Posted: 9/29/2014 3:48:26 PM EDT
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Hey fellas, I'd like to confirm something regarding HB495. I Sincesearched all 7 pages of our hometown forum and didnt see an answer but I feel like it must have been asked here many times before. this law change, I can legally carry loaded rifle mags with my rifle, as long as they aren't inserted into the rifle. Correct? I got this from buckeyefirearms.org so I assume its correct. My main concern is the portion in yellow below. Thanks in advance. For someone who does not have a Concealed Handgun License, that person may have loaded magazines or speed loaders in the vehicle so long as:
For someone with a CHL, they may have a loaded magazine in the vehicle anyway they wish, so long as any magazine for a non-handgun is not inserted into the non-handgun. (i.e. a loaded rifle magazine may be anywhere in the vehicle as long as it isn’t inserted into the rifle. |
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If you have a valid CHL, you can carry loaded mags anyway you want except inserted into the firearm.
If you do NOT have a valid CHL, you can carry loaded mags but they must not be carried with the firearm they go to. They can be carried anywhere if the firearm is not present (ie. another vehicle). Or they can be carried along with the firearm as long as they are in enclosed areas not with the firearm (ie pocket, range bag pocket that closes, rifle bag with separate closable mag pockets, etc.) |
| as crazyelece put it, the law is basically written to confer more leniency in "where" the loaded mags can be stored for CHL holders, vs. non-CHL holders... ...but, regardless of which of these two "classes" one falls in, you can never have a loaded magazine inserted into the long gun when it's in the vehicle... |
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Quoted: as crazyelece put it, the law is basically written to confer more leniency in "where" the loaded mags can be stored for CHL holders, vs. non-CHL holders... ...but, regardless of which of these two "classes" one falls in, you can never have a loaded magazine inserted into the long gun when it's in the vehicle... |
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Quoted: If you have a valid CHL, you can carry loaded mags anyway you want except inserted into the firearm. If you do NOT have a valid CHL, you can carry loaded mags but they must not be carried with the firearm they go to. They can be carried anywhere if the firearm is not present (ie. another vehicle). Or they can be carried along with the firearm as long as they are in enclosed areas not with the firearm (ie pocket, range bag pocket that closes, rifle bag with separate closable mag pockets, etc.) |
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Since this law change, I can legally carry loaded rifle mags with my rifle, as long as they aren't inserted into the rifle. Correct? No. They would need to be in separate compartments to be considered "unloaded". Otherwise, it would be considered "loaded". I notice lower down that you reference 2923.16(k)(5) from the BFA: (My best stab at this is it is a one compartment gun case, the gun or the magazine/speed loader would need to be in some sort of pouch that is closed.) This correct. 
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No. They would need to be in separate compartments to be considered "unloaded". Otherwise, it would be considered "loaded". I notice lower down that you reference 2923.16(k)(5) from the BFA: This correct.
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Since this law change, I can legally carry loaded rifle mags with my rifle, as long as they aren't inserted into the rifle. Correct? No. They would need to be in separate compartments to be considered "unloaded". Otherwise, it would be considered "loaded". I notice lower down that you reference 2923.16(k)(5) from the BFA: (My best stab at this is it is a one compartment gun case, the gun or the magazine/speed loader would need to be in some sort of pouch that is closed.) This correct.
You're making an assumption that he doesn't have a valid CHL. If he has a valid CHL he can carry loaded mags anywhere, any way he wants except inserted into the rifle |
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Quoted: You're making an assumption that he doesn't have a valid CHL. If he has a valid CHL he can carry loaded mags anywhere, any way he wants except inserted into the rifle Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Since this law change, I can legally carry loaded rifle mags with my rifle, as long as they aren't inserted into the rifle. Correct? No. They would need to be in separate compartments to be considered "unloaded". Otherwise, it would be considered "loaded". I notice lower down that you reference 2923.16(k)(5) from the BFA: (My best stab at this is it is a one compartment gun case, the gun or the magazine/speed loader would need to be in some sort of pouch that is closed.) This correct. You're making an assumption that he doesn't have a valid CHL. If he has a valid CHL he can carry loaded mags anywhere, any way he wants except inserted into the rifle  |
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You're making an assumption that he doesn't have a valid CHL. If he has a valid CHL he can carry loaded mags anywhere, any way he wants except inserted into the rifle Quoted:
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Since this law change, I can legally carry loaded rifle mags with my rifle, as long as they aren't inserted into the rifle. Correct? No. They would need to be in separate compartments to be considered "unloaded". Otherwise, it would be considered "loaded". I notice lower down that you reference 2923.16(k)(5) from the BFA: (My best stab at this is it is a one compartment gun case, the gun or the magazine/speed loader would need to be in some sort of pouch that is closed.) This correct.
You're making an assumption that he doesn't have a valid CHL. If he has a valid CHL he can carry loaded mags anywhere, any way he wants except inserted into the rifle He never said he did. |