Posted: 4/6/2013 2:38:58 PM EDT
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So now, could the only OK thing about CTs terrible new gun law be that once registered could the rifles have their stocks un-pinned, flash hiders, and all the other "evil features" we want? Could we finally put that pistol grip on our saiga 12s or convert it to a kushnapup?
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I was told that is a no go. Your preban weapons like PWAs can still have tele stocks and flash hiders but anything that was 'post ban' must still comply with post ban rules... Source? And what's the legal justification for this? To me it seems like the law "locks" or freezes CTs guns where they are. Can not be sold in state, given to anyone, and no new ones can be bought. |
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I was told that is a no go. Your preban weapons like PWAs can still have tele stocks and flash hiders but anything that was 'post ban' must still comply with post ban rules... Source? And what's the legal justification for this? To me it seems like the law "locks" or freezes CTs guns where they are. Can not be sold in state, given to anyone, and no new ones can be bought. ...which has nothing to do with modifications by an existing owner. ETA - not trying to be a dick, but I don't see how this has anything to do with it. If I'm wrong, please explain. |
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With the new wording of the law there seems to be no such thing as pre/post ban. They even took out the "manufactured prior to.......".
So if it only takes one feature to have to register, and any/all features make it an "assault weapon" it seems that all the pins can come out and all the barrels can be threaded.... But like I said, I'm going to wait a bit....... |
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So now, could the only OK thing about CTs terrible new gun law be that once registered could the rifles have their stocks un-pinned, flash hiders, and all the other "evil features" we want? Could we finally put that pistol grip on our saiga 12s or convert it to a kushnapup? It certainly appears that way....... And, yes or no to the above, we can still buy 10 round Saiga 12 mags to put in them. 
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With the new wording of the law there seems to be no such thing as pre/post ban. They even took out the "manufactured prior to.......". So if it only takes one feature to have to register, and any/all features make it an "assault weapon" it seems that all the pins can come out and all the barrels can be threaded.... But like I said, I'm going to wait a bit....... I'm lost as well on this. That being said, does this bill actually replace the old AWB? Nowhere can I find that SB1160 is in Lieu of old AWB. Do they run concurrently? If this bill actually replaces and nulls the old bill, then I say yes we can add whatever features we want before or after registration. An AW is an AW. Now that being said I AM NO LAWYER. But like you just trying to make sense of the BS |
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I'm lost as well on this. That being said, does this bill actually replace the old AWB? Nowhere can I find that SB1160 is in Lieu of old AWB. The old AWB was repealed by public law 13-3 so it is no longer effective. Section 25 of the new law specifically repeals the old AWB (CGS 53-202a) and replaces it: "Sec. 25. Section 53-202a of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective from passage):" N.B: I am a CT lawyer but I am not providing you legal advice through my posts here. |
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I'm lost as well on this. That being said, does this bill actually replace the old AWB? Nowhere can I find that SB1160 is in Lieu of old AWB. The old AWB was repealed by public law 13-3 so it is no longer effective. Section 25 of the new law specifically repeals the old AWB (CGS 53-202a) and replaces it: "Sec. 25. Section 53-202a of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective from passage):" N.B: I am a CT lawyer but I am not providing you legal advice through my posts here. What's your "opinion" as a CT lawyer? |
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thought of this a little while ago
back in 94 people had to register colt sporters as AWs, even though they were neutered anyways, because they were listed by name. so there you have a neutered AR, had to register it, and could then have all the evil features you wanted, because there was nothing in the law saying you couldnt would it not be the same now, because of the lack of wording in the new law saying that we cant? |
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thought of this a little while ago back in 94 people had to register colt sporters as AWs, even though they were neutered anyways, because they were listed by name. so there you have a neutered AR, had to register it, and could then have all the evil features you wanted, because there was nothing in the law saying you couldnt would it not be the same now, because of the lack of wording in the new law saying that we cant? According to the post above, and I missed, the new bill replaces the old bill. New bill is in lieu of... I'm pretty sure an aw is an aw now and it doesn't matter what is has for features. Again , this is an opinion I am no lawyer |
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thought of this a little while ago back in 94 people had to register colt sporters as AWs, even though they were neutered anyways, because they were listed by name. so there you have a neutered AR, had to register it, and could then have all the evil features you wanted, because there was nothing in the law saying you couldnt would it not be the same now, because of the lack of wording in the new law saying that we cant? According to the post above, and I missed, the new bill replaces the old bill. New bill is in lieu of... I'm pretty sure an aw is an aw now and it doesn't matter what is has for features. Again , this is an opinion I am no lawyer I agree, however, will the police understand this when they see me at the range? I will let somebody else be the test , I am leaving my weapons in their current pre bill passing setup |
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thought of this a little while ago back in 94 people had to register colt sporters as AWs, even though they were neutered anyways, because they were listed by name. so there you have a neutered AR, had to register it, and could then have all the evil features you wanted, because there was nothing in the law saying you couldnt would it not be the same now, because of the lack of wording in the new law saying that we cant? According to the post above, and I missed, the new bill replaces the old bill. New bill is in lieu of... I'm pretty sure an aw is an aw now and it doesn't matter what is has for features. Again , this is an opinion I am no lawyer I agree, however, will the police understand this when they see me at the range? I will let somebody else be the test , I am leaving my weapons in their current pre bill passing setup When the police see you at the range after jan 1 2014, they will ask for your AW certificate of possession. |
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When the police see you at the range after jan 1 2014, they will ask for your AW certificate of possession. While a police officer can ask you anything, he cannot compel you to answer or produce a damn thing unless he has a reasonable, articulable suspicion that you have committed, are committing, or are about to commit a crime. See, e.g., 4th Amendment, Terry v. Ohio. |
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When the police see you at the range after jan 1 2014, they will ask for your AW certificate of possession. While a police officer can ask you anything, he cannot compel you to answer or produce a damn thing unless he has a reasonable, articulable suspicion that you have committed, are committing, or are about to commit a crime. See, e.g., 4th Amendment, Terry v. Ohio. I'm aware of terry law. It's broken all the time... As a lawyer you know that. Also, you still haven't expressed your opinion on the bill in regards to being able to add features now such as folding stocks, bayo lugs etc on post ban rifles... Your opinion is not gonna be taken as advice and absolute fact. So please do endulge us ... |
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When the police see you at the range after jan 1 2014, they will ask for your AW certificate of possession. While a police officer can ask you anything, he cannot compel you to answer or produce a damn thing unless he has a reasonable, articulable suspicion that you have committed, are committing, or are about to commit a crime. See, e.g., 4th Amendment, Terry v. Ohio. I'm aware of terry law. It's broken all the time... As a lawyer you know that. Also, you still haven't expressed your opinion on the bill in regards to being able to add features now such as folding stocks, bayo lugs etc on post ban rifles... Your opinion is not gonna be taken as advice and absolute fact. So please do endulge us ... Quoted: What's your "opinion" as a CT lawyer? Quoted: My opinion of what exactly? On the law about what features we can have,just curious as a lawyer what you think??? |
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When the police see you at the range after jan 1 2014, they will ask for your AW certificate of possession. While a police officer can ask you anything, he cannot compel you to answer or produce a damn thing unless he has a reasonable, articulable suspicion that you have committed, are committing, or are about to commit a crime. See, e.g., 4th Amendment, Terry v. Ohio. I'm aware of terry law. It's broken all the time... As a lawyer you know that. Also, you still haven't expressed your opinion on the bill in regards to being able to add features now such as folding stocks, bayo lugs etc on post ban rifles... Your opinion is not gonna be taken as advice and absolute fact. So please do endulge us ... Quoted: What's your "opinion" as a CT lawyer? Quoted: My opinion of what exactly? On the law about what features we can have,just curious as a lawyer what you think??? give um some time guys, they have mao-loys son to take care of, im sure hes committed some other crime that daddy is trying to erase for him |