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7/15/2010 6:32:04 AM EDT
I broke a tooth off chewing on a pork rib and had to see the dentist.  He told me I was about to abscess so he sent me to the endodontist. I had it done this morning under laughing gas.
I wasn't laughing when they told what it would cost.
There went $1250 down the drain. And the crown is gonna run another $900.
I've got dental insurance but I'll still be out $500 or more on a $2200+ bill.
Damn, dentists and doctors should be rich with the prices they charge.
7/15/2010 8:15:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Damn man I would have hooked you up for $40. Crown and all. Corse you have to sign a waver and all but we can do that after the gas.
7/15/2010 8:22:15 AM EDT
[#2]
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Damn man I would have hooked you up for $40. Crown and all. Corse you have to sign a waver and all but we can do that after the gas.


7/15/2010 9:14:49 AM EDT
[#3]
so are you saying you can't wait for this socialized medicine program to begin?
7/15/2010 10:03:20 AM EDT
[#4]
I apparently had a busted tooth for sometime.

Tooth had been a bit tender for a year or so, but looked fine, wasn't painful or anything. A day or so after father's day...my tooth really got to hurting!

I went to the dentist, who discovered the tooth was cracked front to back. He ground it down and installed a temporary crown. Fixed the pain...and cost me $20.....for an afternoon in the chair...$20

No dental insurance...but still just $20...the permanant crown will cost about $800!...I may just live with the temp crown.
7/15/2010 10:08:33 AM EDT
[#5]
I had a cannal done back in 04, the naval tooth doc told me I should get it crowned... still haven't gotten one. I probably should get one eventually.
7/15/2010 11:35:23 AM EDT
[#6]
I had one done once. That was about 6 years ago, last year that same tooth cracked and shed it's crown. The doc said it needed yanked, so all that money and suffering was wasted. Hope yours lasts longer.
7/15/2010 11:41:03 AM EDT
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I had one done once. That was about 6 years ago, last year that same tooth cracked and shed it's crown. The doc said it needed yanked, so all that money and suffering was wasted. Hope yours lasts longer.


Well, mine probably got cracked when I was chewing rocks and farting dust or chewing on nails and spitting rust.
I'm an old man now and can't do that stuff anymore like I did in my early 50s.
Now I'm in my later 50s and everything seems to be going to sh*t!
As far as socialized medicine, I think two ways about that.
It's friggin' ridiculous what they shoved down our throats.
It doesn't do a damn thing to limit costs, just what insurance companies will have to pay out.
They'll still raise rates anytime they want and we'll pay out our arses for it.
And on the other hand, they do need to do something to limit costs and not make more money for the insurance and drug companies.
7/15/2010 3:26:53 PM EDT
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I broke a tooth off chewing on a pork rib and had to see the dentist.  He told me I was about to abscess so he sent me to the endodontist. I had it done this morning under laughing gas.
I wasn't laughing when they told what it would cost.
There went $1250 down the drain. And the crown is gonna run another $900.
I've got dental insurance but I'll still be out $500 or more on a $2200+ bill.
Damn, dentists and doctors should be rich with the prices they charge.


Or, for $150-$200 cash you could have had it extracted.
7/15/2010 3:55:06 PM EDT
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Or, for $150-$200 cash you could have had it extracted.


But the undertaker wouldn't make any money when he wired my mouth shut to bury me if I didn't have gold in my mouth!

7/15/2010 7:41:47 PM EDT
[#10]
I had a root canal done today, cost me about half what they charged you, I don't have any dental insurance so this was a cash transaction.



Why in the heck would they send you somewhere else to get that done?  Over the years I've had several root canals and they never sent me somewhere else, even when I did have dental insurance.
7/15/2010 7:44:23 PM EDT
[#11]
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I had a cannal done back in 04, the naval tooth doc told me I should get it crowned... still haven't gotten one. I probably should get one eventually.


Should have had it done while you were still in, its free there.
7/15/2010 7:44:40 PM EDT
[#12]
My dentist doesn't do root canals. The only one I ever had done before (done by a dentist) was about 30 years ago and it was only $200 and the crown $150..
Times sure change.
7/16/2010 4:16:51 AM EDT
[#13]
I paid on dental insurance for a year before they would pay for a crown.  Still gonna cost me 500 bucks.  I can't believe it costs 1500 or more to get this done.
7/16/2010 6:01:56 AM EDT
[#14]
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I paid on dental insurance for a year before they would pay for a crown.  Still gonna cost me 500 bucks.  I can't believe it costs 1500 or more to get this done.


That's for gas, root canal, and a gold crown. It's more like $2200.
I've got implants and a bridge in the front of my mouth. In 2000 I got hit in mouth with a tool while working on a transformer. It broke out porcelain in the bridge. They took it out and repaired the porcelain for $250.
In 2009 I passed out while playing with a Rottweiler from low blood pressure (medication issues after having my chest cracked) and broke out porcelain again, almost exactly the same as before.
It cost $1100 that time. It was the same cost to repair that 8 tooth appliance as it cost to make it when I had the implants put in in 1997.
Their explanation for the high cost was that precious metals had gone up. I asked them when porcelain became precious. The result was the dentist didn't charge me for removing and replacing the bridge but he did change his dental lab after that.
7/16/2010 6:47:35 AM EDT
[#15]
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I had a cannal done back in 04, the naval tooth doc told me I should get it crowned... still haven't gotten one. I probably should get one eventually.


Should have had it done while you were still in, its free there.


I still get my care on the VAs dime, I could probably sweet talk them into gettin me one
7/19/2010 7:27:08 PM EDT
[#16]
What happened to our member of this forum who was going to dental school? Lets hit him up for a ARFCOM discount.



7/21/2010 7:36:52 PM EDT
[#17]
That root canal cost that much because you went to a specialist.  Some dentists are kind of scared to do molar root canals and surgical extractions.  I'd of been all over that root canal for I'd say $700 or so.  The crown price is about right it just depends on the insurance.
7/21/2010 7:56:29 PM EDT
[#18]
I work for a corporation that accepts all insurance.  There isn't hardly anyone around here that takes sooner care.  We do.  I actually love doing full mouth extractions.  All sooner care pays for when it comes to adults is extractions, alveoplasty, tori removal etc.  This means it covers pulling teeth and denture surgery procedures.  Well in the Texoma area lots of people that need that!!  I pulled probably 40 teeth today and did 8 quadrants of alveoplasty.  I did other stuff to but sooner care was 90% of my production today.  Nothing makes my day more than some one with 20-30 rotten teeth on sooner care comes in and wants them all out.  If they have tori I get to grind that bone off for extra!! I get to help extremely undeserved people and rake in money at the same time. It's a win win.  See not all dentists are greedy bastards.
7/22/2010 6:14:37 AM EDT
[#19]
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I work for a corporation that accepts all insurance.  There isn't hardly anyone around here that takes sooner care.  We do.  I actually love doing full mouth extractions.  All sooner care pays for when it comes to adults is extractions, alveoplasty, tori removal etc.  This means it covers pulling teeth and denture surgery procedures.  Well in the Texoma area lots of people that need that!!  I pulled probably 40 teeth today and did 8 quadrants of alveoplasty.  I did other stuff to but sooner care was 90% of my production today.  Nothing makes my day more than some one with 20-30 rotten teeth on sooner care comes in and wants them all out.  If they have tori I get to grind that bone off for extra!! I get to help extremely undeserved people and rake in money at the same time. It's a win win.  See not all dentists are greedy bastards.


I'm glad you enjoy your work

Not for me though.
7/22/2010 6:24:34 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
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I work for a corporation that accepts all insurance.  There isn't hardly anyone around here that takes sooner care.  We do.  I actually love doing full mouth extractions.  All sooner care pays for when it comes to adults is extractions, alveoplasty, tori removal etc.  This means it covers pulling teeth and denture surgery procedures.  Well in the Texoma area lots of people that need that!!  I pulled probably 40 teeth today and did 8 quadrants of alveoplasty.  I did other stuff to but sooner care was 90% of my production today.  Nothing makes my day more than some one with 20-30 rotten teeth on sooner care comes in and wants them all out.  If they have tori I get to grind that bone off for extra!! I get to help extremely undeserved people and rake in money at the same time. It's a win win.  See not all dentists are greedy bastards.


I'm glad you enjoy your work

Not for me though.


It's not so bad.  When I do messy work like full mouth extractions I'm wearing a surgical gown and a face shield.  The shield usually has tooth fragments and blood splatter on it by the end.  I can easily make (I'm talking my cut not the procedure cost) $1000 in an a couple of hours yanking teeth and grinding the bone down.  No lab fees, no real chance for failure/refund.  Just honest easy money.

7/22/2010 6:57:51 AM EDT
[#21]
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I work for a corporation that accepts all insurance.  There isn't hardly anyone around here that takes sooner care.  We do.  I actually love doing full mouth extractions.  All sooner care pays for when it comes to adults is extractions, alveoplasty, tori removal etc.  This means it covers pulling teeth and denture surgery procedures.  Well in the Texoma area lots of people that need that!!  I pulled probably 40 teeth today and did 8 quadrants of alveoplasty.  I did other stuff to but sooner care was 90% of my production today.  Nothing makes my day more than some one with 20-30 rotten teeth on sooner care comes in and wants them all out.  If they have tori I get to grind that bone off for extra!! I get to help extremely undeserved people and rake in money at the same time. It's a win win.  See not all dentists are greedy bastards.


I'm glad you enjoy your work

Not for me though.


It's not so bad.  When I do messy work like full mouth extractions I'm wearing a surgical gown and a face shield.  The shield usually has tooth fragments and blood splatter on it by the end.  I can easily make (I'm talking my cut not the procedure cost) $1000 in an a couple of hours yanking teeth and grinding the bone down.  No lab fees, no real chance for failure/refund.  Just honest easy money.



I used to run around with a BOP officer in El Reno. He had almost the same exact set of implants in his mouth as I do. (Same cause - a boot! )
He got his in 1979 or so and the cost was $700 or so as best I remember him saying.
My implants got put in 1997 (about 25 years after I received the boot treatment) and the cost was $8K just for the 5 implants. (The appliance was $1100.) I had bone loss so they had to open the gums and put in ground up bone and seal it with medical grade Gore-tex so the expense was a bit more. Quite a procedure over several months. Without the built up bone in the jaw, the cost would have been around $5.5K.
The same thing now would cost $2k or so for each implant plus the cost of the appliance.
Dental work is really HIGH.
7/22/2010 7:44:24 AM EDT
[#22]
Maybe so.  It took 9 years of school for me to get here though.  The last 4 years having a job was pretty much out of the question and I pretty much lost all contact with all of my friends do to basically zero free time.  So it is a lot of sacrifice.  I pay in excess to $2500 a month towards student loans and I owe in excess of $250k in student loans.  That plus the cost of dental materials is VERY high.  I can tell you the amount you paid for your implants back in the day wouldn't even cover half of the lab bill today.  I make about 30% of what procedures cost.
7/22/2010 8:02:03 AM EDT
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Maybe so.  It took 9 years of school for me to get here though.  The last 4 years having a job is pretty much out of the question and I pretty much lost all contact with all of my friends do to basically zero free time.  So it is a lot of sacrifice.  I pay in excess to $2500 a month towards student loans and I owe in excess of $250k in student loans.  That plus the cost of dental materials is VERY high.  I can tell you the amount you paid for your implants back in the day wouldn't even cover half of the lab bill today.  I make about 30% of what procedures cost.


I have no doubt you have one hell of a student loan debt. I have a god son that graduated from OU med school a year ago last May. He's doing his surgical residency in Lubbock. He's got one hell of a bill to pay to even with his dad almost killing himself financially to get him through med school.

ETA My orthopod (he knows me VERY well ) and I have had some good discussions about health costs. Some of the high medical costs are unnecessary but it's not the medical professionals causing it.
I don't know what the end result is gonna be, but health costs are gonna help bankrupt this country, especially after we start paying for Obamacare.
7/22/2010 9:36:58 AM EDT
[#24]
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I work for a corporation that accepts all insurance.  There isn't hardly anyone around here that takes sooner care.  We do.  I actually love doing full mouth extractions.  All sooner care pays for when it comes to adults is extractions, alveoplasty, tori removal etc.  This means it covers pulling teeth and denture surgery procedures.  Well in the Texoma area lots of people that need that!!  I pulled probably 40 teeth today and did 8 quadrants of alveoplasty.  I did other stuff to but sooner care was 90% of my production today.  Nothing makes my day more than some one with 20-30 rotten teeth on sooner care comes in and wants them all out.  If they have tori I get to grind that bone off for extra!! I get to help extremely undeserved people and rake in money at the same time. It's a win win.  See not all dentists are greedy bastards.


I'm glad you enjoy your work

Not for me though.


It's not so bad.  When I do messy work like full mouth extractions I'm wearing a surgical gown and a face shield.  The shield usually has tooth fragments and blood splatter on it by the end.  I can easily make (I'm talking my cut not the procedure cost) $1000 in an a couple of hours yanking teeth and grinding the bone down.  No lab fees, no real chance for failure/refund.  Just honest easy money.



Ah geez man. I don't want to know how the sausage is made!

Some things, it's best not to know.
7/22/2010 9:47:50 AM EDT
[#25]
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I work for a corporation that accepts all insurance.  There isn't hardly anyone around here that takes sooner care.  We do.  I actually love doing full mouth extractions.  All sooner care pays for when it comes to adults is extractions, alveoplasty, tori removal etc.  This means it covers pulling teeth and denture surgery procedures.  Well in the Texoma area lots of people that need that!!  I pulled probably 40 teeth today and did 8 quadrants of alveoplasty.  I did other stuff to but sooner care was 90% of my production today.  Nothing makes my day more than some one with 20-30 rotten teeth on sooner care comes in and wants them all out.  If they have tori I get to grind that bone off for extra!! I get to help extremely undeserved people and rake in money at the same time. It's a win win.  See not all dentists are greedy bastards.


I'm glad you enjoy your work

Not for me though.


It's not so bad.  When I do messy work like full mouth extractions I'm wearing a surgical gown and a face shield.  The shield usually has tooth fragments and blood splatter on it by the end.  I can easily make (I'm talking my cut not the procedure cost) $1000 in an a couple of hours yanking teeth and grinding the bone down.  No lab fees, no real chance for failure/refund.  Just honest easy money.



Ah geez man. I don't want to know how the sausage is made!

Some things, it's best not to know.


sausage