Posted: 11/14/2009 4:13:14 PM EDT
| I don't know if I'm missing something but Debra Madina sounds like the real deal for Texas governor. Just heard her on a replay of the Mike Church show and was very impressed by her knowledge and adherence to the constitution and history of Texas and the U.S. She's got my vote unless someone here knows something I don't. |
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Well this is good news. Kay is going to split the Republican vote, then Debra Medina can split it again and the Dems will be able to roll someone into the Governor's Mansion uncontested.
Great plan, hope you aren't too attached to your jobs or your CHLs. I for one am looking forward to paying higher taxes on everything and hearing about all kinds of new things we should be doing to help the uninsured in Texas. 
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Well this is good news. Kay is going to split the Republican vote, then Debra Medina can split it again and the Dems will be able to roll someone into the Governor's Mansion uncontested. Great plan, hope you aren't too attached to your jobs or your CHLs. I for one am looking forward to paying higher taxes on everything and hearing about all kinds of new things we should be doing to help the uninsured in Texas.
Ummm, I think 2 of the 3 will be gone after the primary. This is usually the way it works. I think a little competition is good. The way the system was set up, the candidates were supposed to come from the general public, not picked by a committee in some backroom. I for one, am not a fan of multi-term politicians. |
| The democrats will probably have Chris Bell as their candidate again. It's nice having Chris as an opponent. He has a record that rivals TSU's football team. Pinky will probably start out as a democrat, and then switch over to being an independent, for some additional attention whoring. |
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Quoted: I think motown has a valid point here.......this is NOT what we need. How do you figure? They are all running as Republicans. Two of them will be eliminated in the Republican Primary. Thus it will be 1:1 in the general election. How does the vote get split? Anyway, anyone can talk the talk. I will take the guy who was walked the walk... for almost ten years. Has Perry done a few things I wish he hadn't? Sure. But they are few and far between, and then one I dislike the most (TTC) is gone. For me, it is truly hard to envision a Gov. better for what I want the Perry. By far the best in the 20 years I have lived here. |
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Quoted: Well this is good news. Kay is going to split the Republican vote, then Debra Medina can split it again and the Dems will be able to roll someone into the Governor's Mansion uncontested. Great plan, hope you aren't too attached to your jobs or your CHLs. I for one am looking forward to paying higher taxes on everything and hearing about all kinds of new things we should be doing to help the uninsured in Texas. You having Granholm flashbacks too? |
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I think motown has a valid point here.......this is NOT what we need. How do you figure? They are all running as Republicans. Two of them will be eliminated in the Republican Primary. Thus it will be 1:1 in the general election. How does the vote get split? Anyway, anyone can talk the talk. I will take the guy who was walked the walk... for almost ten years. Has Perry done a few things I wish he hadn't? Sure. But they are few and far between, and then one I dislike the most (TTC) is gone. For me, it is truly hard to envision a Gov. better for what I want the Perry. By far the best in the 20 years I have lived here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Medina running as an independent? Kinda like how Ross Perot helped Clinton out. And as someone else pointed out, I've seen this happen before. Back in Michigan we had a great Republican Governor for 12 years in John Engler. When he reached his term limit his Lieutenant Governor, Dick Posthumous ran, but he had a strong challenge in the Primary. He won the primary, but there were some hard feelings over the primary battle and a lot of Republicans stayed home. In swept the Canadian Democrat, Jennifer Granholm. She beat Posthumous, despite the fact that the state was in really good shape at the time (taxes were low, unemployment was low, government spending had been cut to the bone, we had a concealed carry law passed and singed and crime was going down). Granholm gets in and spending increased, taxes increased and unemployment started skyrocketing. Since the state has a balanced budget amendment, she had to cut services, but she cut them in all the wrong places (like cutting unemployment rather than cutting social welfare programs). She also vetoed a couple of pro-gun bills, endorsed a state "assault weapons ban" and vetoed a partial birth abortion bill. Now Michigan is a state on the verge of collapse, with an enormous exodus taking place, taxes continuing to increase, property values falling like a rock and they are actually collecting property taxes 3 years in advance just to keep the lights on. Don't think that it can't happen here. Our strong economy has lured a lot of people into this state from California, Chicago, Michigan and New York. Don't think for a second that these people will be voting pro-gun, low taxes and smaller government. Look at all of the offices that the Dems took in the last two elections. In 2006 they swung the courts in Dallas county hard left after they had been firmly in Republican hands. Hell, John McCain only carried Texas in 2008 by 950,695 votes. That's about half what Bush got in 2004, and Perry only beat Chris Bell by 406,455 votes in 2006. Cut that in half, throw in an independent to split the right wing vote and we'll have a Democratic governor. Oh and one more thing, there were 6 candidates for Governor in 2006. Strayhorn took 796,851 votes from Perry. We could very well lose this next election and wind up with a Dem governor again. Do you want to relive the Ann Richards days? |
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I think motown has a valid point here.......this is NOT what we need. How do you figure? They are all running as Republicans. Two of them will be eliminated in the Republican Primary. Thus it will be 1:1 in the general election. How does the vote get split? Anyway, anyone can talk the talk. I will take the guy who was walked the walk... for almost ten years. Has Perry done a few things I wish he hadn't? Sure. But they are few and far between, and then one I dislike the most (TTC) is gone. For me, it is truly hard to envision a Gov. better for what I want the Perry. By far the best in the 20 years I have lived here. What happened to the TTC? Did they kill it? links? |
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The grass is not always greener on the other side of the street. Debra Madina can be the future, but NOT now, since Perry is still running. If Debra is good as suggested, then Debra should wait until Perry is done. A smart person should wait a correct moment to seize. Running now will only get her ass kicked. Politicians can promise all the great things, all the changes while running. When actually in the office, they will not perform like the ways they want to. Politics is not a one-way street, not a two-ways street, but a fricking cesspool-street. |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Medina running as an independent? Kinda like how Ross Perot helped Clinton out. If so, it'd be news to Medina (who currently chairs the GOP in Wharton Co.)... Debra Medina for Texas Governor |
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Quoted: The grass is not always greener on the other side of the street. Debra Madina can be the future, but NOT now, since Perry is still running. If Debra is good as suggested, then Debra should wait until Perry is done. A smart person should wait a correct moment to seize. Running now will only get her ass kicked. Politicians can promise all the great things, all the changes while running. When actually in the office, they will not perform like the ways they want to. Politics is not a one-way street, not a two-ways street, but a fricking cesspool-street. What do you care? It's not like you can vote anyway... |
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Well, we have some decent Republicans in Texas, but I tell y'all one thing: I think I'm done with "vote for the party line because you'll only help the Democrats." I'm sick and tired of the "moderate" Republicans and they can kiss my ass. This. The party will never return to its conservative roots so long as those who deceptively wrap themselves in the cloak of the GOP continue to receive blind loyalty from the rank-and-file regardless of what they do once voted into office. |
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The grass is not always greener on the other side of the street. Debra Madina can be the future, but NOT now, since Perry is still running. If Debra is good as suggested, then Debra should wait until Perry is done. A smart person should wait a correct moment to seize. Running now will only get her ass kicked. Politicians can promise all the great things, all the changes while running. When actually in the office, they will not perform like the ways they want to. Politics is not a one-way street, not a two-ways street, but a fricking cesspool-street. What do you care? It's not like you can vote anyway... Obama will change that, and make illegals legal, so they all can vote. |
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Well, we have some decent Republicans in Texas, but I tell y'all one thing: I think I'm done with "vote for the party line because you'll only help the Democrats." I'm sick and tired of the "moderate" Republicans and they can kiss my ass. This. The party will never return to its conservative roots so long as those who deceptively wrap themselves in the cloak of the GOP continue to receive blind loyalty from the rank-and-file regardless of what they do once voted into office. +1. Like Joseph Cao––a Rep, LA––another pathetic, disgrace lowlife. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The grass is not always greener on the other side of the street. Debra Madina can be the future, but NOT now, since Perry is still running. If Debra is good as suggested, then Debra should wait until Perry is done. A smart person should wait a correct moment to seize. Running now will only get her ass kicked. Politicians can promise all the great things, all the changes while running. When actually in the office, they will not perform like the ways they want to. Politics is not a one-way street, not a two-ways street, but a fricking cesspool-street. What do you care? It's not like you can vote anyway... Obama will change that, and make illegals legal, so they all can vote. Good one.  |
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Quoted: Well this is good news. Kay is going to split the Republican vote, then Debra Medina can split it again and the Dems will be able to roll someone into the Governor's Mansion uncontested. Great plan, hope you aren't too attached to your jobs or your CHLs. I for one am looking forward to paying higher taxes on everything and hearing about all kinds of new things we should be doing to help the uninsured in Texas.  It's called the Republican Primary... |
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Well this is good news. Kay is going to split the Republican vote, then Debra Medina can split it again and the Dems will be able to roll someone into the Governor's Mansion uncontested. Great plan, hope you aren't too attached to your jobs or your CHLs. I for one am looking forward to paying higher taxes on everything and hearing about all kinds of new things we should be doing to help the uninsured in Texas.
It's called the Republican Primary... I think Motown has a legitimate concern about some of the split votes/non-votes. |
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I am voting Perry. He has been good for gun owners, and that is my conservative issue. If you will publicly support something as non-PC as the RKBA then I figure your pretty conservative and obliged to follow the constitution.
Its easy to campaign to the right to get the nomination, its another thing to govern from there after you have won. HK Ag |
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It's called the Republican Primary... I think Motown has a legitimate concern about some of the split votes/non-votes. I'm not sure why. In the end, only one of the 3 (for now) Republicans will represent the party come election day...unless one (or both) of the primary losers decides to run as an independant or something. But other than that, this is no different from any other multi-candidate primary, which is pretty normal. |
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It's called the Republican Primary... I think Motown has a legitimate concern about some of the split votes/non-votes. I'm not sure why. In the end, only one of the 3 (for now) Republicans will represent the party come election day...unless one (or both) of the primary losers decides to run as an independant or something. But other than that, this is no different from any other multi-candidate primary, which is pretty normal. Motown's example in Mich. is an example of his concern. Here's another one: Obama vs. Hillery Clinton (during Dem nomination). The race was featured with attacks/counter-attacks for several months that left the bad after-taste to Clinton camp and her supporters who were willing either vote for McCain, not to vote for Obama, or not to vote at all. Of course, whether her supporters did it or not, we don't know, but it was out there. IMO... If there is a bitter, prolonged primary, and if the race between Rep vs. Dem is close, then there is a possibility that the votes/non-votes can affect the outcome. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's called the Republican Primary... I think Motown has a legitimate concern about some of the split votes/non-votes. I'm not sure why. In the end, only one of the 3 (for now) Republicans will represent the party come election day...unless one (or both) of the primary losers decides to run as an independant or something. But other than that, this is no different from any other multi-candidate primary, which is pretty normal. Motown's example in Mich. is an example of his concern. Here's another one: Obama vs. Hillery Clinton (during Dem nomination). The race was featured with attacks/counter-attacks for several months that left the bad after-taste to Clinton camp and her supporters who were willing either vote for McCain, not to vote for Obama, or not to vote at all. Of course, whether her supporters did it or not, we don't know, but it was out there. IMO... If there is a bitter, prolonged primary, and if the race between Rep vs. Dem is close, then there is a possibility that the votes/non-votes can affect the outcome. So because a bunch of Michiganders got all butt-hurt over a fucking primary, no one should run against an incumbent governor who's been in office for nine years? If that's what you're worried about, then you should be infinitely more concerned about Kay Bailout Hutchison... Honestly, if the TxGOP thinks it's a big enough issue, they can take steps to effectively bar challenging an incumbent (probably couldn't actually prevent it, but could make it nigh impossible). |
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Motown's example in Mich. is an example of his concern. Here's another one: Obama vs. Hillery Clinton (during Dem nomination). The race was featured with attacks/counter-attacks for several months that left the bad after-taste to Clinton camp and her supporters who were willing either vote for McCain, not to vote for Obama, or not to vote at all. Of course, whether her supporters did it or not, we don't know, but it was out there. IMO... If there is a bitter, prolonged primary, and if the race between Rep vs. Dem is close, then there is a possibility that the votes/non-votes can affect the outcome. I understand those examples, but both were fairly unusual situations (especially the unprecedented one involving Clinton and Obama). What we're talking about here is simply a case of multiple candidates running in a party primary, which is what primaries are for. The alternative is to say that incumbants should never be challenged from within the party...and quite frankly I find that to be the more unacceptable of the two choices. |
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It's called the Republican Primary... I think Motown has a legitimate concern about some of the split votes/non-votes. I'm not sure why. In the end, only one of the 3 (for now) Republicans will represent the party come election day...unless one (or both) of the primary losers decides to run as an independant or something. But other than that, this is no different from any other multi-candidate primary, which is pretty normal. Motown's example in Mich. is an example of his concern. Here's another one: Obama vs. Hillery Clinton (during Dem nomination). The race was featured with attacks/counter-attacks for several months that left the bad after-taste to Clinton camp and her supporters who were willing either vote for McCain, not to vote for Obama, or not to vote at all. Of course, whether her supporters did it or not, we don't know, but it was out there. IMO... If there is a bitter, prolonged primary, and if the race between Rep vs. Dem is close, then there is a possibility that the votes/non-votes can affect the outcome. So because a bunch of Michiganders got all butt-hurt over a fucking primary, no one should run against an incumbent governor who's been in office for nine years? If that's what you're worried about, then you should be infinitely more concerned about Kay Bailout Hutchison... Honestly, if the TxGOP thinks it's a big enough issue, they can take steps to effectively bar challenging an incumbent (probably couldn't actually prevent it, but could make it nigh impossible). Nope. Perry should not have any problems against either Hutchinson or Medina. |
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One good thing about the Governor of Texas is, he is actually pretty powerless. He can say how he is going to do a bunch of stuff, but if the Ledge doesn't go along with it, it won't happen. His only real power is his ability to either sign or veto bills. And he can sell our roads to the lowest Spanish bidder. I think Perry's been in office too long as it is. Time for new blood. KBH is not new blood. I love Medina's stance on property taxes, the 2nd ammendment, and the Constitution (State and Federal.) I don't care if my vote for her will split the re-pube-icans and put a dem in office. I have to vote for the Best candidate. Of course, my vote hasn't mattered since 1976.
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Well, we have some decent Republicans in Texas, but I tell y'all one thing: I think I'm done with "vote for the party line because you'll only help the Democrats." I'm sick and tired of the "moderate" Republicans and they can kiss my ass. Tell us how you really feel. Perry has my vote and support. |
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Quoted: I think what we don't need are more people who don't understand the electoral system in Texas. I'm tired of KBH and Perry. Quoted: Quoted: I think motown has a valid point here.......this is NOT what we need. +45223 on this one.... What exactly is it that we don't need? |