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3/28/2013 5:34:47 AM EDT
The 2013 trout season is in full swing and damn the fishing has been great




Original OP:

So lets go fishing.    Seriously we're all going to drop dead from high blood pressure and heart attacks unless we chill out a bit.    The state/country going to shit doesn't mean we should be removing all joy from our lives.   April 1st is around the corner, so dust off that light weight rod and go fishing with me.  









I've got extra rods is anyone wants one to use.  

This is not Arf Fish 2.0, that will come in october when the salmon show up.    This is just a friendly invitation to go fishing with me from april until I die
3/28/2013 5:40:18 AM EDT
[#1]
Maybe I should give fishing another shot... my old man took all the joy out of it for me as a kid and I haven't fished since.
3/28/2013 5:43:16 AM EDT
[#2]
Sounds like fun, haven't been in ages. Where & when?
3/28/2013 5:57:52 AM EDT
[#3]
I  took  a  little  kayak  adventure  up  a  small  northern  river  last  summer ( which  will   remain  un-named )  and  flushed  out  a  pair  of  river  otters ( usually  a  sign of  good  fishing ) . There  were  SCHOOLS  of  trout  moving  out  from  the  bow  of  my  boat . One  such  fish  dry  docked  himself  while  jumping  for  a  bug (  landed  on  a  log  and  had  to  flop  himself  back  into  the  wetness . ) Truly  a  " target  rich "  environment .  
3/28/2013 6:04:04 AM EDT
[#4]
I will be on Grout Brook April 1st-7th.  After then I am up for whatever/wherever.
3/28/2013 6:08:32 AM EDT
[#5]
Well I live just outside syracuse, but I fish all over the place.  

Typically I fish ninemile creek but I'll go fish with you guys if you have a favorite creek.   I'm not sure about you guys but I've been stuck inside with a baby and wife so I'm dying to get outdoors to cast a line.
3/28/2013 6:12:18 AM EDT
[#6]
Right there with you. Every time I walk by my canoe or my fly rods they are just begging me to go outside.


3/28/2013 6:14:57 AM EDT
[#7]


I love bass fishing with a fly rod.  

Also if anyone is interested you guys are welcome to join me in my quest to catch a walleye on a fly rod at night.    I only tried twice last year and got nada on the fly, lost two but thats pretty bad for me.  

Its fun fly fishing at night so long as you don't hook yourself
3/28/2013 6:48:35 AM EDT
[#8]
I thought trout are open year round to first barrier impassable by fish.
3/28/2013 6:54:53 AM EDT
[#9]
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I thought trout are open year round to first barrier impassable by fish.


yes, but that is migrating fish.  I'm talking about getting out on local streams for browns, rainbows and brookies.  

3/28/2013 7:34:05 AM EDT
[#10]
We'll have to start a Hudson Valley / Catskills chapter.
3/28/2013 7:39:53 AM EDT
[#11]
I love fishing. It's like yoga...except I get to kill stuff!
3/28/2013 8:17:04 AM EDT
[#12]
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We'll have to start a Hudson Valley / Catskills chapter.


I'll go down there, I haven't been in a long while.    Would you give a fellow arfcommer a tour?     I'll bring beer
3/28/2013 8:24:18 AM EDT
[#13]
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We'll have to start a Hudson Valley / Catskills chapter.


I'll go down there, I haven't been in a long while.    Would you give a fellow arfcommer a tour?     I'll bring beer


Absolutely, but I'll provide the beer. You'll be wholly disappointed in my skills as a fishing guide. Well, there is a stream that goes right by my house, we catch crawdads in it.
3/28/2013 8:30:40 AM EDT
[#14]
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We'll have to start a Hudson Valley / Catskills chapter.


I'll go down there, I haven't been in a long while.    Would you give a fellow arfcommer a tour?     I'll bring beer


Absolutely, but I'll provide the beer. You'll be wholly disappointed in my skills as a fishing guide. Well, there is a stream that goes right by my house, we catch crawdads in it.


I would do that, my brother and I used to do that all the time as kids.  
3/28/2013 8:44:33 AM EDT
[#15]
pardon my ignorance, but what kind of bait do you recommend for trout in april?  (not a fly fisherman)
3/28/2013 8:48:03 AM EDT
[#16]
I used to fish Ninemile when I went to Syracuse.
Early April only paraleps (blue quills) were out.
It's still damn cold up there for good hatches.

Maybe a steelie at Trestle?  
3/28/2013 8:52:28 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I used to fish Ninemile when I went to Syracuse.
Early April only paraleps (blue quills) were out.
It's still damn cold up there for good hatches.

Maybe a steelie at Trestle?  


you come up this way we'll go for steel
3/28/2013 8:52:56 AM EDT
[#18]
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pardon my ignorance, but what kind of bait do you recommend for trout in april?  (not a fly fisherman)


pink worm is the shit

3/28/2013 9:48:18 AM EDT
[#19]
Ciraxis

Have you fished for Atlantics on the Salmon River?
3/28/2013 10:00:04 AM EDT
[#20]
Where is a good place to buy a fly rod. My parents have acreage on the saranac river, but I've only ever tried fishing with a normal rod and reel.  And I only catch little fish with that.

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3/28/2013 10:02:36 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Ciraxis

Have you fished for Atlantics on the Salmon River?


yes, caught this one in mid June



3/28/2013 10:02:58 AM EDT
[#22]
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Where is a good place to buy a fly rod. My parents have acreage on the saranac river, but I've only ever tried fishing with a normal rod and reel.  And I only catch little fish with that.

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where do you live?

3/28/2013 10:08:29 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Well I live just outside syracuse, but I fish all over the place.  

Typically I fish ninemile creek but I'll go fish with you guys if you have a favorite creek.   I'm not sure about you guys but I've been stuck inside with a baby and wife so I'm dying to get outdoors to cast a line.


You do any lake fishing? I like my northern Pike up in Erie.... seems like you prefer the streams though
3/28/2013 10:21:35 AM EDT
[#24]
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Well I live just outside syracuse, but I fish all over the place.  

Typically I fish ninemile creek but I'll go fish with you guys if you have a favorite creek.   I'm not sure about you guys but I've been stuck inside with a baby and wife so I'm dying to get outdoors to cast a line.


You do any lake fishing? I like my northern Pike up in Erie.... seems like you prefer the streams though


I love all fishing.  
3/28/2013 10:58:15 AM EDT
[#25]
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Where is a good place to buy a fly rod. My parents have acreage on the saranac river, but I've only ever tried fishing with a normal rod and reel.  And I only catch little fish with that.

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where do you live?



Albany.

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3/28/2013 10:58:28 AM EDT
[#26]
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Where is a good place to buy a fly rod. My parents have acreage on the saranac river, but I've only ever tried fishing with a normal rod and reel.  And I only catch little fish with that.

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From where you live in Albany I'd take a run out to Vermont, It's not far over the Rensselaer county line into Vermont.  A nice day trip and if you feel like a big spender you can get lessons.  

You often can get a much lower price on Orvis stuff at their factory store in Vermont.   They had Orvis and Redding (when they bought them out) gear at their main store and their little store across from a snooty hotel.   Bargain prices on Demos, Closeouts, and Returns.   I bought a couple when I lived near.  Unfortunately I'm a clumsy ox who does best drifting nymphs in riffles as opposed to the classic light landed dry fly.

I picked up a couple 4w rods in the little store.   They're cheap compared to the catalog.   Of course you could also get a normal beginner fly kit like a Cortland or Shakespeare like a lot of beginners do.  Not a bad idea if you're not sure you want to fish this way.   I probably spend 40% more on the discounted Orvis gear than a ordinary starter kit.  

I'm not a fishing rod snob by anymeans it was just a target of opportunity when I lived 40 min from the factory.  My first rods wer a Tel True hardware store fiberglas rod  and a Sears Ted Williams Rod that were my grandfathers.   (I am generally a buy once cry once type of guy though)


Heck I think they they have a Spring/Summer factory lawn sale too.  I just about stole some brand new light waders because they ran too short.  Convenient because I also run short.
3/28/2013 11:37:39 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
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Where is a good place to buy a fly rod. My parents have acreage on the saranac river, but I've only ever tried fishing with a normal rod and reel.  And I only catch little fish with that.

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From where you live in Albany I'd take a run out to Vermont, It's not far over the Rensselaer county line into Vermont.  A nice day trip and if you feel like a big spender you can get lessons.  

You often can get a much lower price on Orvis stuff at their factory store in Vermont.   They had Orvis and Redding (when they bought them out) gear at their main store and their little store across from a snooty hotel.   Bargain prices on Demos, Closeouts, and Returns.   I bought a couple when I lived near.  Unfortunately I'm a clumsy ox who does best drifting nymphs in riffles as opposed to the classic light landed dry fly.

I picked up a couple 4w rods in the little store.   They're cheap compared to the catalog.   Of course you could also get a normal beginner fly kit like a Cortland or Shakespeare like a lot of beginners do.  Not a bad idea if you're not sure you want to fish this way.   I probably spend 40% more on the discounted Orvis gear than a ordinary starter kit.  

I'm not a fishing rod snob by anymeans it was just a target of opportunity when I lived 40 min from the factory.  My first rods wer a Tel True hardware store fiberglas rod  and a Sears Ted Williams Rod that were my grandfathers.   (I am generally a buy once cry once type of guy though)


Heck I think they they have a Spring/Summer factory lawn sale too.  I just about stole some brand new light waders because they ran too short.  Convenient because I also run short.


this is great advice.   I'm no gear snob either.   You honestly don't need to be, its a lot like shooting the high priced gear is nicer and works great but other stuff will still get the job done.   Orvis is a great company, so is temple fork (lifetime no fault warranty)

If you ever get out to auburn I can stop in bass pro with you and show up different rods.  I'm no guide and no pro but I catch fish and know what I like.  
3/28/2013 12:00:40 PM EDT
[#28]
ETA- the guys in the main store were very helpful and knowledgeable as you would expect.  Obviously they saw me as a tyro and helped me choose some nice stuff for my price range and didn't try to oversell me.  Guy out and out told me the reel is the most overated thing on a fly rod, all it does is hold line unless you're into the big fish like salmon and tarpon.  The basic reel was fine for my forays for the normal 12-15" trout.   They also found me a demo rod that was on their big rack in the store for a year then replaced with a new color.  

In the little store a mile down the road in the village in an old timey store front was their bargain place.  I was looking for a pack rod and they dug in their stash out back for 45 minutes until they found me a 4weight midflex 4 pc rod for backpacking.   This is also the place to buy gadgets, lines and leaders and such.

The guys there know their stuff of course too, so I wouldn't hesitate to go their first to get stuff.  I bought my first rod at the big store as I didn't know about the little store in the village.   They little store sells the returns and overstocks and may not have exactly what you're looking for, they tend to sell the normal stuff fast and the outliers can sit.  You can find a nice heavy salmon rod there pretty easily from my experience.   Just keep in mind the rod size (length and weight) and what is appropriate or what you'd prefer in rod flex rate.  (Full, Mid, and tip flex are the three normal options if I'm not mistaken, it's where the rod bends the most; a full would flex over the whole rod, a mid would flex mostly from the middle to the tip, and a tip flex would flex mostly at the tip.  Ask  Ciraxis on the how's and whys but a Mid flex probably is a good place to start.  A mid flex 5w would be what I'd expect for a starter rod.  

spellun is herd

I wish I put more time into using them.
3/28/2013 12:14:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Now in full disclosure I fish 90% of the time for bass  with my fly rod so gear is a little less critical.  I am cheap and just can't see spending a ton of money on gear.  Not saying that more expensive gear isn't better just that I am not good enough to notice the difference.

I don't have any fancy gear.   I have a couple of Eagle Claw rods from Walmart I think one was $20 and the other $30.  One is a shorter fiberglass rod  and the other is longer and graphite.  My reel is an ancient Martin I have had forever.  You don't need to spend a ton of money.   Rarely is my gear the issue with whether I am catching fish or not.

I also make my own leaders using this method: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs

3/28/2013 1:25:46 PM EDT
[#30]
I don't think there's any good fishing near me.  The Susquehanna is full of STD's and homeless people poop.



3/28/2013 1:48:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
So lets go fishing.  This is just a friendly invitation to go fishing with me from april until I die


Ok.  I don't have to work on April 1st.  
3/28/2013 2:17:32 PM EDT
[#32]



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Where is a good place to buy a fly rod. My parents have acreage on the saranac river, but I've only ever tried fishing with a normal rod and reel.  And I only catch little fish with that.



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From where you live in Albany I'd take a run out to Vermont, It's not far over the Rensselaer county line into Vermont.  A nice day trip and if you feel like a big spender you can get lessons.  



You often can get a much lower price on Orvis stuff at their factory store in Vermont.   They had Orvis and Redding (when they bought them out) gear at their main store and their little store across from a snooty hotel.   Bargain prices on Demos, Closeouts, and Returns.   I bought a couple when I lived near.  Unfortunately I'm a clumsy ox who does best drifting nymphs in riffles as opposed to the classic light landed dry fly.



I picked up a couple 4w rods in the little store.   They're cheap compared to the catalog.   Of course you could also get a normal beginner fly kit like a Cortland or Shakespeare like a lot of beginners do.  Not a bad idea if you're not sure you want to fish this way.   I probably spend 40% more on the discounted Orvis gear than a ordinary starter kit.  



I'm not a fishing rod snob by anymeans it was just a target of opportunity when I lived 40 min from the factory.  My first rods wer a Tel True hardware store fiberglas rod  and a Sears Ted Williams Rod that were my grandfathers.   (I am generally a buy once cry once type of guy though)





Heck I think they they have a Spring/Summer factory lawn sale too.  I just about stole some brand new light waders because they ran too short.  Convenient because I also run short.




this is great advice.   I'm no gear snob either.   You honestly don't need to be, its a lot like shooting the high priced gear is nicer and works great but other stuff will still get the job done.   Orvis is a great company, so is temple fork (lifetime no fault warranty)



If you ever get out to auburn I can stop in bass pro with you and show up different rods.  I'm no guide and no pro but I catch fish and know what I like.  


Cool I think I'll try taking a run out to the store in VT and see if I can get set up with something.  If that falls through I might take you up on the offer Ciraxis since my level of fishing is a rod and reel and tossing it out and reeling it in.  I haven't a clue about flex and what not.  I'm out in the Syracuse once a month or so for work anyways.



Thanks for all the good advice.



 
3/28/2013 2:20:11 PM EDT
[#33]
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I don't think there's any good fishing near me.  The Susquehanna is full of STD's and homeless people poop.





There  are   some  nice  fish  in  the  S.  Otselic ( Cincinnatus north ) or  the  Geneganslet  ( Smithville Flats  north )  .  Both  are  well  stocked  and  are  big  enough  that  many  survive  beyond  the  first  year .  Neither  of  these  could  compare  to
some  of  the  places  Ciraxis  may  frequent , but  they  do  have  some  nice  , catchable  trout .
3/28/2013 5:10:40 PM EDT
[#34]
I've always wanted to fish the  Otselic
3/28/2013 5:57:07 PM EDT
[#35]
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I've always wanted to fish the  Otselic


I  think  the  best  access  to  the  good  fishing  is  to  launch  a kayak  at  the  south  end  of  Cincinnatus  and  run  it  through  to  the  bridge  in  Willet ( 4  miles ,maybe  5 ) . I  don't  really  like  fishing  from  a  kayak , but  it's  the  best  way  to  
see  the  entire  river .
3/28/2013 6:24:24 PM EDT
[#36]
i haven't fished the Otselic in about 5-6 years. used to fish it all the time after work with my fly rod(only about 3 miles from it), never got any real big ones but they all fought good and lived to be caught another day. maybe this year I'll get over to it and try fly fishing again.
3/28/2013 6:24:59 PM EDT
[#37]
I'm in. I love fishing but am not too good at it.
3/28/2013 8:37:49 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
I've always wanted to fish the  Otselic


Might be on the South branch on Sunday, I'll let you know
3/29/2013 3:11:52 AM EDT
[#39]
I'm about 35 miles East of Syracuse,and  I plan to be out fishing the Oriskany Creek come April. I dabbled in fly fishing but mostly stick to ultralite spinning rods. I have drove by the Otselic on my way to my sisters house in Marathon,always meant to stop but never have.
3/29/2013 4:33:50 AM EDT
[#40]
Looks like I won't be getting any time off to fish next week, we're booked solid

its a good thing though.    

I'll still be heading out on weekends and in the afternoons.   I think may is the better month anyways.
3/29/2013 4:42:16 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I'm in. I love fishing but am not too good at it.


They  say  a  bad  day  fishing  is  always  nicer  than  a  good  day  working .
3/29/2013 6:36:50 AM EDT
[#42]
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Looks like I won't be getting any time off to fish next week, we're booked solid

its a good thing though.    

I'll still be heading out on weekends and in the afternoons.   I think may is the better month anyways.


Well that smells like income!  

I agree May is always better, less freezing of the rod's eyelets.  

4/2/2013 6:30:07 AM EDT
[#43]
any body go out in this lovely snowy april weather?

I think I have strep throat so I'm not going out any time soon
4/2/2013 6:43:49 AM EDT
[#44]
I'd like to join you, its been and will be very busy this month!
4/2/2013 12:27:50 PM EDT
[#45]
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I'd like to join you, its been and will be very busy this month!




Geez Ciraxis, I hope you get better.  

FP, you packing for the move yet?
4/8/2013 4:52:26 AM EDT
[#46]
I'm finally over my week and a half long soar throat virus crap  I hardly ever get sick but damn that was bad.

anyways anyone been out yet?     I'm going to try and get out one afternoon this week, let me know when you guys plan on fishing
4/8/2013 6:35:01 AM EDT
[#47]
i havnt been fly fishing in years,,,   i should dust off the vest and waiters and get back at it.  
4/9/2013 7:19:11 AM EDT
[#48]
went out with my dad yesterday for an hour, its all the time I had free

caught trout but it was slow for us, but those days happen.   I need to tie flies I guess because my box was pretty empty, I'm usually good about having it well stocked.
4/15/2013 4:30:04 AM EDT
[#49]
Anyone been out fishing?   Local creeks look blow out
4/28/2013 12:16:47 PM EDT
[#50]
fishing was awesome today, great weather and ridiculous fishing
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