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in the opinion section under ups and downs in the 3/10/09 paper Larry Tobin the editor writes about a raffle that the local NRA is having for a AR15 file on 4/14/09 in Tomahawk WI. He goes on to say that this is a bad idea because of peoples perception about "assault rifles" and states "unless it has been changed significantly since its introduction, it can be altered rather easily to become a fully automatic rifle." He further states, "my issue is not whether anyone should have the right to own one, rather, my argument is that with individual gun rights such a touchy subject in the first place, the NRA should not be flaunting these things before the public just because they can." He goes on to say "far more people hunt and or target practice than shoot assault looking arms just for the fun of it. why not give away instead, as a major prize, a gun that is more versatile and has less negative influence on so much of the non shooting public? Let attendees bid on an AR15 or give one away in a lesser publicized manner if its that necessary, Just don't make a big deal of it."
I don't agree with his opinon so my opinion is that I just cancelled my subscription to the paper |
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I think it's letter writing time to the editor
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| called to make sure they got my email, he told me, he did and said " I was in a gun shop in 1972 in Portage and someone told me you could convert those to automatic easily, that is what I based that comment on" He then told me that no one has ever cancelled the paper and he would not refund any money. I told him whatever, just don't send it to me. |
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called to make sure they got my email, he told me, he did and said " I was in a gun shop in 1972 in Portage and someone told me you could convert those to automatic easily, that is what I based that comment on" He then told me that no one has ever cancelled the paper and he would not refund any money. I told him whatever, just don't send it to me. Im not a journalist but I did stay at a holiday inn express once!!!! |
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called to make sure they got my email, he told me, he did and said " I was in a gun shop in 1972 in Portage and someone told me you could convert those to automatic easily, that is what I based that comment on" He then told me that no one has ever cancelled the paper and he would not refund any money. I told him whatever, just don't send it to me. Yea, there is good journalism ... take some third hand BS info and print it... this guy is the epitomy of the term "Fudd" |
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Hey, I got a response from this fudd today..... he's got 20 guns.....I'll bet, no, AR's or AK's..
Mr. Smith Obviously you don't read my column much or you'd know that I'm far from an Obama fan, having criticized him in print on numerous occasions. I endorsed and voted for John McCain and have be conservative and pro gun for most of my life. You would also know that I am an avid hunter and have nearly 20 guns of my own, all of which I would use if necessary to protect the right to keep them. When I was first introduced to an AR-15 in either 1973 or 1974, I don't recall which, I was told that they were quite easily converted to fully automatic. As I said in the column (which I doubt you actually read), I noted that that possibly could have changed over the years. There are a lot of people out there who do not support the right to own guns, mostly marginally anti and some strongly so. When you're trying to gain the support of those marginal folks or at least keep them indifferent, I don't think it's good public relations on NRA's part to wave a gun that looks every bit like an assault weapon under their noses. There are all sorts of sporting and hunting weapons that would appeal to far more people that NRA could give away, guns that folks like me would by a ticket for. Larry |
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Hey, I got a response for this fudd today..... he's got 20 guns.....I'll bet, no, AR's or AK's.. Mr. Smith Obviously you don't read my column much or you'd know that I'm far from an Obama fan, having criticized him in print on numerous occasions. I endorsed and voted for John McCain and have be conservative and pro gun for most of my life. You would also know that I am an avid hunter and have nearly 20 guns of my own, all of which I would use if necessary to protect the right to keep them. When I was first introduced to an AR-15 in either 1973 or 1974, I don't recall which, I was told that they were quite easily converted to fully automatic. As I said in the column (which I doubt you actually read), I noted that that possibly could have changed over the years. There are a lot of people out there who do not support the right to own guns, mostly marginally anti and some strongly so. When you're trying to gain the support of those marginal folks or at least keep them indifferent, I don't think it's good public relations on NRA's part to wave a gun that looks every bit like an assault weapon under their noses. There are all sorts of sporting and hunting weapons that would appeal to far more people that NRA could give away, guns that folks like me would by a ticket for. Larry Does Larry Proof or edit his own work? Maybe he needs to be educated, rather than beat down. I don't care for his article, and think it is not the way most Pro 2A people think. I am not sure why he is in such great fear of exercising peoples' constitutional rights? He after all chooses to utilize his 1st A rights. I wonder how he would feel if he were to be censored in his writings? |
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Here is what I got from him...
Jeff, I'll tell you the same thing I told your buddy (and all of his other friends who've e-mailed me, most of whom haven't actually read the column because they don't subscribe either). Those who did read it ignore the point I made in the same sentence noting the possibility of turning the weapon into a fully automatic gun. I said that, "unless things have changed," When I was introduced to the AR-15 in either 1973 or 1974, I was told at the time that it was quite easy to convert. As I've told the other guys, I'm and avid hunter and own nearly 20 guns. I'd use all of them if necessary to defend the right of ownership (including an AR-15). But when so much of the public is anti-gun or indifferent, I think it's bad public relations on NRA's part to flaunt this gun in front of everyone when there are so many other hunting and sporting weapons that could be given away with much broader appeal. My reply... Gimme a break. "Unless things have changed" What the hell HAS NOT changed since the 70's! You sir, have no grounds to be writing about an AR-15. I'll bet you are NOT a member of the NRA either??? I have more to say but I want to do it little by little! |
| i was hoping he would have refunded my subscription, I was going to take that money and buy a ticket for the raffle. even though I live 150 miles away from tomahawk, I would have told him thanks for the refund, here it goes for a ticket. I would stop by and you could do a article on it if I win. But no refund, but still might buy a ticket anyway. when i called him about the refund he told me no one has ever canceled a subscription before and that I didn't understand the article, so explained it to me. No explanation is needed, he made statements that are incorrect. |
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Here is what I got from him... Jeff, I'll tell you the same thing I told your buddy (and all of his other friends who've e-mailed me, most of whom haven't actually read the column because they don't subscribe either). Those who did read it ignore the point I made in the same sentence noting the possibility of turning the weapon into a fully automatic gun. I said that, "unless things have changed," When I was introduced to the AR-15 in either 1973 or 1974, I was told at the time that it was quite easy to convert. As I've told the other guys, I'm and avid hunter and own nearly 20 guns. I'd use all of them if necessary to defend the right of ownership (including an AR-15). But when so much of the public is anti-gun or indifferent, I think it's bad public relations on NRA's part to flaunt this gun in front of everyone when there are so many other hunting and sporting weapons that could be given away with much broader appeal. My reply... Gimme a break. "Unless things have changed" What the hell HAS NOT changed since the 70's! You sir, have no grounds to be writing about an AR-15. I'll bet you are NOT a member of the NRA either??? I have more to say but I want to do it little by little! My reply was a bit longer..... 
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What he said and what he thinks are consistent with liberalism...here is his response to my em.
As I said in my column, I have no issue with whether or not anyone has a right to own an AR-15. I have nearly 20 guns of my own and would use them all to defend that right if necessary. However, with all the negative attitudes out there towards gun ownership, when you're trying to win those folks over, I don't think it's a good public relations move on NRA's part to be flaunting an AR-15. There are plenty of other sporting and hunting weapons that more people would like to own. Face it, a good shotgun or deer rifle has a much broader appeal than does an AR-15. Why provoke a portion of an audience that you'd prefer to bring to your side? Larry Tobin I think he needs an education...remember Zumbo the dumbo? |
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Ok, so I got a reply to my last email to our FUDD BUDDY Larry, here it is...
Mr. Smith Actually, I think YOU'RE missing the point. My argument has nothing whatsoever to do with the validity of owning an AR-15 or its usefulness. It's the IMAGE that it presents to the non-gun owning public. It looks like an assault weapon and scares a lot of people. Giving one away as the top gun at an NRA function is simply not a good public relations move. That's the last I'll say on the subject. Thanks for your interest. Larry ______________________________________________ So, then I replyed back to him saying.... Larry, Your missing my point, FUCK the NON GUN OWNING PUBLIC, Does the NON gun Owning public buy raffle tickets for any guns , ever ??? no... THEY HAVE never BEEN OUR FRIENDS, they have never voted against gun control & ALWAYS vote for the Liberal anti gun agenda, that will NEVER change, so again, FUCK the NON Gun owners, they don't have a clue ( like you ) SO by not rubbing their faces in a NRA AR15 raffle WHAT do you gain ? Yes, NOTHING. Start putting a posative spin on your fucking articles, because YOU just did alot to hurt the gun movement, by printing those LIES about AR15's......the non gun owners read that and are thinking OH MY GOD the AR15's assault rifles must be easy to convert, we must BAN ALL guns.... god, how could a news paper editor be so fucking stupid. ______________________________________________ Then Larry the FUDD replyed back one more time.... Obviously, you're a real classy guy. Please don't bother me any more. _________________________________________________ Then I shot back... WELL, Yes Larry I am a classy guy , I have 5 Tuxedo's ... But, then again what would you know about class , writing an article , on a topic, that you know nothing about, then twisting it to put a negative spin on AR-15's because you own 20 hunting rifles, but you are also one of those gun owners that think that AR15's and all "assault rifles" should be banned because your too much of a brainwashed simpleton to fire one or god forbid own a EVIL BLACK RIFLE so your just as bad as them, non gun owners... Ley me guess you don't belong to the NRA either, because if you did, you would be talking up AR15's, not frightening the people that read your lousy rag. When the next Assault Weapons Pass your guns will be banned too. read the TEXT of the Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008...... Please don't bother me anymore with your meaningless reply's. |
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Thats pretty funny.I would bet my collection if he could name a gun that IS more versatile than an AR.
in the opinion section under ups and downs in the 3/10/09 paper Larry Tobin the editor writes about a raffle that the local NRA is having for a AR15 file on 4/14/09 in Tomahawk WI. He goes on to say that this is a bad idea because of peoples perception about "assault rifles" and states "unless it has been changed significantly since its introduction, it can be altered rather easily to become a fully automatic rifle." He further states, "my issue is not whether anyone should have the right to own one, rather, my argument is that with individual gun rights such a touchy subject in the first place, the NRA should not be flaunting these things before the public just because they can." He goes on to say "far more people hunt and or target practice than shoot assault looking arms just for the fun of it. why not give away instead, as a major prize, a gun that is more versatile and has less negative influence on so much of the non shooting public? Let attendees bid on an AR15 or give one away in a lesser publicized manner if its that necessary, Just don't make a big deal of it." I don't agree with his opinon so my opinion is that I just cancelled my subscription to the paper |
| In a nutshell, this guy is saying "we should have a policy of appeasement" toward the views of the handwringing antis. The real issue here is that an AR15 is a perfectly valid, legally protected tool of the Second Amendment, and appeasement never wins - at the MOST it only holds ground for a limited amount of time. Most of us and the NRA have figured that out. His published view advocating appeasement is massively flawed and he should be called out on the real issue instead of being bashed for being a Fudd (although he obviously is one). |
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Ok, so I got a reply to my last email to our FUDD BUDDY Larry, here it is... Mr. Smith Actually, I think YOU'RE missing the point. My argument has nothing whatsoever to do with the validity of owning an AR-15 or its usefulness. It's the IMAGE that it presents to the non-gun owning public. It looks like an assault weapon and scares a lot of people. Giving one away as the top gun at an NRA function is simply not a good public relations move. That's the last I'll say on the subject. Thanks for your interest. Larry ______________________________________________ So, then I replyed back to him saying.... Larry, Your missing my point, FUCK the NON GUN OWNING PUBLIC, Does the NON gun Owning public buy raffle tickets for any guns , ever ??? no... THEY HAVE never BEEN OUR FRIENDS, they have never voted against gun control & ALWAYS vote for the Liberal anti gun agenda, that will NEVER change, so again, FUCK the NON Gun owners, they don't have a clue ( like you ) SO by not rubbing their faces in a NRA AR15 raffle WHAT do you gain ? Yes, NOTHING. Start putting a posative spin on your fucking articles, because YOU just did alot to hurt the gun movement, by printing those LIES about AR15's......the non gun owners read that and are thinking OH MY GOD the AR15's assault rifles must be easy to convert, we must BAN ALL guns.... god, how could a news paper editor be so fucking stupid. ______________________________________________ Then Larry the FUDD replyed back one more time.... Obviously, you're a real classy guy. Please don't bother me any more. _________________________________________________ Then I shot back... WELL, Yes Larry I am a classy guy , I have 5 Tuxedo's ... But, then again what would you know about class , writing an article , on a topic, that you know nothing about, then twisting it to put a negative spin on AR-15's because you own 20 hunting rifles, but you are also one of those gun owners that think that AR15's and all "assault rifles" should be banned because your too much of a brainwashed simpleton to fire one or god forbid own a EVIL BLACK RIFLE so your just as bad as them, non gun owners... Ley me guess you don't belong to the NRA either, because if you did, you would be talking up AR15's, not frightening the people that read your lousy rag. When the next Assault Weapons Pass your guns will be banned too. read the TEXT of the Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008...... Please don't bother me anymore with your meaningless reply's. I don't agree with this jurnalists opinion but your Emails to him made gun owners look even worse. Did you have to lower yourself to swearing at him? Again I don't agree with him but he is free to have his opnion. Perhaps a better come back to him would have been (after he said that a nice hunting rifle or shotgun would have appealed to more people than an AR15) ask him what is the hottest selling rifle right now in the USA? Ask him if he knows how long it takes one to get one if he orders one now? Instead you came up with a great red neck, ignorant, response. Thanks for making gun owners look like a bunch of idiots! |
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Ok, so I got a reply to my last email to our FUDD BUDDY Larry, here it is... Mr. Smith Actually, I think YOU'RE missing the point. My argument has nothing whatsoever to do with the validity of owning an AR-15 or its usefulness. It's the IMAGE that it presents to the non-gun owning public. It looks like an assault weapon and scares a lot of people. Giving one away as the top gun at an NRA function is simply not a good public relations move. That's the last I'll say on the subject. Thanks for your interest. Larry ______________________________________________ So, then I replyed back to him saying.... Larry, Your missing my point, FUCK the NON GUN OWNING PUBLIC, Does the NON gun Owning public buy raffle tickets for any guns , ever ??? no... THEY HAVE never BEEN OUR FRIENDS, they have never voted against gun control & ALWAYS vote for the Liberal anti gun agenda, that will NEVER change, so again, FUCK the NON Gun owners, they don't have a clue ( like you ) SO by not rubbing their faces in a NRA AR15 raffle WHAT do you gain ? Yes, NOTHING. Start putting a posative spin on your fucking articles, because YOU just did alot to hurt the gun movement, by printing those LIES about AR15's......the non gun owners read that and are thinking OH MY GOD the AR15's assault rifles must be easy to convert, we must BAN ALL guns.... god, how could a news paper editor be so fucking stupid. ______________________________________________ Then Larry the FUDD replyed back one more time.... Obviously, you're a real classy guy. Please don't bother me any more. _________________________________________________ Then I shot back... WELL, Yes Larry I am a classy guy , I have 5 Tuxedo's ... But, then again what would you know about class , writing an article , on a topic, that you know nothing about, then twisting it to put a negative spin on AR-15's because you own 20 hunting rifles, but you are also one of those gun owners that think that AR15's and all "assault rifles" should be banned because your too much of a brainwashed simpleton to fire one or god forbid own a EVIL BLACK RIFLE so your just as bad as them, non gun owners... Ley me guess you don't belong to the NRA either, because if you did, you would be talking up AR15's, not frightening the people that read your lousy rag. When the next Assault Weapons Pass your guns will be banned too. read the TEXT of the Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008...... Please don't bother me anymore with your meaningless reply's. I don't agree with this jurnalists opinion but your Emails to him made gun owners look even worse. Did you have to lower yourself to swearing at him? Again I don't agree with him but he is free to have his opnion. Perhaps a better come back to him would have been (after he said that a nice hunting rifle or shotgun would have appealed to more people than an AR15) ask him what is the hottest selling rifle right now in the USA? Ask him if he knows how long it takes one to get one if he orders one now? Instead you came up with a great red neck, ignorant, response. Thanks for making gun owners look like a bunch of idiots! Hey, 2002. low post count Noobie , why don't YOU ask him those things........  ...at least I made an attempt, what did you do ? Probably Nothing..... Did you write him ? Did you explain your side ? Sometimes F Bombs & foul language are the only things some people understand when your trying to drive your point accross. again i reiterate , I don't care what he thinks of me, I also don't give a flying crap what you think of my correspondance to him & further more , unless your passionate enough to open your mouth to those media representatives & law makers that are doing their best to destroy the 2nd ammendent, go express your opinions about those that do somewhere else..
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Sometimes saying nothing is better than saying something that makes you look like a fool. Sorry I have a low post count, I suppose since I have a low post count you think I am a anti-gun wacko?
Have you thought that instead of purposely aggitating this guy you could have suggested that he write an article about how popular the AR15's are? What did you really do by swearing at this guy? IMO you made him even more against AR's because you have pretty much shown him what his stereotype of an AR owner is. That is a irrational red neck! Sorry if I'm sounding harsh but what you did only hurt our cause. A couple more people like you and we can kiss what little rights we have left goodbye. We do not need to appologize for being a gun owner or owning AR's but we don't need to antagonize people for no reason other than trying to make yourself feel inportant. |
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Actual... Reelman is correct..When you have to resort to swearing to articulate your point, that's when most intelligent folks check out, cause they know it's all down hill... and since when did post count make you smarter or a expert on anything...  actually < ( spelling is correct ) , again I don't really care what you, or he or anyone else says...... My first email was polite....then he emails me back making my polite email out to be that of an "idiot" ....thats when I get irritated....so..if ya don't like what I said in my email to Larry ...P_ _ _ off ..... 
If post count does Not make you ( post count 4899 ) an expert or smarter, then WTF are you doing correcting me ?? 
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Quoted: Quoted: Actual... Reelman is correct..When you have to resort to swearing to articulate your point, that's when most intelligent folks check out, cause they know it's all down hill... and since when did post count make you smarter or a expert on anything... actually < ( spelling is correct ) , again I don't really care what you, or he or anyone else says...... My first email was polite....then he emails me back making my polite email out to be that of an "idiot" ....thats when I get irritated....so..if ya don't like what I said in my email to Larry ...P_ _ _ off ..... If post count does Not make you ( post count 4899 ) an expert or smarter, then WTF are you doing correcting me ?? Is your handle Saiga12GB to indicate your age? That seems to be the impression one gets from the complete lack of any self control in the emails you posted (apparently you needed a pat on the back?) and every other post you make. Perhaps Harv felt in a position to correct you not because of his post count, but because of the obvious disparity of maturity levels. |
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Actual... Reelman is correct..When you have to resort to swearing to articulate your point, that's when most intelligent folks check out, cause they know it's all down hill... and since when did post count make you smarter or a expert on anything... actually < ( spelling is correct ) , again I don't really care what you, or he or anyone else says...... My first email was polite....then he emails me back making my polite email out to be that of an "idiot" ....thats when I get irritated....so..if ya don't like what I said in my email to Larry ...P_ _ _ off .....
If post count does Not make you ( post count 4899 ) an expert or smarter, then WTF are you doing correcting me ??
Is your handle Saiga12GB to indicate your age? That seems to be the impression one gets from the complete lack of any self control in the emails you posted (apparently you needed a pat on the back?) and every other post you make. Perhaps Harv felt in a position to correct you not because of his post count, but because of the obvious disparity of maturity levels. Disparity of Maturity levels ?? wow], I feel like I am in the presence of the superior intellegent elite personalities of Afrcom , naaaaa just some smug online educated wanna be tough guys >>>> yup  . in am the only 12 year old , that bought a Krebs Custom Saiga12 tactical for $ 1200.00 and change......I think you all have maybe mistaken me for someone that cares 
I know it's really easy to be a online perfect person, high on your  & to pass judgement on others...but then again  Do what makes you happy... have a nice day.
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Actual... Reelman is correct..When you have to resort to swearing to articulate your point, that's when most intelligent folks check out, cause they know it's all down hill... and since when did post count make you smarter or a expert on anything... actually < ( spelling is correct ) , again I don't really care what you, or he or anyone else says...... My first email was polite....then he emails me back making my polite email out to be that of an "idiot" ....thats when I get irritated....so..if ya don't like what I said in my email to Larry ...P_ _ _ off .....
If post count does Not make you ( post count 4899 ) an expert or smarter, then WTF are you doing correcting me ??
Is your handle Saiga12GB to indicate your age? That seems to be the impression one gets from the complete lack of any self control in the emails you posted (apparently you needed a pat on the back?) and every other post you make. Perhaps Harv felt in a position to correct you not because of his post count, but because of the obvious disparity of maturity levels. Disparity of Maturity levels ?? wow], I feel like I am in the presence of the superior intellegent elite personalities of Afrcom , naaaaa just some smug online educated wanna be tough guys >>>> yup . in am the only 12 year old , that bought a Krebs Custom Saiga12 tactical for $ 1200.00 and change......I think you all have maybe mistaken me for someone that cares
I know it's really easy to be a online perfect person, high on your & to pass judgement on others...but then again Do what makes you happy... have a nice day.
Nope deifinitely could not mistake you for someone who cares, Because if you did you would know that once you start swearing trying to get your point across you have lost all high ground and might as well not even say anything. Instead of cussing at Larry I invited him out to the range with me and my AR's to see how versatile they really are and am awaiting a reply but doubt I will get one now. |
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Reelman is correct, Saiga. When you degenerate to swearing and bluster for gun righs, you, WE, lose.
His post count or join date doesn't matter. I've been here 4 years, but I have a relatively low post count cause I'm one of those quite types. Just ask anyone who's been at a hometown shoot with me. A better approach would have been to ask him if he'd ever tried to verify the "convert to a machine gun" thing himself instead of relying on hearsay from 35 years ago. Or even ask him how its done. Or just simply point out to him he was wrong on the conversion issue and explain why. Then explain to him how versatile it is, and would it be more acceptable in another color? |
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Actual... Reelman is correct..When you have to resort to swearing to articulate your point, that's when most intelligent folks check out, cause they know it's all down hill... and since when did post count make you smarter or a expert on anything... actually < ( spelling is correct ) , again I don't really care what you, or he or anyone else says...... My first email was polite....then he emails me back making my polite email out to be that of an "idiot" ....thats when I get irritated....so..if ya don't like what I said in my email to Larry ...P_ _ _ off .....
If post count does Not make you ( post count 4899 ) an expert or smarter, then WTF are you doing correcting me ??
Is your handle Saiga12GB to indicate your age? That seems to be the impression one gets from the complete lack of any self control in the emails you posted (apparently you needed a pat on the back?) and every other post you make. Perhaps Harv felt in a position to correct you not because of his post count, but because of the obvious disparity of maturity levels. Disparity of Maturity levels ?? wow], I feel like I am in the presence of the superior intellegent elite personalities of Afrcom , naaaaa just some smug online educated wanna be tough guys >>>> yup . in am the only 12 year old , that bought a Krebs Custom Saiga12 tactical for $ 1200.00 and change......I think you all have maybe mistaken me for someone that cares
I know it's really easy to be a online perfect person, high on your & to pass judgement on others...but then again Do what makes you happy... have a nice day.
Nope deifinitely could not mistake you for someone who cares, Because if you did you would know that once you start swearing trying to get your point across you have lost all high ground and might as well not even say anything. Instead of cussing at Larry I invited him out to the range with me and my AR's to see how versatile they really are and am awaiting a reply but doubt I will get one now. DON'T BLAME ME IF LARRY DON'T GO SHOOTING WITH YOU ... Remeber his negative anti AR15 Article was printed way before I chimed in on this & if ya read between the line in his article, he wouldn't have shot a AR15 or any other EBR if his life depended on it.. |
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Reelman is correct, Saiga. When you degenerate to swearing and bluster for gun righs, you, WE, lose. His post count or join date doesn't matter. I've been here 4 years, but I have a relatively low post count cause I'm one of those quite types. Just ask anyone who's been at a hometown shoot with me. A better approach would have been to ask him if he'd ever tried to verify the "convert to a machine gun" thing himself instead of relying on hearsay from 35 years ago. Or even ask him how its done. Or just simply point out to him he was wrong on the conversion issue and explain why. Then explain to him how versatile it is, and would it be more acceptable in another color? Maybe my approach or wording was wrong, but did the people correcting me, write him ? Because if you have enough time on your hands to slap my wrist with a ruler, then you should have have enough time to email Larry Fudd a corrective email regarding HIS Liberal anti Assault rifle article & then you could have asked him all those questions.. ..... 
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| I did not write him because I have not seen the article in question. Since larry seems to be bent on pointing out to people that they have not read the whole article so their response doesn't really count, I didn't write to him. However, its my standard practice to read something like this in its entirety and not the snips that people post before I do any letter writing. I don't have access to the entire article, so I won't write to him. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Reelman is correct, Saiga. When you degenerate to swearing and bluster for gun righs, you, WE, lose. His post count or join date doesn't matter. I've been here 4 years, but I have a relatively low post count cause I'm one of those quite types. Just ask anyone who's been at a hometown shoot with me. A better approach would have been to ask him if he'd ever tried to verify the "convert to a machine gun" thing himself instead of relying on hearsay from 35 years ago. Or even ask him how its done. Or just simply point out to him he was wrong on the conversion issue and explain why. Then explain to him how versatile it is, and would it be more acceptable in another color? Maybe my approach or wording was wrong, but did the people correcting me, write him ? Because if you have enough time on your hands to slap my wrist with a ruler, then you should have have enough time to email Larry Fudd a corrective email regarding HIS Liberal anti Assault rifle article & then you could have asked him all those questions.. ..... Yes, I did write him. However my tone was much different. I tried to explain how versatile an AR is, and that his demeanor hurts the gun community because it gives anti gun people standing when they can point to people like him and say, "See, even this gun owner doesn't like assault rifles." He apparently either didn't care because I'm not a subscriber, or was too angry to have a conversation after reading flippant emails from people he doesn't know, because he simply copied and pasted his previous reply and sent it back to me. |
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Saiga, In the future when you are trying to defend our rights please remember this line: It is better to keep your mouth shut and have someone think you are a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
And no I did not write him. I am not a subscriber nor from the Tomahawk area. If I were to write to every reporter who wrote a somewhat anti-gun article I would have nothing better to do then to sit and write Emails all day. |
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actually < ( spelling is correct ) , again I don't really care what you, or he or anyone else says...... My first email was polite....then he emails me back making my polite email out to be that of an "idiot" ....thats when I get irritated....so..if ya don't like what I said in my email to Larry ...P_ _ _ off .....
If post count does Not make you ( post count 4899 ) an expert or smarter, then WTF are you doing correcting me ?? Yup, I pegged you about right Hero... In the future. Please don't help me (or anyone else) defend our gun rights...It's already getting hard enough...
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Saiga12GB actually < ( spelling is correct ) , again I don't really care what you, or he or anyone else says...... My first email was polite....then he emails me back making my polite email out to be that of an "idiot" ....thats when I get irritated....so..if ya don't like what I said in my email to Larry ...P_ _ _ off .....
If post count does Not make you ( post count 4899 ) an expert or smarter, then WTF are you doing correcting me ?? Yup, I pegged you about right Hero... In the future. Please don't help me (or anyone else) defend our gun rights...It's already getting hard enough...
More reading and less posting would serve you well... Yup, I pegged you about right too ..Coc prevents me from posting it here......So, you must really think your gods gift to the gun rights movement , telling me what i can & cannot attempt to defend. you really need to step off that soap box of yours., before someone takes great pleasure in knocking that chip off your shoulder..... NO i am not perfect, but please stop making yourself out to be perfect & without imperfections. Geee whiz, I said this to you without using profanity........
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Saiga, In the future when you are trying to defend our rights please remember this line: It is better to keep your mouth shut and have someone think you are a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt! And no I did not write him. I am not a subscriber nor from the Tomahawk area. If I were to write to every reporter who wrote a somewhat anti-gun article I would have nothing better to do then to sit and write Emails all day.  
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