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1/30/2012 5:02:22 PM EDT
Was it announced or did anyone hear when Colt was going to release the 6940P on the market. Just gotta have one. Its a COLT ya know. Thanks in advance for any info.
1/30/2012 5:19:51 PM EDT
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Was it announced or did anyone hear when Colt was going to release the 6940P on the market. Just gotta have one. Its a COLT ya know. Thanks in advance for any info.


+1
1/30/2012 5:42:20 PM EDT
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if i was you, if i wanted another colt rifle too, I would go ahead and buy it

and not worry if i had enough money for the P model
1/31/2012 5:17:24 AM EDT
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I would expect to see distributors filling orders literally any day now.
1/31/2012 8:59:12 AM EDT
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Definately interested in how they set up their piston, All i keep hearing is it is a closely guarded secret.
1/31/2012 9:29:57 AM EDT
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Definately interested in how they set up their piston, All i keep hearing is it is a closely guarded secret.


Well I don't know why; it isn't going to be once people have them in their hands.
1/31/2012 5:53:29 PM EDT
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Definately interested in how they set up their piston, All i keep hearing is it is a closely guarded secret.


Well I don't know why; it isn't going to be once people have them in their hands.


i tihnk they will sel out so fast to  a certain crowd  that no  heavy shooter will get hands on one for at least 6 months after it comes out.  unless some poor slob buys one off some asshole dealer on ebay for 5K

makes me think of the ACR  ( of course but with real quality and a purpose)   but how  the 1st dezalers to get them asked a fuckin fortune for them online

maybe we can see a pic of one taken apart at least  even if not handle one
1/31/2012 6:27:10 PM EDT
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Am I missing something?  

I thought the 6940P was their "standard" piston design, the APC, not the AHC.  Am I wrong?  I know the CM901 literature has mentioned the AHC upper, but I was not aware that there were currently plans to release it.

I was furthermore under the impression that the AHC was the more "closely guarded" design, and that the APC was simply a refinement of the LE1020, the operating components of which have been well documented and widely published.  I had been assuming that the 6940P was simply the production variant, and that changes would be more in the range of small refinements, not a new, "secret" operating system from the 1020.  

As for the AHC, I'm vaguely curious about what "hybrid piston / DI" could even possibly mean, since the nomenclature is imprecise anyways, as the "DI" action of the AR is actually nothing more than an internal piston design.  I'm kind of just imagining a standard AR with an extended and maybe telescoping carrier key, and maybe a return spring somewhere, but I could be very wrong about that.

~Augee
1/31/2012 7:20:17 PM EDT
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Am I missing something?  

I thought the 6940P was their "standard" piston design, the APC, not the AHC.  Am I wrong?  I know the CM901 literature has mentioned the AHC upper, but I was not aware that there were currently plans to release it.

I was furthermore under the impression that the AHC was the more "closely guarded" design, and that the APC was simply a refinement of the LE1020, the operating components of which have been well documented and widely published.  I had been assuming that the 6940P was simply the production variant, and that changes would be more in the range of small refinements, not a new, "secret" operating system from the 1020.  

As for the AHC, I'm vaguely curious about what "hybrid piston / DI" could even possibly mean, since the nomenclature is imprecise anyways, as the "DI" action of the AR is actually nothing more than an internal piston design.  I'm kind of just imagining a standard AR with an extended and maybe telescoping carrier key, and maybe a return spring somewhere, but I could be very wrong about that.

~Augee




the 6940P is just standard piston from what I understand

i dont know where everyone is getting this hybrid stuff and thinking it will be out any day, stuff from.  i guess that 901 literature mentioning it got the rumor mill going out of control
2/1/2012 5:26:10 AM EDT
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Am I missing something?  

I thought the 6940P was their "standard" piston design, the APC, not the AHC.  Am I wrong?  I know the CM901 literature has mentioned the AHC upper, but I was not aware that there were currently plans to release it.

I was furthermore under the impression that the AHC was the more "closely guarded" design, and that the APC was simply a refinement of the LE1020, the operating components of which have been well documented and widely published.  I had been assuming that the 6940P was simply the production variant, and that changes would be more in the range of small refinements, not a new, "secret" operating system from the 1020.


Makes perfect sense, I hadn't considered that people had confused the APC and AHC.

You're dead-on about the LE1020 evolving into the APC\6940P.
2/1/2012 8:31:18 AM EDT
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A piston system on a 16" barrel seems pretty silly to me, but if the market demands it, then you better give em what they want!

Now a 10.3" MK18 with a piston might perk my interest. In fact, I think the KAC QDSS-NT4 would probably just live on it.
2/5/2012 11:40:17 AM EDT
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I noticed Knesek has these listed on their website now for $2010. Don't know if they're actually in stock.
2/6/2012 12:53:07 PM EDT
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I noticed Knesek has these listed on their website now for $2010. Don't know if they're actually in stock.


Awesome
2/6/2012 1:18:19 PM EDT
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the 6940P is just their standard piston design, its nothing special.

so far there hasnt been any real news about their hybrid system and i doubt we will ever see it, though it is interesting.
2/6/2012 4:35:12 PM EDT
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the 6940P is just their standard piston design, its nothing special.

so far there hasnt been any real news about their hybrid system and i doubt we will ever see it, though it is interesting.


What information do you have on their standard piston design and why isn't it special? I haven't seen it before.
2/6/2012 5:15:17 PM EDT
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the 6940P is just their standard piston design, its nothing special.

so far there hasnt been any real news about their hybrid system and i doubt we will ever see it, though it is interesting.


What information do you have on their standard piston design and why isn't it special? I haven't seen it before.


Do a search for the LE1020.  

There is extensive photographic documentation of the operating parts of the piston available online.  The 6940P is the finalized production variant, and while there may be some slight revisions based on continued testing, there's no information to suggest that it will be significantly different from that design.

~Augee
2/7/2012 5:11:41 AM EDT
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the 6940P is just their standard piston design, its nothing special.

so far there hasnt been any real news about their hybrid system and i doubt we will ever see it, though it is interesting.


What information do you have on their standard piston design and why isn't it special? I haven't seen it before.


Do a search for the LE1020.  

There is extensive photographic documentation of the operating parts of the piston available online.  The 6940P is the finalized production variant, and while there may be some slight revisions based on continued testing, there's no information to suggest that it will be significantly different from that design.

~Augee


The specific changes are that the piston itself was redesigned and now has rings, the piston can move independently of the op-rod (to prevent binding), and the upper receiver has a cam pin plate.

2/7/2012 5:13:58 AM EDT
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I would have bought one of these 3 or 4 years ago when they were first advertised, however after owning (1) LWRC M6A3 and (2) LMT MRP piston guns since then I will pass.  I just don't see enough advantage over DI to warrant the extra cost and proprietary parts.  I still have (1) MRP piston gun but rarely shoot it.

Cheers
2/7/2012 5:19:33 AM EDT
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I would have bought one of these 3 or 4 years ago when they were first advertised, however after owning (1) LWRC M6A3 and (2) LMT MRP piston guns since then I will pass.  I just don't see enough advantage over DI to warrant the extra cost and proprietary parts.  I still have (1) MRP piston gun but rarely shoot it.


Certainly seems late to the party doesn't it.
2/7/2012 8:17:45 AM EDT
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I noticed Knesek has these listed on their website now for $2010. Don't know if they're actually in stock.


Just called. They are not in stock but he is expecting(they are coming) the shipment of them any day now.
2/7/2012 8:20:52 AM EDT
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I would have bought one of these 3 or 4 years ago when they were first advertised, however after owning (1) LWRC M6A3 and (2) LMT MRP piston guns since then I will pass.  I just don't see enough advantage over DI to warrant the extra cost and proprietary parts.  I still have (1) MRP piston gun but rarely shoot it.

Cheers


I hear ya. I am/have been selling off all my piston guns. I will have just one and that will be the Colt 6940p just because I need it.
2/7/2012 8:25:06 AM EDT
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the 6940P is just their standard piston design, its nothing special.

so far there hasnt been any real news about their hybrid system and i doubt we will ever see it, though it is interesting.


What information do you have on their standard piston design and why isn't it special? I haven't seen it before.


Do a search for the LE1020.  

There is extensive photographic documentation of the operating parts of the piston available online.  The 6940P is the finalized production variant, and while there may be some slight revisions based on continued testing, there's no information to suggest that it will be significantly different from that design.

~Augee


Thanks. Looked it up and I like the spring design better than anything I have seen. Seems like the usual tightly coiled springs could be a failure point with small gravel jamming or wearing but who know.
3/2/2012 6:03:31 AM EDT
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Any new word on the release of the le6940p?
Thanks,
Whitearrow