Posted: 6/8/2015 1:08:29 AM EDT
| EDIT: After speaking with several people who have stated I should remove this as I have no proof, I will go ahead and do so. I admit I may have jumped the gun from just seeing the post and should not have re-posted it without confirmation. Apologies to Ozark Ordnance. |
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I see a Glock in the picture with an aftermarket barrel that obviously had a major malfunction. Was there a suppressor involved since the aftermarket barrel is threaded? I also see several different calibers of cartridge cases around the Glock. What I don't see in the picture is a ammunition box with the manufacturer's name, caliber, lot number, etc...
ETA: Is that a SilencerCo Osprey silencer at the top of the picture? |
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This is not OP's first thread about Ozark Ordnance. Seems you have a bone to pick with them. Owner's remarks (tdowell) are also in that thread. |
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Quoted: Interesting This is not OP's first thread about Ozark Ordnance. Seems you have a bone to pick with them. Owner's remarks (tdowell) are also in that thread. Somebody's got a hard on for Ozark?  |
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Interesting This is not OP's first thread about Ozark Ordnance. Seems you have a bone to pick with them. Owner's remarks (tdowell) are also in that thread. Yeah, I think that guy trolls to find bad stuff and post it where he can, he's made false accusations in the past, not surprised he's promoting them again. |
| EDIT: After speaking with several people who have stated I should remove this as I have no proof, I will go ahead and do so. I admit I may have jumped the gun from just seeing the post and should not have re-posted it without confirmation. Apologies to Ozark Ordnance. |
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I browse Reddit quite a bit, and I have friends who have had issues with your ammo, so I will post when I see people reporting MAJOR issues with your ammunition. However, it seems like your typical tactic of deflect and discredit are in full effect. So you're denying this was your ammunition that did this? Quoted:
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Interesting This is not OP's first thread about Ozark Ordnance. Seems you have a bone to pick with them. Owner's remarks (tdowell) are also in that thread. Yeah, I think that guy trolls to find bad stuff and post it where he can, he's made false accusations in the past, not surprised he's promoting them again. I browse Reddit quite a bit, and I have friends who have had issues with your ammo, so I will post when I see people reporting MAJOR issues with your ammunition. However, it seems like your typical tactic of deflect and discredit are in full effect. So you're denying this was your ammunition that did this? I also have had some issues with the ammo-but we wont get into it. |
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Interesting This is not OP's first thread about Ozark Ordnance. Seems you have a bone to pick with them. Owner's remarks (tdowell) are also in that thread. Oddly enough, I remember that thread.... Yeah, someone is picking bones. |
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I thought that's just what happened with Glocks?
Seriously though, there are ton's of Glock KB out there, with tons of different ammo. I would think if the previous round were a squib the shooter would have known with a can on. The can makes a glock have a weird recoil and if the gas didn't hit the can, the piston likely wouldn't have cycled which wouldn't have allowed the gun to cycle. Not saying it couldn't be the ammo, but barrels/chambers do occasionally split. I guess S&W has a major problem with their .308 AR barrels splitting... |
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I browse Reddit quite a bit, and I have friends who have had issues with your ammo, so I will post when I see people reporting MAJOR issues with your ammunition. However, it seems like your typical tactic of deflect and discredit are in full effect. So you're denying this was your ammunition that did this? Quoted:
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Interesting This is not OP's first thread about Ozark Ordnance. Seems you have a bone to pick with them. Owner's remarks (tdowell) are also in that thread. Yeah, I think that guy trolls to find bad stuff and post it where he can, he's made false accusations in the past, not surprised he's promoting them again. I browse Reddit quite a bit, and I have friends who have had issues with your ammo, so I will post when I see people reporting MAJOR issues with your ammunition. However, it seems like your typical tactic of deflect and discredit are in full effect. So you're denying this was your ammunition that did this? Can you prove what ammo was in the pistol when it happened? |
| I don't think I would repost shit I see on any page unless I seen it for myself. In fact you really open yourself up for some liability if you do post on a public forum. If the manufacture decided to sur you it would be your responsibility to prove the info was in fact true or your ass is gonna pay up..Think about it |
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LOL...and why is that? Just picked up another g27 gen3 tonight, 2 mags, n/s for $350. Quoted:
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.40 S&W + Glock = BAD combination That is one of the reasons I switched back to a Glock 17 9mm. LOL...and why is that? Just picked up another g27 gen3 tonight, 2 mags, n/s for $350. WAY too many reports of .40 cal. Glock kabooms! |
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LOL...and why is that? Just picked up another g27 gen3 tonight, 2 mags, n/s for $350. Quoted:
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.40 S&W + Glock = BAD combination That is one of the reasons I switched back to a Glock 17 9mm. LOL...and why is that? Just picked up another g27 gen3 tonight, 2 mags, n/s for $350. Good deal...but it is well known that 40 Glocks go boom more often. It's not likely to ever happen using new factory ammo though. Check out Glocktalk forums and you will see a pattern... |
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Good deal...but it is well known that 40 Glocks go boom more often. It's not likely to ever happen using new factory ammo though. Check out Glocktalk forums and you will see a pattern... Quoted:
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.40 S&W + Glock = BAD combination That is one of the reasons I switched back to a Glock 17 9mm. LOL...and why is that? Just picked up another g27 gen3 tonight, 2 mags, n/s for $350. Good deal...but it is well known that 40 Glocks go boom more often. It's not likely to ever happen using new factory ammo though. Check out Glocktalk forums and you will see a pattern... Gen 3's and 4's are much, much better about it. Gen 2's had significantly less chamber support near the feed ramp, and ruptured cases blew them up quite often. |
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Gen 3's and 4's are much, much better about it. Gen 2's had significantly less chamber support near the feed ramp, and ruptured cases blew them up quite often. Quoted:
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.40 S&W + Glock = BAD combination That is one of the reasons I switched back to a Glock 17 9mm. LOL...and why is that? Just picked up another g27 gen3 tonight, 2 mags, n/s for $350. Good deal...but it is well known that 40 Glocks go boom more often. It's not likely to ever happen using new factory ammo though. Check out Glocktalk forums and you will see a pattern... Gen 3's and 4's are much, much better about it. Gen 2's had significantly less chamber support near the feed ramp, and ruptured cases blew them up quite often. Sorry, I still don't trust Glock .40's. To be honest I'm no longer a fan of the caliber PERIOD! In a "standard" caliber 9mm does nicely, but I REALLY like the FN FsN 5.7x28 It weighs less loaded with 21 rounds than a Glock 17 does empty. After the Ft. Hood incident it's pretty hard to claim it doesn't do its job. Almost ZERO recoil, and 100 yard reach. |
| as for OZ, I have bought and shot some of their ammo. the 5.56 stuff seemed fine. also got 300 BO from them (both firsts and seconds). the firsts were good and supersonic seconds were good. some of the second subs started to crack (ie they tried to go super) when fired but accuracy, function, etc were fine. never called OZ about because they were seconds and also there was no fuction/safety issue with them. |
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Want BAD ammo?
Shoot 5.7x28 FN SS197 or Federal American Eagle. They are both loaded by Fiocchi in Ozark, MO. Jay from Elite Ammunition has posted videos of tearing down the SS197, and the powder charges are all over the place. Bad news on a TINY 50,000 psi cartridge. |
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Want BAD ammo? Shoot 5.7x28 FN SS197 or Federal American Eagle. They are both loaded by Fiocchi in Ozark, MO. Jay from Elite Ammunition has posted videos of tearing down the SS197, and the powder charges are all over the place. Bad news on a TINY 50,000 psi cartridge. Wel... That really sucks, I have about 3000 rounds of the FN. I'll have to tear into it and see what kind of results I get. Haven't shot any of it yet, got the FN57 and it went straight to the safe and I haven't touched it since. |
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Wel... That really sucks, I have about 3000 rounds of the FN. I'll have to tear into it and see what kind of results I get. Haven't shot any of it yet, got the FN57 and it went straight to the safe and I haven't touched it since. Quoted:
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Want BAD ammo? Shoot 5.7x28 FN SS197 or Federal American Eagle. They are both loaded by Fiocchi in Ozark, MO. Jay from Elite Ammunition has posted videos of tearing down the SS197, and the powder charges are all over the place. Bad news on a TINY 50,000 psi cartridge. Wel... That really sucks, I have about 3000 rounds of the FN. I'll have to tear into it and see what kind of results I get. Haven't shot any of it yet, got the FN57 and it went straight to the safe and I haven't touched it since. Best ammo IMHO is the FN SS198, it's L.E. Ammo (readily available) and its manufactured in Belgium by FN. |
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OP I would get all your facts next time before playing internet police!! If I owned Ozark id be on your ass. Chad, first - Libel laws do not apply to reporting on what is said. It applies to making false claims. I am not the individual who made the claims, I merely reported / re-posted the links to the picture / threads in question. Therefor, libel or defamation would not apply. Second, yes, everyone knows what a big tough guy you are. You don't need to reference it in every post. |
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Quoted: Want BAD ammo? Shoot 5.7x28 FN SS197 or Federal American Eagle. They are both loaded by Fiocchi in Ozark, MO. Jay from Elite Ammunition has posted videos of tearing down the SS197, and the powder charges are all over the place. Bad news on a TINY 50,000 psi cartridge.  |
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OP I would get all your facts next time before playing internet police!! If I owned Ozark id be on your ass. No you wouldn't. Libel/defamation cases are nearly impossible to win. Trying to sue OP for a negative review would cost more than it would net. But speaking of marketing strategies...When companies or their friends go around threatening lawsuits against people who post negative reviews, it tends to reflect poorly on that company. Generally, more so than the initial negative review itself. |
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Want BAD ammo? Shoot 5.7x28 FN SS197 or Federal American Eagle. They are both loaded by Fiocchi in Ozark, MO. Jay from Elite Ammunition has posted videos of tearing down the SS197, and the powder charges are all over the place. Bad news on a TINY 50,000 psi cartridge. Careful, don't want Fiocchi to sue you now... 
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Careful, don't want Fiocchi to sue you now...
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Want BAD ammo? Shoot 5.7x28 FN SS197 or Federal American Eagle. They are both loaded by Fiocchi in Ozark, MO. Jay from Elite Ammunition has posted videos of tearing down the SS197, and the powder charges are all over the place. Bad news on a TINY 50,000 psi cartridge. Careful, don't want Fiocchi to sue you now...
Maybe Chad could report him to Fiocchi? |
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Quoted: Sorry, I still don't trust Glock .40's. To be honest I'm no longer a fan of the caliber PERIOD! In a "standard" caliber 9mm does nicely, but I REALLY like the FN FsN 5.7x28 It weighs less loaded with 21 rounds than a Glock 17 does empty. After the Ft. Hood incident it's pretty hard to claim it doesn't do its job. Almost ZERO recoil, and 100 yard reach. If you look around you'll most likely find that there is stupid internet "Kaboom" story for every firearm out there.....  http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/02/27/fn-five-seven-kaboom/ |
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Chad, first - Libel laws do not apply to reporting on what is said. It applies to making false claims. I am not the individual who made the claims, I merely reported / re-posted the links to the picture / threads in question. Therefor, libel or defamation would not apply. Second, yes, everyone knows what a big tough guy you are. You don't need to reference it in every post. Quoted:
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OP I would get all your facts next time before playing internet police!! If I owned Ozark id be on your ass. Chad, first - Libel laws do not apply to reporting on what is said. It applies to making false claims. I am not the individual who made the claims, I merely reported / re-posted the links to the picture / threads in question. Therefor, libel or defamation would not apply. Second, yes, everyone knows what a big tough guy you are. You don't need to reference it in every post. I think anyone would go after someone who was bashing their business that they have spent loads of money on. To me it would be worth losing money to cost the negative person money.. |
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Compared to being up their ass. Oh yes. I went there.
I still love ya, Chad. 
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OP I would get all your facts next time before playing internet police!! If I owned Ozark id be on your ass. Oh yes. I went there.
I still love ya, Chad.
Your trash is on my list!! :-) |
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I think anyone would go after someone who was bashing their business that they have spent loads of money on. To me it would be worth losing money to cost the negative person money.. Quoted:
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OP I would get all your facts next time before playing internet police!! If I owned Ozark id be on your ass. Chad, first - Libel laws do not apply to reporting on what is said. It applies to making false claims. I am not the individual who made the claims, I merely reported / re-posted the links to the picture / threads in question. Therefor, libel or defamation would not apply. Second, yes, everyone knows what a big tough guy you are. You don't need to reference it in every post. I think anyone would go after someone who was bashing their business that they have spent loads of money on. To me it would be worth losing money to cost the negative person money.. As a business owner, I can say nah. You can keep 99% of people happy. The other 1% will never be happy and will go out of their way to make you unhappy if you let them. Not worth my time to address the 1%. |
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As a business owner, I can say nah. You can keep 99% of people happy. The other 1% will never be happy and will go out of their way to make you unhappy if you let them. Not worth my time to address the 1%. Quoted:
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OP I would get all your facts next time before playing internet police!! If I owned Ozark id be on your ass. Chad, first - Libel laws do not apply to reporting on what is said. It applies to making false claims. I am not the individual who made the claims, I merely reported / re-posted the links to the picture / threads in question. Therefor, libel or defamation would not apply. Second, yes, everyone knows what a big tough guy you are. You don't need to reference it in every post. I think anyone would go after someone who was bashing their business that they have spent loads of money on. To me it would be worth losing money to cost the negative person money.. As a business owner, I can say nah. You can keep 99% of people happy. The other 1% will never be happy and will go out of their way to make you unhappy if you let them. Not worth my time to address the 1%. What business are you in? |
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If you look around you'll most likely find that there is stupid internet "Kaboom" story for every firearm out there.....
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/02/27/fn-five-seven-kaboom/ Quoted:
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Sorry, I still don't trust Glock .40's. To be honest I'm no longer a fan of the caliber PERIOD! In a "standard" caliber 9mm does nicely, but I REALLY like the FN FsN 5.7x28 It weighs less loaded with 21 rounds than a Glock 17 does empty. After the Ft. Hood incident it's pretty hard to claim it doesn't do its job. Almost ZERO recoil, and 100 yard reach. If you look around you'll most likely find that there is stupid internet "Kaboom" story for every firearm out there.....
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/02/27/fn-five-seven-kaboom/ Yeah, there has been a LOT of discussion of FN 5.7's kabooming. The suggestion is always related to the weapon firing before it's fully in battery. A member of the FN Forum PROVED that's total bullshit by taking precise measurements of when the design allows the hammer to strike the firing pin (yes it's a single action hammer design) The conclusion that most come to is either one of the Fiocchi loads or a reload. When you have a case as small as the 5.7X28 round, one tenth of a grain too much = KABOOM! The round operates at 50,000 psi + |
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So a 40 s&w at 35,000 psi is to dangerous but a 50,000 psi round where an extra tenth of a grain can supposedly "kaboom" your fancy pistol is the cat's ass?
Was just about to say that... Imagine if FN sold even 1% of the number of .40 caliber Glocks sold. Glock kaboom wouldn't be the meme... Five seven kaboom would.
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So a 40 s&w at 35,000 psi is to dangerous but a 50,000 psi round where an extra tenth of a grain can supposedly "kaboom" your fancy pistol is the cat's ass?
IF the round is PROPERLY loaded it's safe! Keep,in mind a MUCH smaller case volume vs the .40 S&W, a considerably higher pressure, and the fact that Fiocchi is DAMN SLOPPY on their QA/QC on this round. I'm getting everything I need together to start loading the 5.7X28. It will be on a SINGLE STAGE press and I will weigh every charge. It a great round, just it's not very forgiving on screw ups. There have been NO reports of problems with the round loaded by FN in Belgium! (SS198, SS195, etc) |
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Quoted: Was just about to say that... Imagine if FN sold even 1% of the number of .40 caliber Glocks sold. Glock kaboom wouldn't be the meme... Five seven kaboom would. Quoted: Quoted: So a 40 s&w at 35,000 psi is to dangerous but a 50,000 psi round where an extra tenth of a grain can supposedly "kaboom" your fancy pistol is the cat's ass? Was just about to say that... Imagine if FN sold even 1% of the number of .40 caliber Glocks sold. Glock kaboom wouldn't be the meme... Five seven kaboom would. Some people just can't compute that. |