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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:16:00 PM EST
GearScout just posted that Magpul is releasing M3 in another color: sand. Article: GearScout
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Its cool that they mention they chose it for rit dye and painting abilities.
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We will have release later today. Probably this afternoon. Trying to get a few things coordinated as we all get on planes for Las Vegas.
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I'm guessing this is "Sand"...
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_124/199321__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Any_chance_of_white_PMags_or_furniture_.html&page=2#i1606935 .... offer the items in a natural state (no color) which is a very light creamy brown.... View Quote |
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be nice to see some pics that haven't had the contrast and brightness tweaked, in order to get a true sense of their color.
those pics looks like they were taken with an instagram filter lol. |
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As someone who now buys FDE pmags and then experiments on dying them new and exciting colors, this looks good to me
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Will this extend to other accessories, since it's so easy to dye?
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I'm hoping for AK mags to go with my AK-104 clone-ish that has sand furniture on it.
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It's said to be "WAY Stronger than the M3 Polymer", I'm sure the reason being is that there is NO color added into the mixture before molding and it probably bonds better that way.
So Magpul attempted to make a "White mag" for people to dye different colors, but yet it turned out to be a "Sand"/very light Tan color so know it can ALSO be marketed as something to accompany FDE furniture. Magpul knocked out 2 birds with 1 stone on this one!! M3 is their strongest Polymer, until this one, Wish they would make a "M4" out of this material in Black. I'm sure that's why Black was the ONLY color in M3, being the coloring in the mix takes away from the Polymers bonding properties so that's likely why "M3" Pmags weren't available in FDE and the classic colors being I'm sure they found a black compound that wouldn't hurt the Polymers bonding process but not so lucky with others.. I wonder what Gen the Furniture is?? Especially the New AK furniture. |
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It sounds like the sand is just the raw plastics natural color without coloring.
Making it black would seems like it would make it a normal M3. |
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Agreed, but I'm speaking on HOW it is apparently MUCH stronger than the M3 Pmag (The strongest one they have.)
These were made for people to DYE and make their own colors but just wondering WHY its so much stronger and isnt incorporated into new mags. The only thing I can think of is the lack of coloring mixed into the polymer before the molding process made the molecules bond together, in turn, creating a stronger mag being it has less additives. |
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The implication in what I've read is that it is a new polymer formulation.
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I'm no expert, but how hard can it be to dunk a bunch of mags into a Rubbermaid tub full of dye? I'm looking forward to trying this out.
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Quoted: So, what's a good Rit formula to match Magpul OD Green? View Quote Unfortunately we'll have to wait until someone gets these new mags and does some trial and error. The underlying "sand" color will influence the final color in some way, so any known color recipes using FDE will be slightly different with these.
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It would be nice if Magpul figured out the formulas for their colors and provided them on their website. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, what's a good Rit formula to match Magpul OD Green? It would be nice if Magpul figured out the formulas for their colors and provided them on their website. Along with time in the tank, water temp, etc. A recipe, if you will... |
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Quoted: Me too. In a short amount of time I'll have a formula developed to make my own stealth grey PMAGS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm no expert, but how hard can it be to dunk a bunch of mags into a Rubbermaid tub full of dye? I'm looking forward to trying this out. Maybe Magpul can tack a thread for us for people to share their RIT recipes.
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Another thing to help when you come up with colors, assuming these will come with the dust covers like the black M3's do, is to use the covers as test pieces in your dye to see how the finished color will come out before you do the mag.
Heck, if you're like me and don't really use the covers at all, you could even cut them up into several smaller pieces and get several trials out of one.
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Along with time in the tank, water temp, etc. A recipe, if you will... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, what's a good Rit formula to match Magpul OD Green? It would be nice if Magpul figured out the formulas for their colors and provided them on their website. Along with time in the tank, water temp, etc. A recipe, if you will... Sounds good to me. I wouldn't expect Magpul to figure out every color under the rainbow, just the colors they normally do. |
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In the past people dyed these all the time, but I assumed they maybe used some type of primer (that is no longer needed), and also when they were Hydro-Dipped for added designs, they still had the original color in the background (Like the "Reaper" Version, etc etc.)
Hope they use this new strength in upcoming mags, although its likely stronger due to them not adding color in the Polymer mix, being they never Dye their mags, its mixed in the mold. The Polymer probably bonds better without the extra Black ingredient like in the "M3 Pmag" (Always wondered why the "M3" was strictly black, I bet a certain New type of Black additive was used to not affect M3 strength.) They also said you will not have to tape off the windows, paint must not stick to the "Maglevel" window in the "Sand Mag." Just my 2 cents. |
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They're going to sell a lot of extra mags to people just to experiment with coloring.
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They're going to sell a lot of extra mags to people just to experiment with coloring. View Quote Indeed, and if they are actually light Tan colored and not "White" like in that pic we saw in that guys lap, people will buy them to compliment "FDE" builds, and also for the fact that they are stronger than any other Pmag on the market... It's a "Triple Purpose" Mag!! Magpul killed 3 birds with 1 stone on this one!!!!!! |
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Ooh, nice. I wasn't even thinking about gray. Maybe Magpul can tack a thread for us for people to share their RIT recipes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm no expert, but how hard can it be to dunk a bunch of mags into a Rubbermaid tub full of dye? I'm looking forward to trying this out. Maybe Magpul can tack a thread for us for people to share their RIT recipes. There is a sticky in the magazine forum showing the different colors that people have dyed FDE mags. |
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We're gonna end up having to make a color recipe library thread complete with pictured examples.
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Will the Pmag LR/SR line get the "sand" treatment? View Quote Their 2015 catalog I picked up has sand and black listed for all their mags except the gen 2 moe mags which has blk od and fde listed. So if the 2015 catalog is correct you will be able to get all magazines in sand and the moes still in od and fde. Accroding to the guys I talk to at shot. They are eventually going to releas a video to show different processes to obtain different colors. |
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Their 2015 catalog I picked up has sand and black listed for all their mags except the gen 2 moe mags which has blk od and fde listed. So if the 2015 catalog is correct you will be able to get all magazines in sand and the moes still in od and fde. Accroding to the guys I talk to at shot. They are eventually going to releas a video to show different processes to obtain different colors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Will the Pmag LR/SR line get the "sand" treatment? Their 2015 catalog I picked up has sand and black listed for all their mags except the gen 2 moe mags which has blk od and fde listed. So if the 2015 catalog is correct you will be able to get all magazines in sand and the moes still in od and fde. Accroding to the guys I talk to at shot. They are eventually going to releas a video to show different processes to obtain different colors. RIT is good stuff, but it's very time and temp sensitive. Additionally, the colors will vary with water hardness/iron content, and a host of other factors. It's fun to dye your own stuff with grocery store products but keep your expectations realistic. |
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RIT is good stuff, but it's very time and temp sensitive. Additionally, the colors will vary with water hardness/iron content, and a host of other factors. It's fun to dye your own stuff with grocery store products but keep your expectations realistic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Will the Pmag LR/SR line get the "sand" treatment? Their 2015 catalog I picked up has sand and black listed for all their mags except the gen 2 moe mags which has blk od and fde listed. So if the 2015 catalog is correct you will be able to get all magazines in sand and the moes still in od and fde. Accroding to the guys I talk to at shot. They are eventually going to releas a video to show different processes to obtain different colors. RIT is good stuff, but it's very time and temp sensitive. Additionally, the colors will vary with water hardness/iron content, and a host of other factors. It's fun to dye your own stuff with grocery store products but keep your expectations realistic. Which is why this really isn't a replacement for factory colors which would be consistent. |
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Quoted: We're gonna end up having to make a color recipe library thread complete with pictured examples. View Quote There is already a "Rit Dye" thread in the magazine forum here is the link |
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There is already a "Rit Dye" thread in the magazine forum here is the link http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_17/484089_Next_time_I_ll_try_Yellow_on_the_PMAG__ROUND_3__looks_like_FDE_is_the_best_host__SUMMARY.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We're gonna end up having to make a color recipe library thread complete with pictured examples. There is already a "Rit Dye" thread in the magazine forum here is the link http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_17/484089_Next_time_I_ll_try_Yellow_on_the_PMAG__ROUND_3__looks_like_FDE_is_the_best_host__SUMMARY.html Not what I'm talking about here. I'm imagining an index style thread with a constantly updated OP that follows a specific format where the posts would only be contributions to the effect of (example): COLOR: Magpul OD Green METHOD USED: RitDye, liquid/powder COLORS USED: (Color ratio recipe) WATER AMOUNT: # cups HEAT LEVEL: X EXPOSURE/DIP TIME: Y PROCEDURE: (Explanation) Followed by pictures of the finished product, and whatever reference material was used, be it an older magazine/stock/grip/hand guard/rail panel/etc in the case of replicating a Magpul color, or if a different color entirely, whatever other source imagery was utilized. Straightforward, to the point, no wading through the thread needed. OP would be updated with the index of colors, and what thread pages the color recipes could be found on. |
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What happened to:
"Magazines, regardless of model, will be available in black only by the end of 2014." ??? At the same time they are telling us they will make BLACK ONLY they are developing SAND? |
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What happened to: "Magazines, regardless of model, will be available in black only by the end of 2014." ??? At the same time they are telling us they will make BLACK ONLY they are developing SAND? View Quote There was a lot of negative feedback in the original thread. They probably shitcanned the idea in light of their potential customers possibly moving on to lancer, etc. |
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"Magazines, regardless of model, will be available in black only by the end of 2014."
...and in more than black in 2015. |
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I would like some M3 Sand 25 round .308 magazines please! :)
I'm doing a build right now on a Aero FDE .308 lowers with a FDE BCM grip and FDE B5 SOPMOD, would love some sand mags to go with it! :)
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