Posted: 6/8/2006 10:20:24 AM EDT
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I have just recently prepaired a bag for in my truck with emergency supplies ( food, water, fire, etc). This bag will stay in the truck 24/7/365. I want to put a cheap handgun in the bag for protection, food gathering, etc. if needed. My question is, if the hand gun is in a case and then put in the bag, would this be considered a concealed weapon? This might sound like a dumb question to some of you, but I'm not up to snuff on "concealed" laws. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Stang |
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Go. Read. Edumacate yourself. Short answer: In a case that completely covers the pistol, unloaded (no loaded mag in the gun, no round in the chamber), is just fine. Anecdotally, there is no "not within one's reach" clause in WI law, nor do the loaded mags have to be in a separate area from the gun. Nut Case Cops™ may disagree, but they would be wrong. |
Depends on the truck also...if the gun is accessible. Example: pick up truck with gun in bed-no lock required but must be cased, unloaded and ammunition outside case, if you have a SUV-gun must be cased and locked because it is "readly available", you may have the ammunition in your pocket. Traveling outside the WI border under these federal rules is OK, but be careful of states with non peacable journey laws. Concealed carry denotes a weapon is outside a "case" , transporting a weapon is another subject......basically have the weapon unloaded, cased and locked and the ammunition can be anywhere near it. Henry |
| Henry, you can have a hangun in a case unloaded sitting on driver's lap and doesn't make a differance. It does not have to be locked in anyway regardless of vehicle and were it is in the vehicle. Just completely enclosed in the case and unloaded. However like you said other states are differant. RnR |
Wisconsin law has no "Readily Available" language, and makes no attempt to define where the cased and unloaded arm must be placed within the vehicle. Completely unspecified. Wisconsin law does not address the issue of "locking" a case with a firearm in it. Wisconsin law does not address the transportation of ammunition, nor bar it from being in the same container as the firearm. Unloaded. That's all. They're all good serving suggestions that may help convince someone that you're a good guy who's intent on following the rules, They are not laws. |
Take it from an LEO. Theres a thing called the "lunge rule". No its not an actual law, but pretty much an informal thing in the LE community that means that if you are sitting in the drivers seat and can reach the gun from there, Its possible to get picked up for CC. It will NEVER stand up in court. But it would still be a pain in the a** to have to go through with. So don't make yourself available to be put in that situation. Glove box is a really bad idea too, even cased. Don't be dumb enough to put it on your lap, ever. If you get stopped, going to the range is always the best way to defuse the situation. But its a good idea to just keep it totally out of reach. You never know what rook you might get. But just remember, if he asks you if he can search, you have just as much of a right to say no, and to make him explain himself. As LE, we can ask you whatever we want. But you dont have to answer ("right to remain silent"). Just a tip from a LEO and a fellow gun owner on how to not feel the uncomfortable plastic seat of a squad. |
| I would not leave the gun in truck when you are not in it. If the gun was to get stolen it would end up in some pos hands also you could open yourself up to a liability issue. I would go for a wheel gun with speed loaders at the ready VS a auto with loaded mags there is some language open to interpretation as to what set up is ccw just my opinion |