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AR15.COM
5/12/2005 12:34:44 PM EDT
Hi,

Greg Sullivan (Sully) of Defensive Edge and I are conducting a series of polls in the Tactics & Training Forum. The object of which is an attempt to gain a better understanding of why many firearms owners do not enroll in formal training courses. Please visit the Tactics & Training Forum to vote.

However, we ask those who are not at least 18 years of age to refrain from voting. The reason being is that 18 years of age is the minimum age whereby one can sign a *hold harmless, release and covenant not to sue* which is a requirement in most training courses.

You're participation is very much appreciated.

Thank you.
5/12/2005 12:52:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Done and Done,

In my opinion, It sounds like the courses are too expensive. I mean,

1 I wouldnt want to do it without my significant other,
2 If that was the case, 600 dollars is a lot of money,
3 Most people cant get 3 days off, and even if they could, they wouldnt want to spend those days training
4 Most people feel somewhat comfortable with their ability to shoot, though it may be in vain.

ZCHF
5/12/2005 8:09:23 PM EDT
[#2]
There are quite a few factors for why I would not go to a training course of any kind.

1. Family/work. For me, Both and one in the same. Everyone in my family is a rancher, and we all work, all 8 of us. No one takes off unless it's for something important/serious.

2. The money. I make $400 a week, before taxes. So you can imagine that doesn't leave a whole lot to play around with. You would be asking me to put my entire weeks paycheck, probably even more, on a course that would last 3 days at most.

3. Location. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot gun wise in this area. I am sure it is there, and I just don't know where it is yet, but as I said, I got one day off, so it would have to be a grand total of 12-16 hours for driving, training, and then driving home again. That limits the locations quite a bit.

4. Lack of guns. I think most people would think it would be kind of pointless to take a tactical class with what is California legal.


There are other reasons, but those are most of them.

So a class would have to be comparably cheap, one day only, within a 2-3 hour drive of my house, fall on my day off, and then I would CONSIDER going. So as you can imagine, it would never happen, even though I would really love to go to one sooner or later. Now if you had a class set up close to the California border in Nevada or Arizona, 1 day, cost ~$200 and you could rent an AR-15 for the day, I for one would be FAR more inclined to go. It seems that the classes around now are more aimed at die hard tactical fans who have been trained for years and there just really isn't an entry point. That's at least how I view it any ways.