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Posted: 8/10/2024 12:28:40 AM EDT
Been out of the buying/selling game for like a decade now - but looking to sell my SBR, Glock 43, and some ar mags, but no clue what the actual current guidelines are. Doesn't help that it seems to change on a daily basis. Asked a dude at the Big Top Kitsap show a couple weeks ago but didn't get much actual info.
So questions are: can you even do a private transfer of an AR/SBR now? If so, do you need anything special for an SBR? (Does the buyer need to get a form for it to? Or does it transfer with the gun?) Any limitations on selling a G43? And can you sell pre-ban 30rnd mags? So fucking confused.
Link Posted: 8/10/2024 2:59:47 AM EDT
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You can only sell the AR and 30rd out of state though an FFL, or transfer to family under some circumstances

G43 can transfer through an FFL with what is now a ten day wait
Link Posted: 8/11/2024 1:14:54 AM EDT
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I feel safer already.
Link Posted: 8/11/2024 9:17:31 AM EDT
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IIRC SBRs follow Federal Law only.

EDIT  So that would mean the buyer has to fill out a Form 4, send it in to ATF, then the Form 4 comes to you as the seller; and you can then compete the transaction.  

Link Posted: 8/11/2024 2:39:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FS-FNRL:
IIRC SBRs follow Federal Law only.

EDIT  So that would mean the buyer has to fill out a Form 4, send it in to ATF, then the Form 4 comes to you as the seller; and you can then compete the transaction.  

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Both state and local laws have to be met. If the SBR is an "assault weapon" no dice
Link Posted: 8/11/2024 7:38:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
Both state and local laws have to be met. If the SBR is an "assault weapon" no dice
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That's not entirely clear with SBRs. Allegedly some FFLs are still selling them, apparently relying on RCW 9.41.190.

There's a Reddit thread on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/1ekdcqn/rcw_941190/
Link Posted: 8/12/2024 9:56:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Boatswain:


That's not entirely clear with SBRs. Allegedly some FFLs are still selling them, apparently relying on RCW 9.41.190.

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(1) Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to:
(a) Manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle;
(b) Manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle;
(c) Assemble or repair any machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or
(d) Manufacture, cause to be manufactured, assemble, or cause to be assembled, an untraceable firearm with the intent to sell the untraceable firearm.
(2) It is not unlawful for a person to manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, assemble, or repair, or have in possession or under control, a short-barreled rifle, or any part designed or intended solely and exclusively for use in a short-barreled rifle or in converting a weapon into a short-barreled rifle, if the person is in compliance with applicable federal law.

Only the best & the brightest get elected, right? FFS, Olympia.
Link Posted: 8/12/2024 10:27:12 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the responses, much appreciated!

Guess I'll just keep all this shit for a while longer.
Link Posted: 8/13/2024 12:17:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Boatswain:


That's not entirely clear with SBRs. Allegedly some FFLs are still selling them, apparently relying on RCW 9.41.190.

There's a Reddit thread on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/1ekdcqn/rcw_941190/
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Originally Posted By Boatswain:
Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
Both state and local laws have to be met. If the SBR is an "assault weapon" no dice


That's not entirely clear with SBRs. Allegedly some FFLs are still selling them, apparently relying on RCW 9.41.190.

There's a Reddit thread on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/1ekdcqn/rcw_941190/


Already answered with RCW input, but here’s real experience.

AR based SBRs are being denied by ATF. We had a customer that missed the ban deadline by 2 days denied by the ATF based on WA state law.
Link Posted: 8/13/2024 1:20:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By toothlessjoe:
Thanks for all the responses, much appreciated!

Guess I'll just keep all this shit for a while longer.
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If it's an AR and you are trying to get cash for it, you can sell all the parts, the upper, the stock, even the trigger. Then just keep the stripped lower receiver.

The other way is a trip to Idaho and sell to a dealer there.
Link Posted: 8/21/2024 3:15:19 AM EDT
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Selling it to a dealer would rape you since they have to make a profit.
Link Posted: 8/21/2024 10:13:47 PM EDT
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What if I identify as an ID resident?
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