[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Run Illegals Run.... Changed (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 5/13/2011 12:30:27 PM EDT
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Our Govenor just signed into law a Arizone type policy to check immigration status of individuals that commit a crime. It is about freaking time. I would start over in Gwinnett, hint, hint...
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/governor-signs-arizona-style-944703.html Gov. Nathan Deal on Friday signed one of the nation’s toughest immigration enforcement measures into law amid threats of court challenges and economic boycotts targeting Georgia.
Partly patterned after a stringent law Arizona enacted last year, Georgia’s House Bill 87 empowers police to investigate the immigration status of certain suspects. The measure also sets new hiring requirements for employers and penalizes people who transport or harbor illegal immigrants here. Deal, who campaigned for governor last year on bringing an Arizona-style law to Georgia, called his signature on HB 87 an historic moment. "While I believe immigration is an issue that... should be addressed at the federal level," he told reporters, "this legislation I believe is a responsible step forward in the absence of federal action." Deal and other supporters of HB 87 have hailed it as a victory for taxpayers who have borne the cost of illegal immigration in Georgia. A recent estimate by the Pew Hispanic Center puts the number of illegal immigrants in Georgia at 425,000, the seventh-highest among the states. Those illegal immigrants, supporters of HB 87 say, are taking jobs from state residents and burdening Georgia’s public schools, hospitals and jails. Local opponents of the measure said they have been working with some national organizations in drafting a lawsuit to challenge the measure in Atlanta's federal district court, arguing Georgia is overstepping its bounds. “We look forward to stopping this unconstitutional law from ever taking effect,” Charles Kuck, an Atlanta-area immigration attorney and past president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, said Friday before Deal signed the bill. Kuck and other opponents are hoping the federal Justice Department will join the fight and sue to block Georgia’s law as it has in Arizona. A Justice Department spokeswoman said Friday she had no comment. Last year, a federal judge put some of the most controversial parts of Arizona’s measure on hold after the Obama administration argued they were pre-empted by federal law. A federal appeals court recently upheld that judge’s decision. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer announced Monday she is appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court. President Barack Obama waded into the debate over illegal immigration in Georgia in a televised interview last month, calling HB 87 a “mistake.” “We can't have 50 different immigration laws around the country,” the president said. “Arizona tried this, and a federal court already struck them down." Deal expressed confidence Friday, saying Georgia's legislation "went through several iterations. Thanks to the diligence and hard work of the General Assembly I believe the final product avoids many of the pitfalls that have been alleged to exist in Arizona's legislation." Many other states have considered adopting an Arizona-type law. But Utah is the only other state to do so. On Tuesday, a federal judge halted that law, citing how it is similar to Arizona’s Senate Bill 1070. Georgia’s measure, meanwhile, has drawn stiff opposition from the state’s agricultural, landscaping, restaurant and tourism industries in recent weeks. These groups fear the law will damage the state’s economy by scaring away migrant workers and conventioneers. For example, the Atlanta Convention & Visitors Bureau went on record last month against the law over concerns that it could hurt the region's $10 billion tourism industry. One group –– the U.S. Human Rights Network –– has already announced it will cancel plans to hold its annual conference in Atlanta because of HB 87. Opponents of the measure are seeking to organize more such boycotts like those Arizona has experienced since it mounted its crackdown on illegal immigration. HB 87's sponsor –– Republican Rep. Matt Ramsey of Peachtree City –– addressed concerns from Georgia's business sectors Friday after Deal signed the bill. "To the extent that there is concern out there in the business community, just know we understand how important business is to our state," Ramsey said. "Georgia is going to continue to be a business-friendly state. HB 87, though, represents our responsibility to watch the taxpayers' bottom line just as the business community vigilantly guards their bottom line." Proponents of HB 87 say its most important feature is the one that targets the hiring of illegal immigrants. Many immigrants illegally enter the country to find work here. Under Georgia’s law, many employers will be required to start using a federal program called E-Verify to confirm their newly hired employees are eligible to work in the United States. Arizona has a similar E-Verify law on the books. A coalition of businesses and immigrant rights groups is suing to stop Arizona's law, arguing it is unconstitutional. The case is pending before the U.S. Supreme Court. About two dozen opponents of HB 87 gathered outside of Deal's office Friday, shouting "Shame on you" and "Undocumented and unafraid." Dozens more demonstrated outside the state Capitol, carrying signs proclaiming "R.I.P. Southern Hospitality" and "Immigrant Rights are Human Rights." “This action is not only an insult to the Latino community and other immigrants, but is also an exercise in cheap political pandering that will cost our state dearly,” said Adelina Nicholls, executive director of the Georgia Latino Alliance for Human Rights. Others praised Deal’s decision. “House Bill 87 is good legislation and will provide law enforcement in Georgia with another tool to perform their jobs in an effective and efficient manner,” Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren said. When provisions of Georgia's House Bill 87 will take effect: July 1 Local and state police will be empowered to arrest illegal immigrants and take them to state and federal jails. People who use fake identification to get a job in Georgia could face up to 15 years in prison and up to $250,000 in fines. People who –– while committing another crime –– knowingly transport or harbor illegal immigrants or encourage them to come to Georgia could face penalties. First-time offenders would face imprisonment for up to 12 months and up to $1,000 in fines. A seven-member Immigration Enforcement Review Board will be established to investigate complaints about local and state government officials not enforcing state immigration-related laws. Government officials who violate state laws requiring cities, counties and state government agencies to use E-Verify could face fines of up to $10,000 and removal from office. The state Agriculture Department will be directed to study the possibility of creating Georgia's own guest-worker program. Some Georgia employers have complained the federal government's guest-worker program is too burdensome and expensive. Jan. 1 State and local government agencies must start requiring people applying for public benefits –– such as food stamps, housing assistance and business licenses –– to provide at least one “secure and verifiable” document, which could be a state or federally issued form of identification. Consular matriculation cards will not be accepted. The state attorney general’s office is required to post a list of acceptable documents on its website by Aug. 1. Phased in: Georgia businesses will be required to use the federal E-Verify program to determine whether their new hires are eligible to work legally in the United States. Businesses with 500 or more employees must start complying with this provision on Jan. 1. Businesses with 100 or more employees but fewer than 500 must start complying with this provision on July 1, 2012. This requirement applies to businesses with between 11 and 99 employees starting July 1, 2013. Businesses with 10 or fewer employees are exempt. |
| I am just looking forward to the day where I don't have to see 30-40 illegals hanging out at a local gas station standing around and getting in the way. I know they are looking for work, but so are millions of Americans. So if you want to work here, do it legally and apply for citizenship and wait in line. |
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Nice racist title. It's not racist, it's stereotypical. It's a sweeping generalization to say all Mexicans are illegal. And a bigoted one at that. You have it backwards, it's a sweeping generalization to say all illegals are Mexicans. But yes, it is bigoted. I guess my sarcasm meter is broke today but who cares. |
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I doubt this will ever kick in. We had a similar thing in Kalifornia around 93 called Prop 187. Its still in court . What is going to be really interesting is watching
Gwinnet mugs if iit does kick in, We are going to be shocked at how many non-latinos are illegal. Hell one of my electricians is illegal as hell, We call him our "Redneck Wetback" Hes from England. |
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i'm glad it's signed, we need something like this. to the OP, the title is fine, ARFCOM is becoming the home of the offended and the enlightened  NO SHIT, on all accounts. I know a bunch of places LE can start hunting. Or would that be considered hunting in a baited field. 
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Good on Deal for signing the thing and good on the gentleman in PTree City for constructing the language. Maybe they will hit the employers and the ones who harbor these illegals hard, IMO it is just as bad to hire and hide these folks as it is for them to come over illegally. Something has got to give and the time to get it done is well past due. Run Rabbit, Run! |
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Sorry if my title offends you, or sounds racist or bigoted. Wasn't meant to be. However, I have little respect for people that work illegally in our country, and our state, that don't pay state and federal income taxes and cost our taxpayers a lot of money in unpaid medical bills and social services. That isn't fair to our citizens who have to make up the shortfalls with rampid medical cost increases every year.
I have nothing against any nationality, but I want them to be here legally and help pay their fair share of the tax burden since our country could really use it in these trying times. I never said all illegals were mexican, nor all mexicans were illegal. For you to take that from my title is a far stretch of word play at best. I work with people from Mexico that took the time, energy and money to become CITIZENS and get a green card to work legally. They are good friends of mine, and are model citizens. They don't steal peoples social security numbers, or forge IDs to get jobs. There is a huge difference. If we ever adopt a fair tax or flat tax (which may never happen) all this would be a moot point as everyone would pay taxes through consumption. But illegals do spend money on food and local services, but they don't pay social security, medicare, state and local taxes, nor federal. So they are getting an easy ride tax wise. |
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Run illegals....RUN! Ya know what? When I read the first few words of your post I felt this relaxing feeling settle in my bones. It's like....all that letter stuffing and email writing I did wasn't just on principal, it actually contributed to something. Man, I was just listening to Arizona's podcast about there's too. Now if we can just get the carry without permits we'll be all good, but I'm out of envelopes and stamps. ETA: Of all the people I know...do you know who hates illegal Mexicans and other migrants the most? The legal migrants, especially the Mexicans, who worked hard to do it right and continue to work hard to make a living here. |
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Well, every go ahead and get your yards cut, houses built, and roofs fixed now. I cut my own yard thank you very much. Well some people have a yard bigger than a car. I cut my grass and it's alot bigger than a car. When I get work done on my house, it's done my AMERICANS that are local tradesmen. Mike |
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"Run Mexicans Run... Hey WhiteTrash, not every Mexican living in Georgia is an illegal you doucenozzle. This moron needs a meeting with common fucking sense. You gonna tell my wife, son, newborn daughter, and adopted son to run back to where... California? Texas? Or how about Augusta, GA since my youngest was born here. God you people fucking kill me. You take a good bill and catch a case of the stupid which allows the PC police to come in and now say its a racist bill and we're all racists for supporting it. Nice job. ETA: I saw that double backing you did on that post. If you felt that way then you would of put it in your title or gone back and fixed it. Instead you put up what you felt was what you needed to say. Fine... just let me know how you feel about mixed-race couples and where my kids and wife should go back to exactly. |
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"Run Mexicans Run... Hey WhiteTrash, not every Mexican living in Georgia is an illegal you doucenozzle. This moron needs a meeting with common fucking sense. You gonna tell my wife, son, newborn daughter, and adopted son to run back to where... California? Texas? Or how about Augusta, GA since my youngest was born here. God you people fucking kill me. You take a good bill and catch a case of the stupid which allows the PC police to come in and now say its a racist bill and we're all racists for supporting it. Nice job. ETA: I saw that double backing you did on that post. If you felt that way then you would of put it in your title or gone back and fixed it. Instead you put up what you felt was what you needed to say. Fine... just let me know how you feel about mixed-race couples and where my kids and wife should go back to exactly. Good reply Sir, My wife is Mexican born to legal immigrants almost 38 years ago. My wife runs into dumb ass people all the time just because of the way she looks. She was once told to "go back to your country" so she replied, "go back to your trailer park!" 
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Nice racist title. It's not racist, it's stereotypical. It's a sweeping generalization to say all Mexicans are illegal. And a bigoted one at that. You have it backwards, it's a sweeping generalization to say all illegals are Mexicans. But yes, it is bigoted. lol!
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I was going to refrain from posting, but...
Random crap before my morning coffee and run (yes, i slept in late today)... I hate the problem we have with illegals in this country. Send them back. I agree the title of this thread is in bad taste and sounds racist. Not all Mexicans are illegals. Not all illegals are Mexicans. The Mexicans I know are hard working people just trying to make a living. I get why they come to this great country. Glad this bill was signed. It is NOT a racist bill. I say we all discuss this over cheese dip and Dos_XXX whatever it is called beer. Mark |
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Data, how does it work? The number of illegal immigrants in the United States has grown to as many as 12 million, and they now account for about one in every 20 workers, a new estimate says. The Pew Hispanic Center said Mexicans make up 56 percent of illegal immigrants. An additional 22 percent come from other Latin American countries, mainly in Central America. About 13 percent are from Asia, and Europe and Canada combine for 6 percent. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8G6U2ko8 Fact: The majority of illegals in the US are Mexican Georgia's Hispanic population doubled in the past ten years to more than 850,000 people Of those 850,000 The new census data show that the Hispanic population in Gwinnett County more than doubled, in round numbers from 64,000 in 2000, to 162,000 in 2010. Of those 162,000 Hispanics in Gwinnett County only 26,000 are registered to vote that's only 6.23% (you must be a US citizen in order to vote) In the 2008 election 71 percent of US Citizens were registered to vote http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-562.pdf There is no breakdown in the census of how many of the 850,000-plus Hispanics in Georgia who were counted are here illegally, but one could make a semi-educated guess based on the percentage of Hispanics in Georgia that are registered to vote and those who are not. http://www.galeo.org/story.php?story_id=0000007951 |
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Fact: The majority of illegals in the US are Mexican Georgia's Hispanic population doubled in the past ten years to more than 850,000 people Of those 850,000 The new census data show that the Hispanic population in Gwinnett County more than doubled, in round numbers from 64,000 in 2000, to 162,000 in 2010. Of those 162,000 Hispanics in Gwinnett County only 26,000 are registered to vote that's only 6.23% (you must be a US citizen in order to vote) And? Are you going to be one of this guys to tell blacks to go back to "their country" then state that's it's factually accurate that since most blacks came from slaves who were imported from African nations that it's ok to make a title that says "run, &$@@3:$, run"? No I don't think you would. It only makes sense most illegals come from Mexico, it doesn't take the Pew Center to figure that out. Yet you don't want just the Mexican illegals to go back home do you? I would hope that yall all would want the less than 2% who illegally enter as OTMs with names like "Sanchez" but dont speak a lick of Spanish to be arrested and deported along with the guys who probably built your house or trim you county's hedges. It's a good bill. Don't taint it with stupidity and a witch hunt going after the brown people with thick accents. I'm glad that my friends on the job in Savannah will have the ability to check citizenship status and catch people who are breaking the law. But the moment people, typically civilians, start generalizing and making bigoted statements like the title of this post you're going to give the ACLU the firepower they need to attack the law and have a federal court step in. |
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It's a good bill. Don't taint it with stupidity and a witch hunt going after the brown people with thick accents. I'm glad that my friends on the job in Savannah will have the ability to check citizenship status and catch people who are breaking the law. But the moment people, typically civilians, start generalizing and making bigoted statements like the title of this post you're going to give the ACLU the firepower they need to attack the law and have a federal court step in. +10000 |
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Quoted: That's where I worry. Good statement. Quoted: It's a good bill. Don't taint it with stupidity and a witch hunt going after the brown people with thick accents. I'm glad that my friends on the job in Savannah will have the ability to check citizenship status and catch people who are breaking the law. But the moment people, typically civilians, start generalizing and making bigoted statements like the title of this post you're going to give the ACLU the firepower they need to attack the law and have a federal court step in. +10000 |
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why is everyone so offended at the title if it said" run punk ass white boy", i would find that funny. of course not every mexican is illegal, but if they are they can take their anchor babies and go back, along with every middle eastern, scandanavian,russian,spanish, african, who ever. MOST of these people don't respect us or our nation. they came here because we cater to them and give them everything, at the expense of your and my families.
for you guys that have wives that are from other countries, i'd bet money that they are legal to be here. who cares if you guys have "mixed" kids, that's your families business. it just seems that "race" dicussions get so out of hand because people don't think, they talk with their emotions. i look at it this way, if my wife was born here and the current laws made her a citizen and her family was illegal, i would expect them to have to go. they broke the law sneaking into our nation, they are the ones at fault. i would feel for my wife being that is her flesh and blood, but they made the choice to come here uninvited. why does my family have to pay for people that don't belong here? you guys that are calling everyone white trash,racsits, do you want to pick up the financial slack for the rest of that don't want to pay for their housing, food, medical care, education? if i snuck into another country because i wanted to better my life, we should not expect that countries citizens pay for me or my family when i wasn't asked to be there. why should i go and bring my culture and expect them to know my language, etc.......... look at California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, all of the border states are bankrupt and in serious trouble, social programs are killing them. should we just say fuck it and make these douchebags citizens and hit the restart button. politicians on both sides are soft because they want the hispanic vote, so they pander to them. the reason that mexicans, hispanics are being called out is because thats whos marching in the streets protesting, the people we see bussed in to walmart on Sunday mornings(vidalia ga) the people at the hospital standing around. i understand that most people don't have to be around the problem, because their neighborhood has priced them out. what are you going to do when section 8 comes across the street and they start pissing in your front yard? for the record, if someone comes here the proper way, i'm cool with it. i just see my nation literally being crapped on because no one wants to address the issue and wants their votes. i commend the governors that have the foritude to sign such laws. it shows that they take their office seriously and had to make a hard choice. that's leadership, making unpopular descisions and leading the way. |
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Uh Daniel, the title doesn't say "Run illegals run". It flatly says "run Mexicans run"... Where's my 6 day old daughter going to run?
Now her mom, whom you met, is one of these dark skinned folk is gonna run where exactly? California? No she's grown quite fond of Georgia. |
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Uh Daniel, the title doesn't say "Run illegals run". It flatly says "run Mexicans run"... Where's my 6 day old daughter going to run? i think we are looking at it different, if your daughter is born here legally she should be welcome to the blessing of our nation. i just see the title of the thread as just that. i don't care if it say mexicians, french, cracker mother fuckers. it's a title, it's word, and i don't let words rule my emotions. i respect your point and honestly see your point. if i was you that would make me raise my eyebrows, but that's as far as it would go. for what it's worth, glad your daughter is here 
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why is everyone so offended at the title if it said" run punk ass white boy", i would find that funny. of course not every mexican is illegal....That's why the title "Run Mexicans Run" is not okay. It's not about feelings or emotions as you're saying....it's just straight incorrect. Exactly. I hate looking out and seeing illegals take essential safety net services and unskilled/low skilled jobs when Americans need those jobs. |
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Uh Daniel, the title doesn't say "Run illegals run". It flatly says "run Mexicans run"... Where's my 6 day old daughter going to run? i think we are looking at it different, if your daughter is born here legally she should be welcome to the blessing of our nation. i just see the title of the thread as just that. i don't care if it say mexicians, french, cracker mother fuckers. it's a title, it's word, and i don't let words rule my emotions. i respect your point and honestly see your point. if i was you that would make me raise my eyebrows, but that's as far as it would go. for what it's worth, glad your daughter is here If you see my point then you see why the title is offensive and just factually stupid/ incorrect. I worked on one case in Hawaii where a legal Arab immigrant dimed out an illegal one. Was the best conversation/interview I had with someone about their loyalty to this country. The illegal was deported and sent back to Egypt. The legal one went on to train Soldiers deploying to Iraq and provided a valuable service to the defense of our country |
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Quoted: That's backwards from what we're going for.... Quoted: Quoted: why is everyone so offended at the title if it said" run punk ass white boy", i would find that funny. of course not every mexican is illegal....That's why the title "Run Mexicans Run" is not okay. It's not about feelings or emotions as you're saying....it's just straight incorrect. so you would be cool if all other nations were added to the title, i doubt it. you will find a position to argue with no matter what The statement is that not every Mexican is illegal, warranting the removal of Mexican for something like "Run Illegals Run." Not the addition of all illegal origin nationalities...which would still be incorrect, since all those nationalities aren't illegal. Are you tracking?
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Uh Daniel, the title doesn't say "Run illegals run". It flatly says "run Mexicans run"... Where's my 6 day old daughter going to run? i think we are looking at it different, if your daughter is born here legally she should be welcome to the blessing of our nation. i just see the title of the thread as just that. i don't care if it say mexicians, french, cracker mother fuckers. it's a title, it's word, and i don't let words rule my emotions. i respect your point and honestly see your point. if i was you that would make me raise my eyebrows, but that's as far as it would go. for what it's worth, glad your daughter is here If you see my point then you see why the title is offensive and just factually stupid/ incorrect. I worked on one case in Hawaii where a legal Arab immigrant dimed out an illegal one. Was the best conversation/interview I had with someone about their loyalty to this country. The illegal was deported and sent back to Egypt. The legal one went on to train Soldiers deploying to Iraq and provided a valuable service to the defense of our country ol'buddy, i do see why you would think the title is incorrect. others that love this nation as much as you do also see nothing wrong with it. it just seems around ARFCOM you can't have differing opinins on these matters. |
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i only track trolls like you Larue, you will find and arguement in anything i say, no matter if you agree with it. i had Jack scrub a thread because no one wanted to post in it after you started your questioning. there is no answering any questions you have, you only have more. you do this to box people in and still have more questions. you will never be happy until someone gives up the arguement, like the thread being deleted, you trolled until you got what you wanted. that's actually what the whole thread was about
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Uh Daniel, the title doesn't say "Run illegals run". It flatly says "run Mexicans run"... Where's my 6 day old daughter going to run? i think we are looking at it different, if your daughter is born here legally she should be welcome to the blessing of our nation. i just see the title of the thread as just that. i don't care if it say mexicians, french, cracker mother fuckers. it's a title, it's word, and i don't let words rule my emotions. i respect your point and honestly see your point. if i was you that would make me raise my eyebrows, but that's as far as it would go. for what it's worth, glad your daughter is here If you see my point then you see why the title is offensive and just factually stupid/ incorrect. I worked on one case in Hawaii where a legal Arab immigrant dimed out an illegal one. Was the best conversation/interview I had with someone about their loyalty to this country. The illegal was deported and sent back to Egypt. The legal one went on to train Soldiers deploying to Iraq and provided a valuable service to the defense of our country ol'buddy, i do see why you would think the title is incorrect. others that love this nation as much as you do also see nothing wrong with it. it just seems around ARFCOM you can't have differing opinins on these matters. You can have an opinion but when said opinion is proven to be wrong most people would accept it. I don't get offended by anything other than stupidity. The point of the bill is to go after illegals, not target a specific portion that come from a certain country nor those whose ethnicities mark them from that culture, regardless of citizenship status. |
Yal are fucking killing me, lol. I just wanted to learn about the bill, which is why I clicked on the thread. I guess someone needs to start another thread to actually discuss it because
Is the thread title racist.... maybe/ maybe not, but clearly it's offensive amongst a diverse group of individuals in a public forum, so yes it's in bad taste. Fine, I'll play along.... what's the difference in a 'Mexican' and a "Mexican American"? |
| Why focusing on "Mexicans" or any ethnocentric group is a bad idea: MS-13 |
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