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Posted: 3/28/2023 4:22:09 AM EST
[#1]
 Did Illinois ban MOST semi-auto shotguns? |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 6:06:19 AM EST
[#2]
 Illinois' Mag Ban Isn't What They Say It Is |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2023 2:58:18 PM EST
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Quote HistorySo does this basically mean we cannot carry autoloaders unless the magazine has no floorplate? I don't think gluing or welding will work either. ISP will just arrest you and let the courts work it out. That you will lose your guns forever seems to me a forgone conclusion. We know local police are very reluctant to give your gun back when there is no crime. How do you think ISP will treat you? They can run your plates, find your CCL, and pull you over for a slow lane change and voila! Yeah, it's illegal as hell but you cannot beat city hall. The law abiding are much easier to catch than a criminal who games the system. |
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Posted: 4/4/2023 4:08:53 PM EST
[#4]
Back to my 1911's with the welded metal base plate mags? Or the hiPower 15 round welded metal base plate mags.
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Posted: 4/4/2023 4:44:15 PM EST
[#5]
 BREAKING NEWS: Judge Finds Red Flag Law Unconstitutional... |
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Posted: 4/5/2023 2:51:00 PM EST
[#6]
 Illinois' Shotgun Ban is Broader Then They Say It IS -- Mini shells |
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Posted: 4/6/2023 2:39:57 PM EST
[#7]
 Did Illinois Ban Sales of Remington 870s? |
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Posted: 4/6/2023 6:03:25 PM EST
[#8]
 2A HISTORY LESSON FOR SUPER GEEKS: How an Anti-2A Judge in NYC Helped Save the 2nd Amendment |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 10:46:48 AM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yore353: Back to my 1911's with the welded metal base plate mags? Or the hiPower 15 round welded metal base plate mags. I'm not welding shit. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 11:24:02 AM EST
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It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart. He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc. He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose. The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times. I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly.
Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 1:08:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By F14ADC: It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart. He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc. He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose. The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times. I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly. Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it. I dont think you give them enough credit. This was YEARS in the making. They see how the BATF can change definitions on a whim and fiqure a State Legislator could get away with even more. 10 minutes after the copy of the law was available, I brought up mini shells, how their definition of a shroud prety much describes any forend on a stock, convertable. Look back through my posts here. Their definations where picked carefully to out law every semi auto period. Maybe not now but a year of five down the road. One big step then several little ones. Who does the interpitation ? You or them. I'll give you a clue its not you. |
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Posted: 4/7/2023 2:48:10 PM EST
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They carefully did a lot of cut and paste from other states laws.
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Posted: 4/7/2023 3:41:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARMALITE-FAN: I dont think you give them enough credit. This was YEARS in the making. They see how the BATF can change definitions on a whim and fiqure a State Legislator could get away with even more. 10 minutes after the copy of the law was available, I brought up mini shells, how their definition of a shroud prety much describes any forend on a stock, convertable. Look back through my posts here. Their definations where picked carefully to out law every semi auto period. Maybe not now but a year of five down the road. One big step then several little ones. Who does the interpitation ? You or them. I'll give you a clue its not you.  Attached File |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 3:54:20 PM EST
[#14]
Well you all could be right I guess.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2023 2:58:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By F14ADC: It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart. He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc. He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose. The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times. I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly. Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it. It doesn't matter who wrote it or why. Government will always use very angle to abuse it's power. |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 3:38:58 PM EST
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The problem is you can intend whatever you want in a law, but ultimately the words are what the law are.
Maybe they did not intend to ban 10/22’s, but the current wording of the law bans them. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2023 8:01:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By F14ADC: It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart. He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc. He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose. The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times. I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly. Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it. I have said it in other threads here before. Never underestimate your enemy. That is how we got into this mess. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:44:12 AM EST
[#18]
 Illinois State Rifle Association predicts federal court injunction against state's gun ban |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 9:38:24 AM EST
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We will see.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 4:44:26 AM EST
[#20]
 After federal judge hears challenge to IL's gun ban, plaintiffs confident law will be overturned |
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Posted: 4/15/2023 6:02:00 PM EST
[#21]
 Quick recap on gun ban hearing |
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Posted: 4/16/2023 3:29:52 AM EST
[#22]
 Harrel v. Raoul plaintiff discusses challenge against Illinois' gun and magazine ban |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:04:40 PM EST
[#23]
 Dear Hillary Hipsters, Miley Millennials and Participation Trophy Panzies |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 10:20:13 PM EST
[#24]
 The Next SCOTUS 2A Case is Coming... |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 10:40:26 PM EST
[#25]
 IL Supreme Court holds appeal of DeVore TROs in gun ban challenge pending outcome of Caulkins case |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 5:12:52 PM EST
[#26]
 Gun-Owning Federal Judge BLASTS Anti-Gun Illinois Lawyers AR Ban Case... |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 6:02:19 PM EST
[#27]
 HUGE 2A NEWS: Federal Court Declares Assault Weapon and Magazine bans to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL... |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 6:34:37 PM EST
[#28]
 Federal Judge issues Injunction Again Illinois Gun Ban |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 9:26:42 PM EST
[#29]
 Supreme Court 2A Decision Brings An End To "Assault Weapon" And Magazine Ban!!! |
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Posted: 4/30/2023 6:57:55 PM EST
[#30]
 4/30 Update State Seeks Stay of Injunction |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 4:43:10 PM EST
[#31]
 MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: SCOTUS Issues Unusual Order in AR-15 and Magazine Ban case |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:17:29 PM EST
[#32]
 Supreme Court Decision To Immediately Stop "Assault Weapon" & Magazine Bans!!! |
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Posted: 5/3/2023 4:31:13 PM EST
[#33]
 5/3 Update on Illinois Gun Ban |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2023 5:52:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: Skunkhunter]
[#34]
The party is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCen82emNc&t=1s |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 6:47:00 PM EST
[#35]
 5/4 update7th Circuit issues Stay of Injunction |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 4:24:05 PM EST
[#36]
 5/5 update the Morning After the Stay |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:54:05 PM EST
[#37]
 5/5 update #2 Freedom Week Guns Declared Illegal 1//1/24 |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 8:37:03 PM EST
[#38]
Here is an opinion I hope is right. TL;DR the judge may have overstepped his bonds by granting this stay, forcing SCOTUS to intervene. We are watching history being made boys and girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsVcTbDaTt0&t=311s |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 10:18:33 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skunkhunter: Here is an opinion I hope is right. TL;DR the judge may have overstepped his bonds by granting this stay, forcing SCOTUS to intervene. We are watching history being made boys and girls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsVcTbDaTt0&t=311s  Supreme Court Immediate Block of "Assault Weapon" & Magazine Bans Coming!?! |
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Posted: 5/6/2023 6:27:17 AM EST
[#40]
 When a Supreme Court Justice Wants to Pick a Fight Over Assault Weapon Bans |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 10:38:19 PM EST
[#41]
 5/9 Explanation of where we are |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 6:08:19 PM EST
[#42]
Seventh Circuit expedites combined AWB cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piLW0qT-Vkg&t=202s |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 6:41:13 PM EST
[#43]
 SCOTUS Could Rule on Naperville Monday |
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Posted: 5/12/2023 7:13:37 PM EST
[#44]
 5/12 Breaking News 7th Circuit Tries to Head Off SCOTUS |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:49:27 AM EST
[#45]
 5/15 Orders List -- Nothing Happened |
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USA
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Posted: 5/15/2023 1:18:10 PM EST
[#46]
Good update...bad news. Not looking good
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Posted: 5/16/2023 8:19:00 AM EST
[#47]
Line in the sand boys. Someones gotta start this party. Looks like it might be us.
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Posted: 5/17/2023 4:28:10 AM EST
[#48]
 HB218 Illinois Tries to get around Protection in Lawful Commerce Act |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 4:57:32 PM EST
[#49]
 BREAKING -- SCOTUS Denies Request for Injunction in Naperville |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2023 3:18:27 PM EST
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I wonder what the relationship of JB to Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring is, they sure look like brothers, probably could share clothes
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