (Approximately 1000 rounds worth) 1LB=$14.85 Primers $18.00 (Must be Federal brand in order to function in my gun) Total $72.98 Cost Per Round $00.0729 I'm not sure if I want to go with lead for that price difference...  The only rules with the .223 loads is that they must make 3000FPS out of a 20" bbl and, you should be able to place rounds in a 6"x11" space 100% of the time with a 11.5", 16", and 20" barrel lengths at 300 Yards. |
They are, I reloaded the ones I found. I shot about 50 of them and they worked just fine with no problems. Finding reloadable .223 brass isn't that hard. You shouldn't ever have to buy any. Show up to a few ARFCOM shoots or a 3-gun match and you'll be set for a long time. I've only met a handful of people who load .223 so most just leave it on the ground. At VSPs carbine class, I left with about 3000 brass casings. I've got about 4000-5000 at home and I've never had more than 2000 rounds loaded in one caliber at once. The only reason I didn't get more is because we had to leave the range early and get somewhere. |
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The only suggestions I have are swaging your own .223 bullets using rimfire cases and casting your own 9mm bullets. I've never swaged jacketed bullets,but I have cast many pounds of 38/357,44 mag,and 45 ACP bullets,along with round balls for muzzle loading and 45-70 bullets. After you buy the equipment,if you can scrounge the lead(wheel weights and picked up bullets after it rains at the range),cast bullets are almost free if you use plain base ones. The only expense is a little electricity and bullet lube. But it takes a long time to pay for the equipment. Bullet casting is a little dangerous(lead exposure and burns),a little smelly(and smokey ),sometimes annoying when the bullets won't come out right,and somewhat time consuming. In the day of progressive presses,I don't know how many people would want to spend an evening casting bullets. Swaging bullets from rimfire casings and lead wire is how Vernon Speer got his start durning WW2 when metal was hard to get and bullets even harder because of rationing for the war effort. You can swage larger calibers too,using wire lead or cast cores. Most swaged bullets these days are custom bullets that may not be available otherwise. Hope this helps. |