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11/7/2012 5:19:43 PM EDT
Took a "mini" course on shooting with a light last night.  Entirely too much fun.  (Glad I didn't watch too much election.)
Some things I learned.
1. Smoke is like fog. - Bright light reflects back in your face!
2. Don't let your knuckles hit the slide while holding the flashlight!  YEEEEOUCH. - Cold fingers and fast moving slide hurts like a beeiitch.  Work on technique.
3. If I'm gonna be in a fire fight.  I want more rounds.  I love my 1911, but reloading with a light is challenging. - Practice like you would anything else. It helps.
4. If you have a light on your gun, ( I don't) you really must have a spare anyway.  Unless you like pointing your gun at shit it shouldn't be pointed at!
5. Targets look a heck of lot different in the dark.
6.  And - I need to do more shooting in the dark

We shot it like an IPSC match.  Ran the course 2 twice, 8 targets, forwards and backwards.  You wouldn't think it would  much different going forward and then backward.  In the dark it was very different.

We only shot about 60 rounds, but it was well worth the experience.  I highly recommend the experience.  It is VERY different than day light shooting.
11/7/2012 5:48:05 PM EDT
[#1]
I have done night shoots with rifles and shotguns many times(my neighbors surely hate me). Sadly I never have with a pistol. I need to get on that...
11/7/2012 5:58:00 PM EDT
[#2]
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Took a "mini" course on shooting with a light last night.  Entirely too much fun.  (Glad I didn't watch too much election.)

Some things I learned.

1. Smoke is like fog. - Bright light reflects back in your face!  You can indeed have too bright a light.

2. Don't let your knuckles hit the slide while holding the flashlight!  YEEEEOUCH. - Cold fingers and fast moving slide hurts like a beeiitch.  Work on technique.  Meh, guns bite sometimes.  It happens.  The real problem is when it causes a malfunction.  Technique is important. I have one Surefire with plenty of slide strikes on the bezel.  All from being loaned to other shooters BTW.

3. If I'm gonna be in a fire fight.  I want more rounds.  I love my 1911, but reloading with a light is challenging. - Practice like you would anything else. It helps.  A lanyard helps with that on a hand-held light.  Just drop the light, do what you need to do, then grab the light again.  A little 550 cord and a cord-loc go a long way.

4. If you have a light on your gun, ( I don't) you really must have a spare anyway.  Unless you like pointing your gun at shit it shouldn't be pointed at! Meh, since the gun was only brought to bear as a result of an imminent danger to me it doesn't bother me that much as long as Rule #3 is adhered to.  The beauty of the "4 Rules Of Gun Safety" is that you have to violate at least 2 of them before somebody gets hurt.

5. Targets look a heck of lot different in the dark.  They all look like shoot targets, huh.  

6.  And - I need to do more shooting in the dark



We shot it like an IPSC match.  Ran the course 2 twice, 8 targets, forwards and backwards.  You wouldn't think it would  much different going forward and then backward.  In the dark it was very different.



We only shot about 60 rounds, but it was well worth the experience.  I highly recommend the experience.  It is VERY different than day light shooting.
Remember, the Russians come at night.  





 
11/7/2012 6:55:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
My responses imbedded.
Quoted:
Took a "mini" course on shooting with a light last night.  Entirely too much fun.  (Glad I didn't watch too much election.)
Some things I learned.
1. Smoke is like fog. - Bright light reflects back in your face!  You can indeed have too bright a light.
2. Don't let your knuckles hit the slide while holding the flashlight!  YEEEEOUCH. - Cold fingers and fast moving slide hurts like a beeiitch.  Work on technique.  Meh, guns bite sometimes.  It happens.  The real problem is when it causes a malfunction.  Technique is important. I have one Surefire with plenty of slide strikes on the bezel.  All from being loaned to other shooters BTW.
3. If I'm gonna be in a fire fight.  I want more rounds.  I love my 1911, but reloading with a light is challenging. - Practice like you would anything else. It helps.  A lanyard helps with that on a hand-held light.  Just drop the light, do what you need to do, then grab the light again.  A little 550 cord and a cord-loc go a long way.
4. If you have a light on your gun, ( I don't) you really must have a spare anyway.  Unless you like pointing your gun at shit it shouldn't be pointed at! Meh, since the gun was only brought to bear as a result of an imminent danger to me it doesn't bother me that much as long as Rule #3 is adhered to.  The beauty of the "4 Rules Of Gun Safety" is that you have to violate at least 2 of them before somebody gets hurt.
5. Targets look a heck of lot different in the dark.  They all look like shoot targets, huh.  
6.  And - I need to do more shooting in the dark

We shot it like an IPSC match.  Ran the course 2 twice, 8 targets, forwards and backwards.  You wouldn't think it would  much different going forward and then backward.  In the dark it was very different.

We only shot about 60 rounds, but it was well worth the experience.  I highly recommend the experience.  It is VERY different than day light shooting.
Remember, the Russians come at night.  

 


Thanks for the advice.  Us 50 year old rookies need all the help we can get.  LOL
It wasn't that they looked the same, the dang no shoots were scattered in the in bad guys.  

- Hey!  When I shoot, DUCK! Don't just stand there!
11/8/2012 3:33:40 AM EDT
[#4]
When we did our qualifications in class shooting in low or no light without having to do target recognition, my score went up. I guess I was aiming smaller to be sure to hit something.

I use a pistol light on my 1911 as I'm with Eric. If my gun is drawn and I'm using the light then there is a reason my gun is out and my light is being used. If you are in the room you are get illuminated until I assess the threat. I can hear my instructor yelling now, "trigger finger indexing".....and he is right. Don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to rock n roll. Of course a general area search for something not threat related would rate a flash light not a weapon light.

11/8/2012 4:18:42 AM EDT
[#5]
Night shoots sound like fun unless it's in my house and I am wearing my pj's.  

The lanyard sounds like an excellent idea.
11/8/2012 4:19:31 AM EDT
[#6]



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When we did our qualifications in class shooting in low or no light without having to do target recognition, my score went up. I guess I was aiming smaller to be sure to hit something.



I use a pistol light on my 1911 as I'm with Eric. If my gun is drawn and I'm using the light then there is a reason my gun is out and my light is being used. If you are in the room you are get illuminated until I assess the threat. I can hear my instructor yelling now, "trigger finger indexing".....and he is right. Don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to rock n roll. Of course a general area search for something not threat related would rate a flash light not a weapon light.





Yes, of course.  



 
11/8/2012 7:50:10 AM EDT
[#7]
it would be nice if someone did a night shoot / night training around here
11/8/2012 4:46:18 PM EDT
[#8]
I would go.  It just needs to be within a decent distance and cost.  Seems everytime someone has something, I am working, its too much cash, or it is three hours away.
Someday, I will get a chance to shoot with the group.
11/8/2012 6:12:37 PM EDT
[#9]
GO TO the Bone Creek nite shoot!
11/8/2012 6:31:56 PM EDT
[#10]
I took a low light course some time ago, ScottMO was there I think, he caught me holding my light in my mouth during reloads.
I have large hands and don't like the idea of fumbling with a lanyard loop if I have to deploy my ccw and light on the fly.

I have since added a small bit of rubber tubing on the end cap to make this easier on my teeth...

Also, Bill Regina runs some low light courses on the cave range in KC IIRC