Posted: 3/21/2015 9:01:24 PM EDT
| Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? |
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? The state dps will not issue a written opinion on the matter- so ATF still requires F/a for transfers- however that is a state requirement and not a federal requirement. Many mg owners are of the opinion that you can convert back to select fire, others say you can't. You will here the same from CIII dealers as well-!some say yes, some say no! Do what you feel comfortable with- it can't really become any more assaultier , since they would be considered assault weapons if they were semis. The new law changed the definition of what an assault weapon is and what it was! |
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The state dps will not issue a written opinion on the matter- so ATF still requires F/a for transfers- however that is a state requirement and not a federal requirement. Many mg owners are of the opinion that you can convert back to select fire, others say you can't. You will here the same from CIII dealers as well-!some say yes, some say no! Do what you feel comfortable with- it can't really become any more assaultier , since they would be considered assault weapons if they were semis. The new law changed the definition of what an assault weapon is and what it was! Quoted:
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? The state dps will not issue a written opinion on the matter- so ATF still requires F/a for transfers- however that is a state requirement and not a federal requirement. Many mg owners are of the opinion that you can convert back to select fire, others say you can't. You will here the same from CIII dealers as well-!some say yes, some say no! Do what you feel comfortable with- it can't really become any more assaultier , since they would be considered assault weapons if they were semis. The new law changed the definition of what an assault weapon is and what it was! So are you saying that a dealer will transfer a S/F firearm? Or will they make it FA only? |
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? The state dps will not issue a written opinion on the matter- so ATF still requires F/a for transfers- however that is a state requirement and not a federal requirement. Many mg owners are of the opinion that you can convert back to select fire, others say you can't. You will here the same from CIII dealers as well-!some say yes, some say no! Do what you feel comfortable with- it can't really become any more assaultier , since they would be considered assault weapons if they were semis. The new law changed the definition of what an assault weapon is and what it was! So are you saying that a dealer will transfer a S/F firearm? Or will they make it FA only? ATF won't approve a select fire transfer because ctdps won't issue a written opinion |
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? The state dps will not issue a written opinion on the matter- so ATF still requires F/a for transfers- however that is a state requirement and not a federal requirement. Many mg owners are of the opinion that you can convert back to select fire, others say you can't. You will here the same from CIII dealers as well-!some say yes, some say no! Do what you feel comfortable with- it can't really become any more assaultier , since they would be considered assault weapons if they were semis. The new law changed the definition of what an assault weapon is and what it was! So are you saying that a dealer will transfer a S/F firearm? Or will they make it FA only? ATF won't approve a select fire transfer because ctdps won't issue a written opinion Gotcha, well Im looking at a Sten MKII, and I guess its Select fire, so do you know if its possible to make one FA only? |
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Gotcha, well Im looking at a Sten MKII, and I guess its Select fire, so do you know if its possible to make one FA only? Quoted:
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? The state dps will not issue a written opinion on the matter- so ATF still requires F/a for transfers- however that is a state requirement and not a federal requirement. Many mg owners are of the opinion that you can convert back to select fire, others say you can't. You will here the same from CIII dealers as well-!some say yes, some say no! Do what you feel comfortable with- it can't really become any more assaultier , since they would be considered assault weapons if they were semis. The new law changed the definition of what an assault weapon is and what it was! So are you saying that a dealer will transfer a S/F firearm? Or will they make it FA only? ATF won't approve a select fire transfer because ctdps won't issue a written opinion Gotcha, well Im looking at a Sten MKII, and I guess its Select fire, so do you know if its possible to make one FA only? Yes, it can be made to F/a only and most likely very easily. I know of two dealers that I will recommend Pm sent |
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? http://www.cga.ct.gov/2014/sup/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202a "(1) “Assault weapon” means: (A) (i) Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or..." |
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Didnt get it. But am interested! Thanks for the link SB. Quoted:
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Yes, it can be made to F/a only and most likely very easily. I know of two dealers that I will recommend Pm sent Didnt get it. But am interested! Thanks for the link SB. I had to send it as email |
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When you really sit down and think about it, the fact that the people we hire and pay for in our government who are responsible for enforcing the laws, can't or won't offer information that will resolve and issue like this should infuriate us. It's their job for cripes sakes! Of course if you push them, in this anti-gun climate, you'd probably end up with an answer that you don't like but to simply refuse to answer a direct question from a constituent who simply wants to comply with the law is mind-blowing. Absolutely inexcusable.
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When you really sit down and think about it, the fact that the people we hire and pay for in our government who are responsible for enforcing the laws, can't or won't offer information that will resolve and issue like this should infuriate us. It's their job for cripes sakes! Of course if you push them, in this anti-gun climate, you'd probably end up with an answer that you don't like but to simply refuse to answer a direct question from a constituent who simply wants to comply with the law is mind-blowing. Absolutely inexcusable. Rome These "law makers" are incompetent and would not survive five minutes in the real world. Also they purposely make they laws vague to keep their lawyer friends in business. |
| Thank heavens for incompetent legislators and staffers. Otherwise CT would be a non-NFA state, and there would be no such thing as a pre ban. I am sure that most of the CT legislators have no idea which end of a firearm the bullet comes out of, and don't understand much of what they vote for. |
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If you register it as an "assault weapon" with the state can it not stay "select fire"? They're all pre 94 guns so can be added to the CT registry when ever and then removed if you ever want to sell it.
As for a Sten gun I didn't even know they were able to be Semi and FA. It's basically a tube with a somewhat machined bolt that slams around inside to fire 9mm. The grand daddy to the Mac family I think. |
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http://www.cga.ct.gov/2014/sup/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202a "(1) “Assault weapon” means: (A) (i) Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or..." Quoted:
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? http://www.cga.ct.gov/2014/sup/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202a "(1) “Assault weapon” means: (A) (i) Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or..." How does the pre 94 fit in? I can have the semi autos on that list if they are preban or no? |
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How does the pre 94 fit in? I can have the semi autos on that list if they are preban or no? Quoted:
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Is select fire still a no go here? Or did that change with the new laws? http://www.cga.ct.gov/2014/sup/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202a "(1) “Assault weapon” means: (A) (i) Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or..." How does the pre 94 fit in? I can have the semi autos on that list if they are preban or no? Well, it will depend on who you want to believe. SLFU/DESPP or the wording of the law. Because SLFU/DESPP has reinterpreted the language of the preban statute (Sec. 53-202m) so as to allow preban banned by name firearms its very possible that preban selective-fire firearm may be legal to own now under their reinterpretation. If preban AK's are now legal why not preban's with the fun switch? Or is this reinterpretation confined to just semiautomatic firearms? Like I've said all along this reinterpretation of prebans by DESPP/SLFU post 4/4/13 has opened up a whole host of issues. The wording of the law (Sec. 53-202m) however appears to indicate otherwise. The wording would appear to indicate that only those firearms manufactured prior to 9/13/94 which were not banned by name prior to 4/4/13 and which meet the prior to 4/4/13 evil two feature requirement are considered "preban" and legal to buy and don't have to be registered. In that case select fire firearms are banned. Ah the joy's of living in CT and trying to understand the anti gun statutes as written by progressive gun hating lobbyists and politicians. 
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Based on all of this, I guess Ill just leave it to the discretion of the dealer who does the transfer.
Its not much of a loss to lose the semi function on something like a Sten(I would assume), so I wont cry about it, its just a shame that it has to be neutered, and changed from its original design to follow absurd laws. Also, yea Sardo, I didnt know that at first either, then I found out that it has semi also, so I got nervous and started this thread!  But id say so, it must be one of the first open bolt submachine guns. Although the MAC is more of a machine pistol, the function is very similar.
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Well since our registered semis are considered AWs, I believe you can get a sear/LL/RDIAS/etc., and have select fire with um, as you can't make an AW more assaultier Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That seems to be the thinking .... Of sum, and not ... Of others. |
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Stens have been select-fire from day one.
Yes, it's easy to convert to full-auto only and then easy to convert back to select-fire. No, NFA Branch will not approve a transfer into or in CT without a statement that the firearm in question is full-auto only. Yes, the SLFU is currently interpreting CT law to exempt ALL pre-ban firearms from the ban on purchasing. This would automatically include every transferable MG, as they were all built and registered by 1986. No, they won't put this in writing, so NFA Branch will continue to refuse to approve transfers of select-fire guns. Based on SLFU's (verbal) interpretation of the law, a lot of MG owners who had neutered their guns have restored them to select-fire. Personally, I don't agree with this interpretation but I'm happy to go along with it as it occasionally comes in handy to flip the old giggle switch to "semi". |