Posted: 12/2/2008 9:53:46 AM EDT
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because of the terrorists in mumbai I am thinking of replacing an old SKS in the trunk for something that looks a bit less AK like
I'd prefer a semiauto that can be loaded quickly - so I don't get in any trouble having a loaded rifle in the vehicle. But if it came down to it I could load a tube fed lever action fast enough I hope any suggestions? anyone else thinking of changing/getting a truck/trunk gun since the terrorists attack? |
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Interesting post. I've been thinking of the ramifications of the attacks as well. My trunk gun is a 16" AR. My wife and I were discussing the fact that you might need a rifle in a hotel. I never took it in because I always worry more about the cleaning crews then people breaking into my car and defeating the lock on the gun. Mrs. King said, "Well the uzi fits that role nicely. It's easy to carry in and out without attracting attention." So now wherever we travel I'll be carrying the uzi along.
I think another interesting aspect is what were the terrorists trying to accomplish, did they achieve their goals, and are there more productive ways of achieving the same goals. Arguably the most successful act of revolutionary terror was the June 1914 assassination of the Archduke Francis Ferdinand in Sarajevo.
Believing his mission to murder the heir to the Austrian throne had failed, Gavrilo Princip suddenly found himself standing a few feet away from the royal car. He fired twice, mortally wounding the archduke and his wife. Tactically, that act of terror eliminated the reformist Ferdinand, who meant to address the grievances of his Slav subjects by granting them greater autonomy and equality with Austrians and Hungarians inside the empire. Strategically, the assassination succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of its Black Hand plotters. Hard-liners in Austria demanded an ultimatum to Serbia. When her demands were not met in full, Vienna declared war. Czar Nicholas mobilized in support of Russia's little Slav brothers. The German Kaiser ordered mobilization. When the French refused to declare neutrality, Germany declared war. In hours, the British Cabinet had reversed itself to back war with Germany on behalf of Belgium and France. Princip had lit the fuse that set off in six weeks the greatest war in history. While Serbia suffered per capita losses as great as any other nation, she ended the Great War as the lead nation in a Kingdom of the South Slavs embracing Slovenes, Croats, Bosnians, Albanians, Montenegrins, Macedonians and Hungarians. The Habsburg Empire at which Princip had struck had vanished. Last week's Mumbai massacre seems a similar triumph of terror. Tactically, by sending a platoon of suicide warriors into India's financial capital, terrorizing a train station, two five-star hotels and a Jewish center, and killing 183 over 60 hours, the plotters assured themselves of round-the-clock worldwide television coverage. In so riveting the world's attention for four days, this atrocity was a success. And by using Pakistanis to perpetrate the massacres and Karachi as port of embarkation, the plotters focused India's rage exactly where they want it, against Pakistan. By this slaughter in India's commercial capital, the Islamists have destroyed the detente Pakistan was seeking with India and pushed both toward war. Out to murder moderation and stoke militancy, the terrorists succeeded. Years ago, this writer observed: "Terrorism is a tactic, a technique, a weapon that fanatics, dictators and warriors have resorted to through history. If, as Clausewitz wrote, war is the continuation of politics by other means, terrorism is the continuation of war by other means." Yet terrorism - the killing of innocents for political ends - can triumph only if the aggrieved play the role the terror masters have scripted for them in their bloody drama. What, then, may we surmise are the tactical and strategic goals of the terror masters of Mumbai? To humiliate, wound and outrage India in her pride as a great new democratic and economic power in Asia. To imperil Mumbai's future as a safe and secure financial capital in which to live, work and invest. To awe the world and inspire Islam's young by their audacity. To attain immortality. But the strategic target of the militants is the Pakistani government. Pakistan's offenses? Cooperating with America in Afghanistan and the border region, battling al Qaeda and the Taliban, withdrawing from the fight for Kashmir, seeking peace with a Hindu nation where 170 million Muslims are denied their place in the sun. President Bush should pray New Delhi does not adopt his Bush Doctrine of preventive war or the Cheney Doctrine: "Even if there's just a 1 percent chance of the unimaginable coming due, act as if it is a certainty." For war in the subcontinent between India and Pakistan would be a calamity and a triumph for the terrorists across what Carter's National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski has called the "Global Balkans." War would pit two nuclear powers against each other for the first time since the Sino-Soviet border clash of 1969. It would spawn bloodshed between Muslim and Hindu in India. It would see the collapse of Pakistan, its possible dissolution and a military dictator in a nation already divided against itself over whether to continue resisting al Qaeda and the Taliban, or cut ties to the unpopular Americans. Wounded and enraged by the atrocities of 9/11, America lashed out, first at Afghanistan and the al Qaeda source of the conspiracy, then at Iraq, which had nothing to do with the attacks. Thus did the Bush administration disunite its nation and forfeit its mandate. For India to lash out at a Pakistan that was not complicit in the Mumbai crimes against humanity, but harbors elements within that are guilty and are celebrating, would be as great a mistake. India and Pakistan both have a vital interest in no new war. But a new war is exactly what the terrorists killed for and died for. Should it come, they win - and enter history as revolutionary terrorists alongside Princip and the perpetrators of 9/11. Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War." This article appeared on page B - 7 of the San Francisco Chronicle |
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...To imperil Mumbai's future as a safe and secure financial capital in which to live, work and invest. To awe the world and inspire Islam's young by their audacity...
Substitute Mumbai for New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Miami and it will make you think of what if...and now that trunk gun doesn't seem so silly. 7mm |
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I say an AR of your choice in the trunk How do you keep it from rusting? Service it once a month, just like a daily carry piece. I have a 14.5" with a Pinned Vortex M4 as my truck gun. It has a removable carry handle with a 2 power Acog bolted into the Carry Handle. A Surefire Light on the forearm and a Vickers Sling. Overall it's the best and simplest solution to the issue that this weapon may need to get me out of a tight spot. A thought on AR's vs. other weapons as go-to guns in urban environments. The next time you are in a hotel, shopping center, hell, even Wal-Mart. Imagine the longest shot that you would have to make in that area. These places are a helluva lot bigger when you think about making long shots. Not that you would, but if you are already carrying a truck gun then that means that you should be mentally prepared to engage in these areas if some shit like what down in India goes down here. just my 0.02 |
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I say an AR of your choice in the trunk How do you keep it from rusting? Same way you keep it from not rusting when stored anywhere else. Keep it clean, keep it properly lubed. Keep it in an appropriate case and if you want throw some desiccant packs in the case. I also paint my rifles so that helps a bit. I keep this in the trunk: Eagle rig in case Scroll to the bottom to see the discreet carry case. The weapon is a SBR. In the bag ready to go I keep one mag in the gun (bolt closed on empty chamber), four mags in the case pockets and three more mags on the chest rig. I also have two pistol mags on the chest rig and a med kit. The case looks like I am carrying a small guitar, tennis racket or anything other than a gun. I've walked into all sorts of hotels and restaurants with that case and no one ever gave it a second though. Mark |
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I say an AR of your choice in the trunk How do you keep it from rusting? Service it once a month, just like a daily carry piece. If the barrel's stainless or chromed, I think you could leave the bore dry and just check the other parts like the bolt regularly. |
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Same way you keep it from not rusting when stored anywhere else. I just figured the changes in temperature would be a lot different (especially this time of year) than storing it in a temperature controlled environment. I've kept a rifle like this in the trunk or back of the SUV for a LONG time now. Nothing has rusted. I honestly DO throw some desiccant packs in the back just for good measure though. |
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I use my Mini for a trunk/truck gun.
In the 929, it's in the trunk. In the Frontier, it's behind the rear seat. In the RX7, it's all the way against the back panel, covered with a black towel. Kind of hard to see in the black interior. I was using an SKS, but the rounds kept popping off the stripper clips, so I went to the Mini. I have quite a few aftermarket mags that work well if downloaded to 25 rounds and just got 4 factory 20 round mags, so the mags work better than the stripper clips. I use the Mini because: A: If it got stolen, I would be upset, but not as upset as I would be if it was an M15 or one of my M1 Carbines. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mini, I just have a lot less money in it. B: I would also be upset if it was held for "evidence" if I ever had to use it. Same reasons as above. |
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I say an AR of your choice in the trunk +1 for the AR for your trunk gun. AR= American Rifle. The Bald Monk Psshaw. 
LarryG, I figured I would get a response from you when I typed that line.
I meant no disrespect to Armalite. The AR is the all American rifle in the tradition of the Kentucky rifle, the Winchester lever action and the M1 Garand. The beauty of the AR is how customizable it is and nothing is more American than customizing your stuff be it a car, a truck or a weapon. From the front lines to the home front, the AR is the American Rifle. The Bald Monk |
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I say an AR of your choice in the trunk +1 for the AR for your trunk gun. AR= American Rifle. The Bald Monk Psshaw.
LarryG, I figured I would get a response from you when I typed that line.
I meant no disrespect to Armalite. The AR is the all American rifle in the tradition of the Kentucky rifle, the Winchester lever action and the M1 Garand. The beauty of the AR is how customizable it is and nothing is more American than customizing your stuff be it a car, a truck or a weapon. From the front lines to the home front, the AR is the American Rifle. The Bald Monk You do realize that you are now posting as your wife. 
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You do realize that you are now posting as your wife.
Damn It! I am such a dumba$$ Oh well, back to the OP's question, I think an AR makes a great truck gun but he would do all right with M1 Carbine or as your pointed the mini. Beside the A-team used the Mini-14 and they sure All American guys. The Bald Monk |
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And if you get the Mini14 you can say "I love it when a plan comes together". -Mrs.Monk I don't get it... Turn in your Man Card for not recognizing Hannibal Smith's line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_%22Hannibal%22_Smith The Bald Monk I still have no clue what you're talking about, but OK. |
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And if you get the Mini14 you can say "I love it when a plan comes together". -Mrs.Monk I don't get it... Turn in your Man Card for not recognizing Hannibal Smith's line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_%22Hannibal%22_Smith The Bald Monk I still have no clue what you're talking about, but OK. Have you never seen the A-Team? The Bald Monk |
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And if you get the Mini14 you can say "I love it when a plan comes together". -Mrs.Monk I don't get it... Turn in your Man Card for not recognizing Hannibal Smith's line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_%22Hannibal%22_Smith The Bald Monk I still have no clue what you're talking about, but OK. Have you never seen the A-Team? The Bald Monk The A Team |
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damn, havn't vited hometown forum in a while...
Trunk gun for me is an AR, when it is riding. My Z71 was great. The back seat flipped up, so I had installed some velcro tie downs under the seat. Sear flips up, there is rifle. There was some talk about that being "hidden" ilegally, so I fastened an older soft case to strap down and the gun slid into it. All cased up, with the benefit of mag pockets on the case. Either way, I drive a saturn now... But, as for hotels and such, ever carry a folding chair on vacation? The bags that they come in are great "tourist camo". If traveling, with rifle, and the need to move it discreetly, it goes ino the bright yellow folding beach chair bag with the Smiley face on it! |
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When I think about shooting in big well populated public places I often think of another possibility. I imagine that the shooting starts and the panic begins. Phone calls go out to local PD that some one is shooting people in XYZ location. Then one of “us” grabs a rifle and runs into the area. What keeps “us” from getting shot by local PD or shooting other people that have come to help armed with a rifle? Imagine some other CCW that pulled his weapon and ran to help.
I am not trying to be a wise ass or anything. But after Virginia Tech I though a lot about this type of thing. I am a full time student and I wish I could CCW on campuses. But since the rules forbid it I don’t. But I thought about “what if I was carrying CCW on campuses and it happened here?” I realized it needed to be handled a lot like an intruder in the house. If you are in your house and someone breaks in then you get some where safe with your family and stay put. If someone enters the room then you defend yourself. You don’t try to clear the house. If you were in a classroom at Virginia Tech and CCW then you would need to do the same thing. If there was someone CCW in every classroom then this would work out well. But imagine for a second that there is some one CCW in every class room. When they hear the shooting everyone of them draws there gun and goes running up and down the hallway looking for the shooter. There would be a hundred unorganized untrained people running around with guns looking for the “guy with a gun”. I think it would be better to go on a defensive ideal and stay put. I think the same type of thing in someway applies to this. If the shooting started it could get really bad if everyone grabbed a rifle and ran into it. I know it sounds like I am saying we should mind our own business and not help each other. That is not what I mean. In the ideal setting a large majority of society would be CCW. Then everyone would just take cover and defend them selves. But I know this is not how things are. So we think we should run to help. And I would like to think we would all do our best to help people in need. But in the world we live in it just concerns me that if this situation happens, anyone running in with a gun will become “the shooter” and possible dead. I am not saying we shouldn’t help or defend ourselves. I am just pointing out some possible problems with grabbing a rifle and running into this type of situation. Just throwing this out there as possible discussion. It’s a bad situation with no good solution. Hopefully we will never have to deal with it. |
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I was also thinking along those lines when I posted - anyone with a gun near the scene of an active shooter situation could easily get shot by the swat guys when they show up, especially with a bad-guy looking gun like an AK/SKS.
An AR sounds great, but 1. they're expensive, and 2. if/when there is a terror attack in USA the muslims could just as easily obtain AR15s as AKs to use. Maybe I'll paint my SKS red white and blue...
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I was also thinking along those lines when I posted - anyone with a gun near the scene of an active shooter situation could easily get shot by the swat guys when they show up, especially with a bad-guy looking gun like an AK/SKS. An AR sounds great, but 1. they're expensive, and 2. if/when there is a terror attack in USA the muslims could just as easily obtain AR15s as AKs to use. Maybe I'll paint my SKS red white and blue... [/div
I'm going to get my AR done in PIG camo. Then the terrorists want touch mine. 
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I use my Mini for a trunk/truck gun. In the 929, it's in the trunk. In the Frontier, it's behind the rear seat. In the RX7, it's all the way against the back panel, covered with a black towel. Kind of hard to see in the black interior. I was using an SKS, but the rounds kept popping off the stripper clips, so I went to the Mini. I have quite a few aftermarket mags that work well if downloaded to 25 rounds and just got 4 factory 20 round mags, so the mags work better than the stripper clips. I use the Mini because: A: If it got stolen, I would be upset, but not as upset as I would be if it was an M15 or one of my M1 Carbines. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mini, I just have a lot less money in it. B: I would also be upset if it was held for "evidence" if I ever had to use it. Same reasons as above. Larry, what kind of RX7 did/do you have?? i used to have a FC, loved that car but had to sell it due to court fees but i made one hell of a profit, bough a set of 16" konig GTR's for 400, traded them for the FC, sold the FC for 1800 to a friend. |
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And if you get the Mini14 you can say "I love it when a plan comes together". -Mrs.Monk I don't get it... Turn in your Man Card for not recognizing Hannibal Smith's line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_%22Hannibal%22_Smith The Bald Monk I still have no clue what you're talking about, but OK. Maybe you are too young to know about the ATeam. Any ideas on a trunk gun for my motorcycle?lol Malum, My durango came with a secret compartment that it seems was designed for the AR rifle in the back. Where in your SUV does the manufacturer make room for your towing accessories? Therein may lie your answer. |
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When I think about shooting in big well populated public places I often think of another possibility. I imagine that the shooting starts and the panic begins. Phone calls go out to local PD that some one is shooting people in XYZ location. Then one of “us” grabs a rifle and runs into the area. What keeps “us” from getting shot by local PD or shooting other people that have come to help armed with a rifle? Imagine some other CCW that pulled his weapon and ran to help. I am not trying to be a wise ass or anything. But after Virginia Tech I though a lot about this type of thing. I am a full time student and I wish I could CCW on campuses. But since the rules forbid it I don’t. But I thought about “what if I was carrying CCW on campuses and it happened here?” I realized it needed to be handled a lot like an intruder in the house. If you are in your house and someone breaks in then you get some where safe with your family and stay put. If someone enters the room then you defend yourself. You don’t try to clear the house. If you were in a classroom at Virginia Tech and CCW then you would need to do the same thing. If there was someone CCW in every classroom then this would work out well. But imagine for a second that there is some one CCW in every class room. When they hear the shooting everyone of them draws there gun and goes running up and down the hallway looking for the shooter. There would be a hundred unorganized untrained people running around with guns looking for the “guy with a gun”. I think it would be better to go on a defensive ideal and stay put. I think the same type of thing in someway applies to this. If the shooting started it could get really bad if everyone grabbed a rifle and ran into it. I know it sounds like I am saying we should mind our own business and not help each other. That is not what I mean. In the ideal setting a large majority of society would be CCW. Then everyone would just take cover and defend them selves. But I know this is not how things are. So we think we should run to help. And I would like to think we would all do our best to help people in need. But in the world we live in it just concerns me that if this situation happens, anyone running in with a gun will become “the shooter” and possible dead. I am not saying we shouldn’t help or defend ourselves. I am just pointing out some possible problems with grabbing a rifle and running into this type of situation. Just throwing this out there as possible discussion. It’s a bad situation with no good solution. Hopefully we will never have to deal with it. Well, the only way that I would run into a fight as opposed to fighting my way to safety would be to get loved ones out of harms way. I don't think that anyone here is talking about taking on the aggressors as much as they are getting out safely. ETA: I am not talking about storming in to rescue loved ones in a hostage type scenario/beslan thing when I stated going into a fight to get loved ones out of harms way. More like before SWAT gets there. |
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I was also thinking along those lines when I posted - anyone with a gun near the scene of an active shooter situation could easily get shot by the swat guys when they show up, especially with a bad-guy looking gun like an AK/SKS. An AR sounds great, but 1. they're expensive, and 2. if/when there is a terror attack in USA the muslims could just as easily obtain AR15s as AKs to use. Maybe I'll paint my SKS red white and blue... hmmmm. that sounds cool. I have an artist friend that could hook up my sks. |
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When I think about shooting in big well populated public places I often think of another possibility. I imagine that the shooting starts and the panic begins. Phone calls go out to local PD that some one is shooting people in XYZ location. Then one of “us” grabs a rifle and runs into the area. What keeps “us” from getting shot by local PD or shooting other people that have come to help armed with a rifle? Imagine some other CCW that pulled his weapon and ran to help. I am not trying to be a wise ass or anything. But after Virginia Tech I though a lot about this type of thing. I am a full time student and I wish I could CCW on campuses. But since the rules forbid it I don’t. But I thought about “what if I was carrying CCW on campuses and it happened here?” I realized it needed to be handled a lot like an intruder in the house. If you are in your house and someone breaks in then you get some where safe with your family and stay put. If someone enters the room then you defend yourself. You don’t try to clear the house. If you were in a classroom at Virginia Tech and CCW then you would need to do the same thing. If there was someone CCW in every classroom then this would work out well. But imagine for a second that there is some one CCW in every class room. When they hear the shooting everyone of them draws there gun and goes running up and down the hallway looking for the shooter. There would be a hundred unorganized untrained people running around with guns looking for the “guy with a gun”. I think it would be better to go on a defensive ideal and stay put. I think the same type of thing in someway applies to this. If the shooting started it could get really bad if everyone grabbed a rifle and ran into it. I know it sounds like I am saying we should mind our own business and not help each other. That is not what I mean. In the ideal setting a large majority of society would be CCW. Then everyone would just take cover and defend them selves. But I know this is not how things are. So we think we should run to help. And I would like to think we would all do our best to help people in need. But in the world we live in it just concerns me that if this situation happens, anyone running in with a gun will become “the shooter” and possible dead. I am not saying we shouldn’t help or defend ourselves. I am just pointing out some possible problems with grabbing a rifle and running into this type of situation. Just throwing this out there as possible discussion. It’s a bad situation with no good solution. Hopefully we will never have to deal with it. Being confused for the bad guy is a possibility in ANY shooting where OTHER good Samaritans might be present. In most active shooter incidents, however, the incident is over before the first responders get there. If someone attacks you with the intent to kill you, you might shoot them to defend yourself and be mistaken as the aggressor. Would you propose not defending yourself? Apply that same philosophy to an active shooter. While not everyone would run toward the gun fire, if you're right in front of the gun fire, would you run away or defend yourself? You have to take a risk either way. You risk being shot in the back if you run, shot in the front if you stand and fight. You risk being confused for the bad guy, but probably not by police, who will probably not be right there. Grabbing a rifle is probably not an option for most of these scenarios we cook up, unless you're at your car already. In that case, it's up to you. |
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I use my Mini for a trunk/truck gun. In the 929, it's in the trunk. In the Frontier, it's behind the rear seat. In the RX7, it's all the way against the back panel, covered with a black towel. Kind of hard to see in the black interior. I was using an SKS, but the rounds kept popping off the stripper clips, so I went to the Mini. I have quite a few aftermarket mags that work well if downloaded to 25 rounds and just got 4 factory 20 round mags, so the mags work better than the stripper clips. I use the Mini because: A: If it got stolen, I would be upset, but not as upset as I would be if it was an M15 or one of my M1 Carbines. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mini, I just have a lot less money in it. B: I would also be upset if it was held for "evidence" if I ever had to use it. Same reasons as above. Larry, what kind of RX7 did/do you have?? i used to have a FC, loved that car but had to sell it due to court fees but i made one hell of a profit, bough a set of 16" konig GTR's for 400, traded them for the FC, sold the FC for 1800 to a friend. 1988 Anniversary Edition Turbo II. Still have it.
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hmmm you have to be smart about it and things will almost never work out that way you imagine it. That’s why it is important to keep your sidearm with you at all time. A trunk gun IS A LUXURY. There will be many instances that you will be away from your car so your pistol is all you have to rely on. But for the chance you drive up to a scene then it would be available.
I prefer my AR over my AK because I don’t want to be mistaken as the bad guy. As much as we like to tell everyone else that doesn't change people opinion of you at the scene , IT DOES MAKE A DIFFRENCE. The public usually associate AK 47 with bad  and AR with good ( The police) . I prefer my ak47 over my ar any day but I will be forced to use my AR.
also if the news media sees you with an AK you are automaticly the offender  .
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HAHA! I loved the A-Team as a kid, but I was too young to have watched Battlestar Gallactica. I just got into the ancient reruns on SciFi recently. I had NO IDEA that was a Cylon that walked past Dirk Benedict in the A-Team intro. He played Starbuck in BSG, and those were the enemy robot centurions. Neat! As for my truck gun: WASR with a cheap, robust red dot on a Russian side mount and a side-folder stock and Romanian forward grip handguards + 3 polymer mags in a shoulder bag. Whole setup was about $380 minus the 90 rounds of Golden Tiger FMJ ammo. If stolen or confiscated, I'm not out even as much as an AR upper. The polymer mags don't rust, the ammo is sealed at the primer and neck, and the whole WASR folds up to almost SBR length if needed. I can shoot really quickly and really well with it, too. I don't care if it looks like a terrorist gun. I'm only taking it out if the SHTF. I also take it out to clean it every so often and pretend I'm in the A-Team. In any SHTF scenario, I am headed home to my family and my gigantic cache of Super Soakers filled with holy water and garlic juice. I'm only coming out to be a Wolverine if the rest of the team shows up. |
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I use my Mini for a trunk/truck gun. In the 929, it's in the trunk. In the Frontier, it's behind the rear seat. In the RX7, it's all the way against the back panel, covered with a black towel. Kind of hard to see in the black interior. I was using an SKS, but the rounds kept popping off the stripper clips, so I went to the Mini. I have quite a few aftermarket mags that work well if downloaded to 25 rounds and just got 4 factory 20 round mags, so the mags work better than the stripper clips. I use the Mini because: A: If it got stolen, I would be upset, but not as upset as I would be if it was an M15 or one of my M1 Carbines. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mini, I just have a lot less money in it. B: I would also be upset if it was held for "evidence" if I ever had to use it. Same reasons as above. Larry, what kind of RX7 did/do you have?? i used to have a FC, loved that car but had to sell it due to court fees but i made one hell of a profit, bough a set of 16" konig GTR's for 400, traded them for the FC, sold the FC for 1800 to a friend. 1988 Anniversary Edition Turbo II. Still have it.
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Being a student, the whole trunk gun idea is a bit more complicated. Being in class 4-5 days a week makes this process a pain in the ass, as well as CCW for that fucking matter. It's absolutely irritating. Do I sacrifice not having a gun in my car/with me because I'm going to be on campus for a class or two? This dilemma almost takes away from my gfl because unless its the weekend I'm going to class the day.
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The solution is Remington 742 or later model 7400. Ar type gas operated rotating bolt action with FUDD looks. Detachable magazine and great calibers .....243, 280,308 and 30.06 Used the are cheap <300bucks so if it gets stolen your not out a ton and they probably won't get banned when the new AWB rolls around. And yes, they make high capacity magazines.
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That's just a .30-06? It's pushing that guy around a lot. Of course, he looks like he weighs 90 lbs, so maybe that's it. |