Posted: 12/9/2007 4:53:01 PM EDT
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ok, ive been reading as much as i can find about CCW permits in Indiana. it sys they can be had at 18, but legally pistols cant b purchased from an FFL dealer until 21. here is my list of questions... what is a FTF? will it allow me to have a family member transfer ownership of a handgun to me since in 19 and cant purchase one? what do i have to do? also, i read about the definition of a handgun and it says that it is a firearm designed or redesigned to be supported by one arm regardless of barrel length, having a barrel of less than 16", and an overall length of less than 26". I am currently in the process of making an SBR and it will have a barrel less than 16", does this mean that it wil be considered a handgun? any feedback is appreciated as i am completely confused about all of this |
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1st question is an easy answer - FTF: Face-to-face...means a transaction between two private individuals Technically, if you have questions interpreting the law, the last you should do is ask questions to strangers on the Internet. You get one wrong answer, and you can be facing felony charges in court some day. If you have questions about legal matters, I'd advise talking to an attorney. Not to sound harsh, but if you do some checking on this site and others, when it comes to legal opinions, everybody has one...and they don't always coincide with each other. When it comes to your rights, I'd consult an attorney that knows gun laws pretty well. |
yeah, im actually going to be in contact with several law enforcement officers and am trying to get in touch with BATFE for more answers, but im just trying to cover the spread and ask everyone in case others here have dealt with this situation. |
not from what ive seen so far. do you have an exact refrence to the law that i can see? |
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also, i read about the definition of a handgun and it says that it is a firearm designed or redesigned to be supported by one arm regardless of barrel length, having a barrel of less than 16", and an overall length of less than 26". I am currently in the process of making an SBR and it will have a barrel less than 16", does this mean that it wil be considered a handgun? Read the federal defenition of a rifle. Rifle. A weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger. Key being "fired from the shoulder." What you are describing is a rifle, no 2 bones about it. A handgun does not have a shoulder stock. |
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A +1 about getting some research for yourself. One issue is that you had mentioned an SBR. There are certain requirements for Short barrelled Rifles. Like the need for a federal stamp. Pistols (handguns) don't need this federal stamp. Look at the ar-15 pistol scene. I thing you will even find some in EE Kel-tec makes a PLR-16 that is nothing more than an AR-15 designed to be fired as a pistol. (well maybe a little more complicated than that but you can get the idea) Issue number two is that just because you have friends in Law enforcement does NOT make them experts in the law... I mean no disrespect to any law enforcement officer whatsoever but there are many LEO's out there who simply are not well versed in general gun ownership and 2nd amendment rights. Lastly do your self a great big favor... don't get in a hurry. It is very easy to make a wrong decision and get something you don't want or even illegal if you rush into anything. Lastly maybe the greatest thing you can do for your future gun purchases and your personal 2nd amendment rights is to make damn certain that you are registered to vote in the next election and that you exercise that right with as much research and thought as you plan to put into your gun purchases. good luck and may the force be with you! |
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You may want to check out the other thread running on buying a firearm when under the age of 21: ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=30&t=289204 It may cover some of the same ground. As for SBR, just one comment of my own. Be careful with anything relating to the BATF. They have absolutely no sense of humor nor do they understand the phrase 'oops'. |
+1 You'll probably get just as many different answers from them as you will on here. |
im sorry, I wasnt meaning any disrespect when i said that. i was just saying that the way i have read the laws and from a couple of the other posts on here regarding age, i thought it didnt say you had to be 21 if you had a reciever you were building into an SBR. this is why im doing all the fact finding right now is so that i dont screw up when it comes time for me to get my stamp and everything.
yeah, i re-read it all a little while after i posted and figured it out, but it just kind of tripped me up when the federal government calls it one thing, but the state government calls it another. i should have remembered that federal government rules over state and i wouldnt have had to ask that lol.height=8
yeah, i knew about the F1 and tax stamp, my state laws just tripped me up a bit lol. im using my law enforcement contacts so that i can get a paper copy of all of the firearms laws/regulations in indiana. then im going to ask BAFT to clarify the things that I dont understand. im deffinately not taking what they say for gospel because they hardly ever deal with anything regarding class III firearms. im trying to go real slow through this process to make sure im covering every possibility i possibly can. i know that if all else fails, i can just wait two years and fill all the forms out at 21. yes, i am deffinately registered to vote, registered the day I turned 18. I vote every chance I get. Im also starting to compile a list of all of indianas state laws as well as all the court preceedings i can get a hold of regarding firearms, and crime rate info, etc... im considering focusing my major(im finishing a bachelors in Criminal Justice) on firearm laws and their affect on individual states/overall crime.
yes, im trying to be as careful as possible. im trying to cover all my bases because i dont like the thought of 10 years in prison or $10,000 in fines for making an honest mistake lol. |
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Get you IN License to carry. Have your dad, or whomever buy the pistol for you. It is legal for a parent/guardian to by a gun for their kid. It is also legal for you to buy a pistol from anyone that lives in your state. That is exactly what I did. I got my permit when I was 18, carried my grandads pistol until I could talk my dad into buying one for me @ 19. I carried that one for several years, through many states. |
thats what im working on right now. just have to talk my parents into selling me a pistol lol |
Talk them into selling you one? Remind them that this is the season of giving.  
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so true . i talked to my dad about it today, and he told me to ask him when the school semester is over next week.
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