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What are ACRs going for nowadays? This thread actually made me interested in one....
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<a href="http://s35.photobucket.com/user/twpayne75/media/black%20rifles/20150810_180440_zpsggiew3ab.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/twpayne75/black%20rifles/20150810_180440_zpsggiew3ab.jpg</a> Got mine from Bud's a few weeks ago for $1485. View Quote Nice setup! I'm looking to purchase an ADM mount in tan with the same scope! |
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FWIW I've been contemplating an ACR purchase and would be down for an M-lok rail. Not interested in 1913 or keymod.
ALG offering, maybe? |
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This is actually really exciting. My personal gun collection just follows along with Geissele's trigger offerings lol.
Their triggers made me fall in love with AR15s, then it got me into a Scar17, then a Tavor, and I even picked up two AKs because of the ALG announcement. And now... it looks like I may have to learn about the ACR lol. Anyone wanna give me the skinny on them? Never heard of them before. P.S. Are rails or triggers easier to engineer and produce? There's gotta be a ton of CZ Scorpion owners out there chomping at the bit to get a trigger pack that can really lighten the pull weight for faster firing and 922r compliance! |
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This is actually really exciting. My personal gun collection just follows along with Geissele's trigger offerings lol. Their triggers made me fall in love with AR15s, then it got me into a Scar17, then a Tavor, and I even picked up two AKs because of the ALG announcement. And now... it looks like I may have to learn about the ACR lol. Anyone wanna give me the skinny on them? Never heard of them before. P.S. Are rails or triggers easier to engineer and produce? There's gotta be a ton of CZ Scorpion owners out there chomping at the bit to get a trigger pack that can really lighten the pull weight for faster firing and 922r compliance! View Quote Check out the ACR forum. Great info. Not a very vibrant place, but that might change soon. |
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This is actually really exciting. My personal gun collection just follows along with Geissele's trigger offerings lol. Their triggers made me fall in love with AR15s, then it got me into a Scar17, then a Tavor, and I even picked up two AKs because of the ALG announcement. And now... it looks like I may have to learn about the ACR lol. Anyone wanna give me the skinny on them? Never heard of them before. P.S. Are rails or triggers easier to engineer and produce? There's gotta be a ton of CZ Scorpion owners out there chomping at the bit to get a trigger pack that can really lighten the pull weight for faster firing and 922r compliance! View Quote I'm not going to SCAR bash; I believe nearly every weapon has its potential and its own strengths and weaknesses. The ACR is an excellent rifle that had a lot going for it but then slowed down due to bad publicity and support. Those of us who were die hard supporters ventured to private machinist to strengthen those weaknesses. The ACR disassembles faster and simpler than the SCAR, has full ambidextrous controls, and a common barrel system (ar15 barrels). It also accepts standard ar15 fire control groups. The modularity of the rifle exceeds that of the SCAR, being able to change out stocks, handguards, and barrels in less than 2 minutes. The real downsides are overall weight, poor support, odd ergonomics, and poor default options (1/9 twist, MBUS sights). I do get MOA groups or better with 75gr bullets but tends to open up as barrel temperatures rise. |
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I'm not going to SCAR bash; I believe nearly every weapon has its potential and its own strengths and weaknesses. The ACR is an excellent rifle that had a lot going for it but then slowed down due to bad publicity and support. Those of us who were die hard supporters ventured to private machinist to strengthen those weaknesses. The ACR disassembles faster and simpler than the SCAR, has full ambidextrous controls, and a common barrel system (ar15 barrels). It also accepts standard ar15 fire control groups. The modularity of the rifle exceeds that of the SCAR, being able to change out stocks, handguards, and barrels in less than 2 minutes. The real downsides are overall weight, poor support, odd ergonomics, and poor default options (1/9 twist, MBUS sights). I do get MOA groups or better with 75gr bullets but tends to open up as barrel temperatures rise. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is actually really exciting. My personal gun collection just follows along with Geissele's trigger offerings lol. Their triggers made me fall in love with AR15s, then it got me into a Scar17, then a Tavor, and I even picked up two AKs because of the ALG announcement. And now... it looks like I may have to learn about the ACR lol. Anyone wanna give me the skinny on them? Never heard of them before. P.S. Are rails or triggers easier to engineer and produce? There's gotta be a ton of CZ Scorpion owners out there chomping at the bit to get a trigger pack that can really lighten the pull weight for faster firing and 922r compliance! I'm not going to SCAR bash; I believe nearly every weapon has its potential and its own strengths and weaknesses. The ACR is an excellent rifle that had a lot going for it but then slowed down due to bad publicity and support. Those of us who were die hard supporters ventured to private machinist to strengthen those weaknesses. The ACR disassembles faster and simpler than the SCAR, has full ambidextrous controls, and a common barrel system (ar15 barrels). It also accepts standard ar15 fire control groups. The modularity of the rifle exceeds that of the SCAR, being able to change out stocks, handguards, and barrels in less than 2 minutes. The real downsides are overall weight, poor support, odd ergonomics, and poor default options (1/9 twist, MBUS sights). I do get MOA groups or better with 75gr bullets but tends to open up as barrel temperatures rise. I wouldn't say odd ergonomics, they're a vast improvement over the AR and SCAR. And it breaks down a lot quicker than 2 min. I can take down the whole rifle, barrel, stock, handguard and all in about 45 seconds. Also worth noting when comparing to the scar are the more ergonomic and much more durable folding stock and non reciprocating charging handle. As for groups I've gotten 1-1.5moa from the factory barrel which is normal. And just to brag, I get less than 1/2 moa from my JP supermatch barrel that it wears for competitions. |
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Definitely interested to see what comes out of this. I think M-LOK would nbe my preferred attachment method but I could live with Keymod as well. Integrated rails would be a no-go. The one thing it HAS to be is lighter then stock.
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I'll just add my voice to the mix. The recent price drop has moved the ACR back into my interests (likely my next rifle purchase) and an Mk8 style handguard with M-lok would be awesome. Glad you are considering it!
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I'll just add my voice to the mix. The recent price drop has moved the ACR back into my interests (likely my next rifle purchase) and an Mk8 style handguard with M-lok would be awesome. Glad you are considering it! View Quote I'm defintiely more interested too. But I've got several guns on my list before going what would essentially be a project gun. Also, ACR owners: read about peening from the charging handle being an issue. Has this been resolved? I think this would make an amazing SBR, but I have trouble spending cash on something that will destory itself from use. |
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I'm defintiely more interested too. But I've got several guns on my list before going what would essentially be a project gun. Also, ACR owners: read about peening from the charging handle being an issue. Has this been resolved? I think this would make an amazing SBR, but I have trouble spending cash on something that will destory itself from use. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll just add my voice to the mix. The recent price drop has moved the ACR back into my interests (likely my next rifle purchase) and an Mk8 style handguard with M-lok would be awesome. Glad you are considering it! I'm defintiely more interested too. But I've got several guns on my list before going what would essentially be a project gun. Also, ACR owners: read about peening from the charging handle being an issue. Has this been resolved? I think this would make an amazing SBR, but I have trouble spending cash on something that will destory itself from use. The peening stops after a certain number of rounds. |
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The peening stops after a certain number of rounds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll just add my voice to the mix. The recent price drop has moved the ACR back into my interests (likely my next rifle purchase) and an Mk8 style handguard with M-lok would be awesome. Glad you are considering it! I'm defintiely more interested too. But I've got several guns on my list before going what would essentially be a project gun. Also, ACR owners: read about peening from the charging handle being an issue. Has this been resolved? I think this would make an amazing SBR, but I have trouble spending cash on something that will destory itself from use. The peening stops after a certain number of rounds. The problem with the peening on the carrier and lugs is the result of improper torque. Most users assumed that the six o'clock was the proper setting of the barrel nut and therefore, the proper amount of torque... that simply isn't the issue. My ACR locks in at the 7 o'clock position. |
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The problem with the peening on the carrier and lugs is the result of improper torque. Most users assumed that the six o'clock was the proper setting of the barrel nut and therefore, the proper amount of torque... that simply isn't the issue. My ACR locks in at the 7 o'clock position. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll just add my voice to the mix. The recent price drop has moved the ACR back into my interests (likely my next rifle purchase) and an Mk8 style handguard with M-lok would be awesome. Glad you are considering it! I'm defintiely more interested too. But I've got several guns on my list before going what would essentially be a project gun. Also, ACR owners: read about peening from the charging handle being an issue. Has this been resolved? I think this would make an amazing SBR, but I have trouble spending cash on something that will destory itself from use. The peening stops after a certain number of rounds. The problem with the peening on the carrier and lugs is the result of improper torque. Most users assumed that the six o'clock was the proper setting of the barrel nut and therefore, the proper amount of torque... that simply isn't the issue. My ACR locks in at the 7 o'clock position. He's talking about about the peening that occurs on the forward end of the charging handle slot in the receiver. Yes it stops and doesn't cause any damage at all. It's because the charging handle was designed with some play in and the slot wasn't. But it's only cosmetic. I've fired thousands and thousands of rounds (about 600 or 700 a month since 2011) and treated it like crap and the peening hasn't gotten worse. It's also not something anybody has ever noticed, so it's hardly even cosmetic. I would liken it to the groove worn into my AR's brass deflector, only that may get worse. It's just a small thing that shows that you use your rifle to people that know where to look. |
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He's talking about about the peening that occurs on the forward end of the charging handle slot in the receiver. Yes it stops and doesn't cause any damage at all. It's because the charging handle was designed with some play in and the slot wasn't. But it's only cosmetic. I've fired thousands and thousands of rounds (about 600 or 700 a month since 2011) and treated it like crap and the peening hasn't gotten worse. It's also not something anybody has ever noticed, so it's hardly even cosmetic. I would liken it to the groove worn into my AR's brass deflector, only that may get worse. It's just a small thing that shows that you use your rifle to people that know where to look. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll just add my voice to the mix. The recent price drop has moved the ACR back into my interests (likely my next rifle purchase) and an Mk8 style handguard with M-lok would be awesome. Glad you are considering it! I'm defintiely more interested too. But I've got several guns on my list before going what would essentially be a project gun. Also, ACR owners: read about peening from the charging handle being an issue. Has this been resolved? I think this would make an amazing SBR, but I have trouble spending cash on something that will destory itself from use. The peening stops after a certain number of rounds. The problem with the peening on the carrier and lugs is the result of improper torque. Most users assumed that the six o'clock was the proper setting of the barrel nut and therefore, the proper amount of torque... that simply isn't the issue. My ACR locks in at the 7 o'clock position. He's talking about about the peening that occurs on the forward end of the charging handle slot in the receiver. Yes it stops and doesn't cause any damage at all. It's because the charging handle was designed with some play in and the slot wasn't. But it's only cosmetic. I've fired thousands and thousands of rounds (about 600 or 700 a month since 2011) and treated it like crap and the peening hasn't gotten worse. It's also not something anybody has ever noticed, so it's hardly even cosmetic. I would liken it to the groove worn into my AR's brass deflector, only that may get worse. It's just a small thing that shows that you use your rifle to people that know where to look. It was an in addition to, reply. Either way, let's leave the technical questions to the other ACR thread. |
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Lol sorry I forgot this was about handguards. I spend more time on ACRforums these days. I'm still down for 4 lol. |
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Oh man, this is awesome! We ACR owners have been jonesing bad for a real accessory company to bring an ACR handguard to market. I agree completely with the above posters, make it all-MLok and as light as possible. The ACR already suffers from nose-heaviness in stock form. I would look to the RemDef versions for inspiration, they look just about perfect in both design and feature set. While we're making suggestions, a shorter version for those of us with SBRs would be flippin' sweet. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/paintballplayer700/Guns/IMG_1581_zpsf5rrydrx.jpg View Quote And apparently weight. IIRC, the RemDef handguard is ~1/3rd of the railed enhanced. |
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The ACR is a great platform.
I would love to have a lighter hand guard. One from Geissele would be fantastic. |
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I'm in for one that matches the factory coyote color. I would prefer Keymod since that what all my AR's have, but could live w/ M-lok
CC standing by! |
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I would like one. M-lok or keymod. I would also like one so I coukd run a 10.5 or 12.5 barrel.
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I am not using the ACR trigger in my ACR, I am using just a normal SD-E
I would buy a MK8 for my ACR |
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Here is a pic for inspiration; this Airsoft handguard would actually be decent if it was a tight fit... <a href="http://s5.photobucket.com/user/buddyhoohaw/media/ACR/photo14_zpsd4e4350d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/ACR/photo14_zpsd4e4350d.jpg</a> Cheers View Quote sort of want.gif |
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I agree with the others. $1500 was the "original" Mapgul quoted price when it was still the Masada. $1500 is what I and a lot of others told Magpul would be a good buy in price for gun owners wanting to check out this platform. Now that you can pick one up from Bud's for $1500 and under, that is exactly what I am doing. I think there is gonna be a surge of new ACR owners here soon. I've held both the enhanced and basic when they were still asking $2500 to $3000 and it reminds me of the MR556 or LMT MWS....all that weight at the front w/out anything attached to the front isn't confidence inspiring. Those things can be fixed now with Marvin, Randall, or the guys at ADCO, and if Mr. G man himself starts offering rails, well I would say it's a good time to be an ACR owner or prospective buyer.
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Got a SSD-e? Trigger in mine and would love an MLOK or keymod hand guard!!!
Looking forward to this! |
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I'd be in for one in tan, as long as the weight was equal or less than the factory basic fore end
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I know this is a hell of a gamble, but since Mr. G himself said a rail is most likely on the way, I went ahead and bought an ACR, with a Geissele trigger already with it. I have one more request since you and your wife's company are very familiar with machining and ask that you possibly look at the ACR trunion and see how hard it would be to make a non QD trunion for the ACR ala RemDef.
I would gladly place a full price pre-order if that was required. |
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Once the price hit 1500 I picked up a coyote enhanced and dropped in a sd3g. Love the gun except for weight and the stock trigger. I would definitely buy a better handguard. If some accessories start hitting the street and the price stays this low I can see more people going for the ACR.
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My ACR is arriving Monday. Haven't been this excited for SHOT in a while.
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It's official....I'm SHOT '16 ready for some Geissele ACR goodness.... https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/632/23754173276_f67043d8dd_h.jpg View Quote Nice! I love the KAC sights too. Now make it dirty. |
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