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7/4/2013 12:26:09 PM EDT
I am on my 3rd one now and none of them will lock the bolt back on an empty magazine. It's a PredatAR using all new mags of various manufacturers. I posted several weeks ago and got recommendations. I tried the Troy lever and the Phase 5 Tactical lever. The Phase 5 locked the bolt back only once out of a dozen mag changes. I don't know what else to do but go back to the original setup. Any help will be appreciated.
7/4/2013 1:05:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Time to go back to old school! My Costa didnt care for the badlever!
7/4/2013 1:39:46 PM EDT
[#2]
I have a BAD lever on my M&P but a Phase 5 on the Larue I built.  Had the same problem intermittently.   After much troubleshooting and buffer experimentation, I ended up talking to someone in Tech Support at Larue.  Based on his recommendation, I installed an empty mag, placed the butt stock on a bench, and pulled back the charging handle.   The first three times, it worked as advertised. The fourth time, the bolt didnt lock back.   That is when I realized that the Phase 5 lever was not returning consistently to the proper position.  I found an extensive write up on the problem on SigForum.   It theorized that the normal spring was not designed for the extra mass of the Phase 5 or BAD lever.  That person experimented with trimming off  a coil or two from that spring.   I sent an email to Phase 5 on this.  The president of the company called me and left a message that he could help but subsequent attempts to contact him have been unsuccessful.  I will try to find that post on SigForum and post a link if I can find it.
7/4/2013 1:55:09 PM EDT
[#3]
I've been running a BAD lever on my tAR for over a year now and not a single hiccup yet.
7/4/2013 3:19:38 PM EDT
[#4]
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I've been running a BAD lever on my tAR for over a year now and not a single hiccup yet.


Which one please?

7/4/2013 3:42:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Having seen battery assist levers on high speed video, no way would I use one no matter how much faster I can load a round.
7/4/2013 3:53:55 PM EDT
[#6]
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Having seen battery assist levers on high speed video, no way would I use one no matter how much faster I can load a round.


What happened?
7/4/2013 4:36:33 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Having seen battery assist levers on high speed video, no way would I use one no matter how much faster I can load a round.


What happened?


They basically bouce around. The added mass at the end of the lever keeps the lever moving too long and makes it a crap shoot to return consistantly into place. There's enough clearance typically that the lever "pretty much works", but its not truely repeatable.

This is just from watching one-piece levers too. The "add on" like the magpul would experience increased movement.
7/4/2013 6:23:30 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Time to go back to old school! My Costa didnt care for the badlever!


My Costa doesn't like it either.
7/4/2013 10:31:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've been running a BAD lever on my tAR for over a year now and not a single hiccup yet.


Which one please?



Which one what? BAD lever? MAGPUL BAD Lever is what I use. No problems here. I know two other tAR owners with the same BAD lever and  same results...no problems.
7/5/2013 9:12:42 AM EDT
[#10]
16" ptar 5.56 BAD works 100%