Posted: 10/14/2007 12:15:42 PM EDT
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If I am reading this correctly, loaded open carry is legal in Portland if you hold a CHL? link My brain hurts from all the double speak  Thanks in advance 
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mostly i just was wondering because I open carry around the house alot (ie. front yard). just nice to know the laws and all if i decide to walk across the street to visit the neighbors and such. plus i gotta admit that seeing the looks on peoples faces at the Plaid down the street or something would be priceless. |
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I do not know all the laws about CHL, but I did stay in a holiday inn last night. My understanding, and interpretation of the law is that you cannot open carry in Portland, or Beaverton. Period The Washington County sheriff(off duty) who gave my CHL class told us that we could lose our CHL if we open carried in Portland, and could do jail time for it. I don't know if that is true, but why risk it IMO. |
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Not a lawyer, didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, but I have read every law (that I know of) the applies to carry in Oregon. My conclusion: Open carry is legal in Portland with a CHL. There is not a single line in any local or state law which says otherwise. I am so sick of hearing people tell me things are illegal when they aren't. I double fucking dare someone to prove otherwise. |
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I don't really like that Portland does not allow open carry. Doesn't it go against the 2nd with the right to bear arms part? I don't walk around during the day with a gun on my hip or anything, but I like to put one on my hip every once and a while when I take the dogs for a walk at night. |
Yeah, it's pretty silly really. The idea that you can open carry as long as it's not loaded seems really strange to me. I mean what happens if you should actually need your firearm for self-defence but it's not loaded due to a silly ordinance. But, if you go to all the trouble of getting a CHL, your all good for open carry
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Until one of them hits you on the head with a beer bottle and takes your gun. Either because 1) they are a bad guy and "hey, free gun." or 2) they are a do gooder who doesn't know shit from shinola. or 3) they call the cops and you get hassled for no reason. Although open carry is legal, you should look up Disorderly Conduct. Doing something that a reasonable person thinks could cause alarm, e.g. "just to see the looks on people's faces." hmmm... maybe not the best long term legal strategy, ya know?
Or you could look it up yourself... then you'd know and not have to ask a bunch of chumps on the internet.  Check the ORS and then look up the Portland City Code and compare them. I'll give you a head start on your googleing.  Portland City Code 14A.60.010 Possession of a Loaded Firearm in a Public Place. ORS 166.173 Authority of city or county to regulate possession of loaded firearms in public places. The reason both Beaverton and Portland have that exemption for CCW holders is because of 166.173. |
Gackman vs. cackman. Battle Royale. 
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and in no way answer my question with your OPINION... which was exactly what i was asking for with this post, OPINIONS.
I can't wait!
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I'm just saying, big boy rules. You're the one carrying a gun around, if you don't think someone will attack you and attempt to disarm you (either with good or bad intentions), the leave it at home... The way I look at it, you either believe the world is a bad place and recognize that a firearm if a good tool to protect yourself. OR, you don't think you need it because you don't believe the world is a bad place. I dunno' man - do you think the world is only a bad place when you expect it to be?
I didn't mean to be all harsh on ya. That subject has been discussed at length here regarding which cities have local restrictions on open carry. The ORS restricts localities from regulating CHL. That power rests with the state. Hence, the local laws don't apply to CHL holders (along with a slew of other people, cops, soldiers, etc.). So, it isn't really an opinion so much as it is the law... as goofy as those are, that one is pretty straight forward. Quoting your "CCW instructor" and asking for interpretations of the law on the internet just ain't no way to roll bro! 
Cage Match! 
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sounds like maybe you have your tinfoil wrapped a little tight there big guy Yeah the world is a harsh place my friend but what does that have do with anything ? it sounds like your opinion would be that all of a sudden it becomes more dangerous a place by openly arming yourself? sounds like gun-grabber logic to me. OH TEH NOEZ!!1111 HE GOTS A GAT EYZE GUNNA GIT IM!!111!!1ONE. Too much man I dont get it. In fact kinda sounds like how my 1911 is going to spontanioulsy erupt with baby-killing fury if left un-attended. Situational awareness would be the key here ya think? ? I personally pride myself on being very aware of my surroundings at all times.
I quoted no one  Once again, reading is fundamental.
Cage Match! LMAO! You guys are fargin funny ETA: cuz i speel gud
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Honestly, so would I. Am I the one to blaze this trail toward untold glory? Probably not BTW Gack, that part about the glory was sarcasm. Just in case you wanna calibrate that meter of yours
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I OC everyday, no one notices except for gun people, had some dude come up to me in safeway and he asked if I was a cop I laughed then he showed me a badge and a g26 in an ankle holster. Turned out to be really cool though and also thought I was kind of ridiculous I could carry a gun in the open but couldnt get a permit to conceal it. |
GASP! You mean no one has ambushed you w/ a forty oz. bottle and snatched your piece? You gotta be careful man. The world is a bad place brother. |
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It should be noted that, while open carry may be legal, it also gives law enforcement agents probable cause to search. There was a case that went to either the court of appeals or supreme court (can't remember which) wherein a gentleman was waiting on a street corner in the suburbs at 4:00am dressed in camo holding a long gun (duck hunter waiting for a ride). This gave law enforcement the right to search his home I believe. At any rate they arrested him for something else they found. Seems ridiculous but it is what it is. |
If you open carry, you are advertising (to both good guys and bad guys). That's all I was saying. You start a thread advertising that you have a limited grasp of the law surrounding CCW and open carry. But you dismiss advice that doesn't fit into what you want to hear (hey, you wanted opinions - if you want to compare resumes and experience in the area, I'm your huckleberry). I've been carrying a gun for 17 years - I rarely use it. Doesn't mean I shouldn't carry since I don't use it? Nothing bad ever happens, right? It seems like you've created a paradox for yourself. 1) You want to carry a gun, so you have a reason for doing so and recognize that need. 2) You don't think you have to worry about anything actually happening. e.g. someone trying to take your gun from you when you advertise that you are carrying one because you'll rely on your acute SA to keep you out of trouble. So... Which is it? You need it or you don't? You accept the risks and responsibilities or you don't? Maybe you're just carrying a gun to compensate for your lack of fully developed male genitalia and don't really grasp the responsibility you are taking upon yourself. |
I can't imagine where that would happen, except in CA or some other Nazi state. Since you are not breaking the law I don't see how it gives them PC for anything. If you are out side there would be no reason I see to search your house. |
Where do you live? I don't know if I would have the balls. I only OC at night |
Albany, I didnt have the balls at first either until I saw some guy rummaging through my Jeep at my office. 
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This I understand. And I agree. My only exception to this was the severity of your answer. Your rather reactionary response was rather uncalled for and not really necessary IMO.
Your "advice" , as you call it, was hardly so. Sounded more like some loony coming out of the woodwork. But if that's what it was I can accept that, thank you for your concern.
not at all what I was saying
1) yes 2)I never said that. I was being facetious with some of my previous posts and apparently that went straight over your head. The loony tunes tone of your OP was egging me on a bit. For the record you do have a valid point, just a really shitty way of communicating that.
see above
You were doing real good until that gem.
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I can neither confirm or deny that statement
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Very interesting. I must do some research on that. |
 Well played.Now for the Next Show........................ PISTOLS AT DAWN IN THE FIELD OF ONIONS. You sir are a rouge and a scoundrel. I applaud you.  |