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4/12/2010 1:13:49 PM EDT
Hello from the USA.
I have a few questions about the UK.
As I understand, the UK is made up of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales at least according to the web.
Does the UK work as the USA does when it comes to laws? Example in the US each of the 50 states has its own laws and no other state is bound to any other states laws, but the Federal Government has its own laws and these laws must be followed by all 50 states.
Does the UK use the EURO or do they go with the British pound?
What is the purpose of the UK, why was it established?

Thanks
4/12/2010 1:39:55 PM EDT
[#1]
All four countries have their own parliaments or assemblies, and some of their own laws, but primary laws, or legislation fall to the English parliament.
We use the pound sterling.
I have no idea why we have the UK.
Give ireland back to the irish, cut the northern savages off, then they can live on the north sea oil revenue, which we could give them back.They can also have their MP,s back too.
Who gives a toss about the welsh....bloody sheepshaggers.
Sorted. Then the english could live happily with all the other nations who now claim to be English.

Any room in your country ?
Fancy a lodger ?
4/12/2010 1:40:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Hello from the USA.
I have a few questions about the UK.
As I understand, the UK is made up of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales at least according to the web. The Irish Republic is seperate.
Does the UK work as the USA does when it comes to laws? Example in the US each of the 50 states has its own laws and no other state is bound to any other states laws, but the Federal Government has its own laws and these laws must be followed by all 50 states. Sort of but not as much as USA. For example, firearms law is different in Northern Ireland.
Does the UK use the EURO or do they go with the British pound? The British pound.

What is the purpose of the UK, why was it established? Not sure on the history of that.

Thanks


4/12/2010 2:08:16 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
All four countries have their own parliaments or assemblies, and some of their own laws, but primary laws, or legislation fall to the English parliament.
We use the pound sterling.
I have no idea why we have the UK.
Give ireland back to the irish, cut the northern savages off, then they can live on the north sea oil revenue, which we could give them back.They can also have their MP,s back too.
Who gives a toss about the welsh....bloody sheepshaggers.
Sorted. Then the english could live happily with all the other nations who now claim to be English.

Any room in your country ? Yes we have room, but only room for people who will follow our Constitution and not try to change it to make it more "fair."
Fancy a lodger ?
 Yes we have room, but only room for people who will follow our Constitution and not try to change it to make it more "fair."
I am not sure what a "lodger" is

4/12/2010 2:10:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
All four countries have their own parliaments or assemblies, and some of their own laws, but primary laws, or legislation fall to the English parliament.
We use the pound sterling.
I have no idea why we have the UK.
Give ireland back to the irish, cut the northern savages off, then they can live on the north sea oil revenue, which we could give them back.They can also have their MP,s back too.
Who gives a toss about the welsh....bloody sheepshaggers.
Sorted. Then the english could live happily with all the other nations who now claim to be English.

Any room in your country ?
Fancy a lodger ?


As I understand it, North Sea Oil is in international waters. It is merely piped to Scotland for storage/refining.  I was reading somewhere about the economic impact of Scottish Independance and given the lack of tax income provided by the the Scottish nation were they to go independant, it is my understanding that the oil industries would be so heavily taxed that it would make more economic sense to move south of the border for lower taxes.  Furthermore the oil fields are a finite resource, and Scotland could not sustain itself without some very creative industrial renewal.

I may be wrong but that's as I understand it at the moment.
4/12/2010 10:13:35 PM EDT
[#5]
I,m being faecetious Funky.
Its the first thing the ginger piss stinkers bleat about when we moan about them.
Seriously now, i wish they would give Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland , Devolution....completely. We then wouldn,t require their politics, or politicians.
4/12/2010 10:49:58 PM EDT
[#6]
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I,m being faecetious Funky.




4/13/2010 1:30:42 AM EDT
[#7]
The United Kingdom is the name given to... well, the union between the various kingdoms. I think the full term would be the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", with "Great Britain" referring to the main island itself which includes England, Scotland, Wales and Surrey.

Wales was not a country, it was a principality (which is why Charles is the Prince of Wales) though this distinction is not really recognised anymore and it is treated as a country. Northern Ireland is a Province and now has a Secretary of State as the chief minister (previously it had a Governor, and prior to that there was a Lord Lieutenant who acted in the capacity of Viceroy). Scotland is perhaps best known for it's production of one-eyed short-fused mentally unbalanced unelected idiots and also what the Americans may refer to as "active shooters".

Oh and to answer an unanswered question, when a homeowner rents a room in their own house to someone, that someone is a 'lodger'.

4/13/2010 1:42:02 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Hello from the USA.
I have a few questions about the UK.
As I understand, the UK is made up of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales at least according to the web.
Thanks


Basically, all the money and jobs are in England, and England has to support all the unemployed in Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
4/13/2010 2:03:51 AM EDT
[#9]
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"Great Britain" referring to the main island itself which includes England, Scotland, Wales and Surrey.


4/13/2010 2:10:55 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I,m being faecetious Funky.
Its the first thing the ginger piss stinkers bleat about when we moan about them.
Seriously now, i wish they would give Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland , Devolution....completely. We then wouldn,t require their politics, or politicians.


Or to keep giving them money.

I don't really have a problem with the Irish and Welsh, they seem far less vociferous than the Scots.   Our cousins North of the border, however, have voted in a complete tossrag in for form of Alex Salmond who is hell bent on destroying Scotland and milking as much money out of the UK as possible.  In fact you can add half the current Labour Goobermint to that category as well.  Scotland is a socialist country for the most part.

What I want to know is why they get to vote on where our money is spent and what laws we have to abide by as Englishmen, but we have no say on what laws they have to abide by or how OUR money (that they have just donated themselves from our taxes) is spent in their country.

Well, I suspect that the reason is Labour have tried to ensure their Government is sustained is by ensuring that the traditionally labour strongholds of Scotland remain part of Westminster, because without them they would not have a majority. You may also remember when Labour got in after Major they set out to change the representive areas of MPs in labours marginal seats......  Areas where there was a risk of a conservative victory at the next election were suddenly partnered up with labour strongolds to try and swing the majority to the left......

Take for example that waste of oxygen, Phil Woolas MP our very own Immigration Minister.... He presides over Saddleworth (a traditionally low populated semi-rural and relatively wealthy area with strong Tory undercurrents). After the General Election that saw labour get into  power he suddenly became the MP for Saddleworth and the very densly populated labour stronghold of Oldham East.  

Now, Oldham East encompasses a traditionally very strong Labour vote, and also sports one of the largest Asian communities in the North West Region.  Since that time, Labour have had a very open immigration policy (Jack Straw only recently said he didn't see a problem with  a UK population of 75 million through immigration (more than twice the sustainable population level of the UK) meaning that for those wanting to encourage relatives in foreign lands to live in Britain, Labour have been the party they would vote for.

It also means that those people who live in those traditionally tory areas have effectively been unable to obtain the MP they want because their vote has been diluted by the Labour vote.

Call me cynical.
4/13/2010 2:38:17 AM EDT
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What is the purpose of the UKUS, why was it established?

Thanks


4/13/2010 2:59:47 AM EDT
[#12]
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What is the purpose of the UKUS, why was it established?

Thanks




Well it started with this guy named after a car. He went to a tea party at an address in Gettysburg and then the next day he told everyone "I have a dream" and it was about having four-score and seven fathers and a mother called Liberty who was judged on the contents of her handbag, not it's colour, which is just really trippy if you ask me. At least, I think that's what happened. I wasn't there at the time, but a friend of a friend of a friend swears blind it's true.
4/13/2010 3:01:01 AM EDT
[#13]
We might shag sheep in Cymru but we do get free prescriptions. Anyway, I'm not Welsh through and through, I'm half English half Welsh, all British.
4/13/2010 4:08:37 AM EDT
[#14]
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Well, I suspect that the reason is Labour have tried to ensure their Government is sustained is by ensuring that the traditionally labour strongholds of Scotland remain part of Westminster, because without them they would not have a majority. You may also remember when Labour got in after Major they set out to change the representive areas of MPs in labours marginal seats......  Areas where there was a risk of a conservative victory at the next election were suddenly partnered up with labour strongolds to try and swing the majority to the left......



Your suspicions are correct - Labour does not want Scotland to break away from the UK; as without it they wouldn't have a majority - and their beloved leader would be out of a job!

4/13/2010 6:26:54 AM EDT
[#15]

Thanks for all the info everyone, the UK is rather complex and it sounds like a good subject to dive into, anyone have a recomendation of a good book that explains the politics of the UK?

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What is the purpose of the UKUS, why was it established?

Thanks




I think we all know the answer to this question, The Land of the Free, and I will say thank you to your forefathers for this. Both the tyrants and your courageous fathers who helped make it possible.
We will continue to be free if we can beat these damn socialists, marxist, communists, progressives back down the hole to hell that they came from.