Posted: 1/18/2012 11:08:59 AM EDT
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Any recommendations for a .223, I'm thinking Third eye Tactical Spartan at the moment? www.aseutra.fi/jet-z-cqb-bl-and-jet-z-cqbs-bl-suppressor Very tacticool Rog, but I'm really after a mod which slips over the barrel as mine is 20" & I'd like to keep the length as short as possible. 
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Ase north star? You beat me to it
http://www.aseutra.fi/northstar-ns-3b-suppressors ETA: Or even a good old BR T4..... http://www.soundmoderators.co.uk/ |
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I have had a PES. And a Reflex. Now an Ase Utra Compact.
The PES was good and a bit better balanced than the Reflex. The reflex developed a hole in the top after 1000 or so rounds but they supplied another at nominal cost. The Ase Utra is the best I think. Its small and short for a screw on type even compared to over barrel types. Its very quiet for its size. The CQB model Bradders showed me at last years phoenix was even smaller. If I ever need to replace the Compact, I will get the CQB. |
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I'm a big fan of Ase Utra and Tuukka is a top bloke.
I think I'll be migrating over to the Borelock system soon. FWIW, they all add length and it really doesn't matter about actual OAL I've no experience of Third Eye's product although they do make very good stuff |
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Any recommendations for a .223, I'm thinking Third eye Tactical Spartan at the moment? www.aseutra.fi/jet-z-cqb-bl-and-jet-z-cqbs-bl-suppressor Very tacticool Rog, but I'm really after a mod which slips over the barrel as mine is 20" & I'd like to keep the length as short as possible. How about the S series SL5 in .223? http://www.aseutra.fi/s-series-sl5-suppressor 300 series stainless steel with a fully welded design. Weight c. 390-430 grams depending on the thread size and only adds 98mm to the rifle. Best Regards! Tuukka Jokinen Ase Utra sound suppressors |
Whenever suppressors are mentioned on any shooting forum, Tuukka always pops up as if by magic 
Another thing to consider, every time I have been looking for another suppressor and I think about something a bit new or unusual, they are always a three to six week wait. The only one I have found consistently to be available off the shelf is the BR reflex (and I expect ASE will be the same). Take into account the BR trade in offer on an old one to new, and that's why all three of my centrefire mods are BR
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Another thing to consider, every time I have been looking for another suppressor and I think about something a bit new or unusual, they are always a three to six week wait. The only one I have found consistently to be available off the shelf is the BR reflex (and I expect ASE will be the same). because they're dated so few people buy them, hence the availability... 
Take into account the BR trade in offer on an old one to new, and that's why all three of my centrefire mods are BR
Buy a proper mod and it won't rust to shit and you won't need to replace it. Maybe they have to offer a discount of they wouldn't sell any at all
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Another thing to consider, every time I have been looking for another suppressor and I think about something a bit new or unusual, they are always a three to six week wait. The only one I have found consistently to be available off the shelf is the BR reflex (and I expect ASE will be the same). because they're dated so few people buy them, hence the availability...
Take into account the BR trade in offer on an old one to new, and that's why all three of my centrefire mods are BR
Buy a proper mod and it won't rust to shit and you won't need to replace it. Maybe they have to offer a discount of they wouldn't sell any at all
I take it Mat76 has had a bad experience with BR then..... 
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I,ve seen T8,s that were ten years old, and used regularly. They were looked after properly, and oiled after use.
Also have a guy who comes in once a year for a new one. He flatly refuses to look after it, and it rusts through from the inside out. The T8 is still one of the quietest mods out there, and was designed as a consumable item. I sell more ase utra,s than all the other mods put together, and have never had one back. They are built like a tank, and made to last. They are also probarbly the quietest mod out there. |
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I take it Mat76 has had a bad experience with BR then..... No, just stirring
That and I don't understand why anyone would bother with them when there are better alternatives, I really couldn't be arsed to oil a mod, I mean, that'd be like owning a blackpowder
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As I understand the cqb bore lock will be coming with a mounting collar only, and not a full flash hider. As far as I see his collar can be mounted on the A2 hider. Hope to find out soon as ime down for one ! Actually there are two types, There's the collar as you describe that mounts behind the original flash hider and the dedicated flash hider mount. The latter has been recommended as the preferred way to go. Price difference between the two is minimal. I know what I'm going for |
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As I understand the cqb bore lock will be coming with a mounting collar only, and not a full flash hider. As far as I see his collar can be mounted on the A2 hider. Hope to find out soon as ime down for one ! Actually there are two types, There's the collar as you describe that mounts behind the original flash hider and the dedicated flash hider mount. The latter has been recommended as the preferred way to go. Price difference between the two is minimal. I know what I'm going for The BoreLock mounting collar is intended for those who are already using a specialized flash hider, such as the SE Vortex flash hider, allowing the use of that. For others our bird cage type BoreLock flash hider has made more sense. However, we have a new high performance BoreLock flash hider nearing the end of its testing. In our testing it has been better than the AAC Blackout on 10" barrels and pretty much on par with the Blackout and the SE Vortex on 14.5" and 16" barrels. it will be available before the summer in 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm, the product codes will be added to our website when they are available ( http://www.aseutra.fi/ase-utra-borelock-flash-hider-and-muzzle-brake-mount-combatibility ) We have a metal thread proctector for the BoreLock mounts and it will be included as a standard accessory from now on. Best Regards! Tuukka Jokinen Ase Utra sound suppressors |
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No, just stirring
That and I don't understand why anyone would bother with them when there are better alternatives, I really couldn't be arsed to oil a mod, I mean, that'd be like owning a blackpowder For utility rifles, they may be boring, but they work. There may be flashier looking or more trendy (read more expensive) mods around, but as Dave says the BR is one of the quietest. As I said in my earlier post I use them on all three of my foxing/deer rifles. They get knocked about when I am out on the quad but are as tough as old boots. When I get home I take the mod off and dry it (it is the corrosive gases and condensation that rots them from the inside out), and occasionally they get a squirt of WD40 (Bob Jackson's recommended way to look after them). My oldest T8 is four years old, it has been out in all weathers, and is still as good as new. When (if) it does eventually corrode, I can PX it for a new one at 60% of the cost of new. What's not to like? |
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Would you consider making the Borelock with a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider? The BoreLock muzzle brake is already available in .30 / .338 ( need to update more threads for them to our site ) It has not yet been sized for 5.56 mm. Regards! Tuukka Joklinen Ase Utra sound suppressors |
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Would you consider making the Borelock with a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider? The BoreLock muzzle brake is already available in .30 / .338 ( need to update more threads for them to our site ) It has not yet been sized for 5.56 mm. Regards! Tuukka Joklinen Ase Utra sound suppressors Well get to work then
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Moderators have always been a bit of a pet subject of mine.
Different people require different things from a mod, and the perfect one has not yet been invented. For me, first, and foremost, a mod needs to be quiet, thats the reason i,m fitting it. People fit the wrong mods to the wrong guns, then bitch when the unit fails or doesn,t live up to expectations. I,ve seen the alumnium A-tec fitted to target rifles, and upset owners when its burnt out in weeks. On a high rate of fire rifle, you want a steel mod, like the Utra. They are made for that. I think i,ve used virtually everything on the market, and sell most of it, with exceptions. I dont sell the wildcat, nor the new copy of it. The rep brought some into the shop a while ago, and proceeded to tell me it was the best thing since sliced bread.Quite obviously a man who had never made a mod. It weighed a ton, just like the wildcat. There are always one or two drawbacks to any mod, you just have to weigh up the differences, and what is important to you. |
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Moderators have always been a bit of a pet subject of mine. Different people require different things from a mod, and the perfect one has not yet been invented. For me, first, and foremost, a mod needs to be quiet, thats the reason i,m fitting it. People fit the wrong mods to the wrong guns, then bitch when the unit fails or doesn,t live up to expectations. I,ve seen the alumnium A-tec fitted to target rifles, and upset owners when its burnt out in weeks. On a high rate of fire rifle, you want a steel mod, like the Utra. They are made for that. I think i,ve used virtually everything on the market, and sell most of it, with exceptions. I dont sell the wildcat, nor the new copy of it. The rep brought some into the shop a while ago, and proceeded to tell me it was the best thing since sliced bread.Quite obviously a man who had never made a mod. It weighed a ton, just like the wildcat. There are always one or two drawbacks to any mod, you just have to weigh up the differences, and what is important to you. Good post. There are various user groups with widely different criteria for products ( MIL / LE, target shooters, hunters in different hunting types ) It is just proper customer service to find out what the customer is going to do with the suppressor and what weapon he is fitting it to. Regards! Tuukka Jokinen Ase Utra sound suppressors |
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Moderators have always been a bit of a pet subject of mine. Different people require different things from a mod, and the perfect one has not yet been invented. For me, first, and foremost, a mod needs to be quiet, thats the reason i,m fitting it. People fit the wrong mods to the wrong guns, then bitch when the unit fails or doesn,t live up to expectations. I,ve seen the alumnium A-tec fitted to target rifles, and upset owners when its burnt out in weeks. On a high rate of fire rifle, you want a steel mod, like the Utra. They are made for that. I think i,ve used virtually everything on the market, and sell most of it, with exceptions. I dont sell the wildcat, nor the new copy of it. The rep brought some into the shop a while ago, and proceeded to tell me it was the best thing since sliced bread.Quite obviously a man who had never made a mod. It weighed a ton, just like the wildcat. There are always one or two drawbacks to any mod, you just have to weigh up the differences, and what is important to you. Ah yes, the Wildcat. The owner and his son are legendary
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Moderators have always been a bit of a pet subject of mine. Different people require different things from a mod, and the perfect one has not yet been invented. For me, first, and foremost, a mod needs to be quiet, thats the reason i,m fitting it. People fit the wrong mods to the wrong guns, then bitch when the unit fails or doesn,t live up to expectations. I,ve seen the alumnium A-tec fitted to target rifles, and upset owners when its burnt out in weeks. On a high rate of fire rifle, you want a steel mod, like the Utra. They are made for that. I think i,ve used virtually everything on the market, and sell most of it, with exceptions. I dont sell the wildcat, nor the new copy of it. The rep brought some into the shop a while ago, and proceeded to tell me it was the best thing since sliced bread.Quite obviously a man who had never made a mod. It weighed a ton, just like the wildcat. There are always one or two drawbacks to any mod, you just have to weigh up the differences, and what is important to you. Ah yes, the Wildcat. The owner and his son are legendary
I've only had one dealing with Mr Banner. As you all know I never slag of other dealers but regarding payment......getting blood out of a stone would be easier......and less painful 
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