Posted: 6/27/2024 11:38:59 AM EDT
| Got my bushwhacker 36 a while back and man i am super happy with it. Originally my main objective was to supress my 350 legend deer rifle i built a couple years ago. Started doing some research and realized the bushwhacker would run on several of my guns. Sounds great on the deer rifle. Also 7.62 ak, 5.56 ak pistol, 11.5 to 18 inch ar's with the 30 cal endcap.And on a glock with 147's its just a big pooof and you hear the action clack. For what is a do all can i am very impressed! Have not tried on 22lr yet but i already have a rimfie can. |
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Happy for ya. At this point I think I have more $ in Griffin muzzle devices than I have in their cans. The combinations are endless or so my wallet says. |
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Originally Posted By fenrisulfr: Good to hear. Currently waiting 180 plus days for mine. It sure does seem like a great do it all can. Does it sound good with just the standard .36 end cap on your AR's and whatnot? I would check E-forms. Sometimes the approval happens and nobody is notified. That happened to a guy here in customer service and he waited like 4 extra months or something. |
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Originally Posted By aimatdeer: Got my bushwhacker 36 a while back and man i am super happy with it. Originally my main objective was to supress my 350 legend deer rifle i built a couple years ago. Started doing some research and realized the bushwhacker would run on several of my guns. Sounds great on the deer rifle. Also 7.62 ak, 5.56 ak pistol, 11.5 to 18 inch ar's with the 30 cal endcap.And on a glock with 147's its just a big pooof and you hear the action clack. For what is a do all can i am very impressed! Have not tried on 22lr yet but i already have a rimfie can. Yeah it sounds too good to be true but it works really nice on everything I've shot it on. A lot of people don't think it should happen and tell people not to buy multi-cal cans for that reason. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: I would check E-forms. Sometimes the approval happens and nobody is notified. That happened to a guy here in customer service and he waited like 4 extra months or something. Silly me did a paper form 4. It was my first one so I thought it would be cool to get an actual stamp. I did however e form a Optimus Micro that was was approved in under 48 hours. Really like that can. |
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I've got a Shaw MK9 sub gun can and a Checkmate HD rimfire on order. I'd like another can for the 9mm PCCs that can also be used on my 300blk, 556 ARs and 308 ARs. I'm not really interested in this being a pistol can, though it may work. I've got several 9mm pistols. I've got several SuperSafeties, so these cans may see auto-fire like circumstances from time to time. So far I keep coming back to the Bushwacker 36 (with appropriate endcaps). Here are the use candidates. The MP5Ks are 3 lug. Undecided if the ARs will be 3 lug or use something like the taper mount instead. (2) MP5k clones 300blk 8" AR 9mm 5" AR (RDB) 9mm 5" AR (blowback) several 556 AR 308 AR I know the "don't buy a multical suppressor" argument, but most things I've come across state the Bushwacker performs very well in general, not just for a multical. I know I'll end up with additional dedicated suppressors, but it seems like the BW36 is "good enough" that it'll still be in use even after dedicated cans are acquired. Ideas on this? |
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Originally Posted By Green0: The only thought I have is maybe also look at the Sportsman.36. It offers a lower price and might sound a touch better on a 9mm pcc. |
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Then I think you have the right product. I think the .46’s sell a lot more and I feel like that doesn’t make sense as a lot of people would be better served with a BW.36. I would not be surprised if a lot of the .46 customers don’t have a caliber over 9mm diameter to suppress but just wanted to leave options open. I know one guy personally who owns a pair of .46’s and mentioned he uses them exclusively on .30 caliber rifles. He’s a sales engineer for a local CNC machine tool dealer. He’s happy with them, but I tried to convince him to make one a .36. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: Then I think you have the right product. I think the .46's sell a lot more and I feel like that doesn't make sense as a lot of people would be better served with a BW.36. I would not be surprised if a lot of the .46 customers don't have a caliber over 9mm diameter to suppress but just wanted to leave options open. I know one guy personally who owns a pair of .46's and mentioned he uses them exclusively on .30 caliber rifles. He's a sales engineer for a local CNC machine tool dealer. He's happy with them, but I tried to convince him to make one a .36. |
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I have over 30 cans myself and still bought a BW36. Mainly because of the hub threads and being the quietest 9mm SMG can that GA made (at the time). Also because it is user-serviceable. I am also very impressed with the spring loaded front end cap design. I just tried it out recently with the 7.62x39 build pictured below. 11.5" and mid gas for suppressed only use.  |
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The spring in the 3-lug is 700f service temp. Just something to stay aware of with drums. There was an end user once that baked one on a 9mm subgun with like 280 rds of back to back mag dumps. The issue is if the spring stops pushing, the can can become miss aligned. Thats a neat application for the can. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: The spring in the 3-lug is 700f service temp. Just something to stay aware of with drums. There was an end user once that baked one on a 9mm subgun with like 280 rds of back to back mag dumps. The issue is if the spring stops pushing, the can can become miss aligned. Thats a neat application for the can. |
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@amphibian 's input is the reason I went with the MK9 can from Shaw, as well as the BW36 from Griffin. Also the reason I went with the Bixler style 3-lug from Shaw. If that style mount will work with all calibers, I may put that on them all just for the sake of simplicity. I've got the 3-lug on my MP5ks (well, AP5ks) for the MK9 and the BW36. I plan on putting 3 lugs on my AR 9mms and 300blk as well, just to make it fast and easy to swap the cans. These guns / calibers are the primary reasons I bought the MK9 and BW36. That the BW can be used on my 556 and 762 guns is just a bonus. I was planning on using the Griffin taper mount on the 556 and 762 guns, but if the Bixler 3-lug style is acceptable there that gives some additional options. Although I'm not sure if the 3-lug offers significant advantage over the Griffin taper mounts...you're unscrewing / reattaching either way. I ordered went with 3-lug on my first two cans because I plan on using them on the MP5s, and anything other than 3-lug on an MP5 seems sacrilegious! I suspect I'll eventually end up with more dedicated cans and do less swapping...The MK9 was my first can, received in January. I currently have a BW36 and Checkmate HD awaiting approval from Griffin / Capitol Arms. I remember when I kept swapping wheels on my DRZ400. Dirt wheels/tires for dirt riding, street wheels/tires for street riding. Made for an inexpensive, though inconvenient, way to have "2" bikes. Eventually I just coughed up and bought a dedicated KTM Supermoto. It was much more convenient then. I think cans will be the same way. |
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Originally Posted By motoguy: @amphibian 's input is the reason I went with the MK9 can from Shaw, as well as the BW36 from Griffin. Also the reason I went with the Bixler style 3-lug from Shaw. If that style mount will work with all calibers, I may put that on them all just for the sake of simplicity. I've got the 3-lug on my MP5ks (well, AP5ks) for the MK9 and the BW36. I plan on putting 3 lugs on my AR 9mms and 300blk as well, just to make it fast and easy to swap the cans. These guns / calibers are the primary reasons I bought the MK9 and BW36. That the BW can be used on my 556 and 762 guns is just a bonus. I was planning on using the Griffin taper mount on the 556 and 762 guns, but if the Bixler 3-lug style is acceptable there that gives some additional options. Although I'm not sure if the 3-lug offers significant advantage over the Griffin taper mounts...you're unscrewing / reattaching either way. I ordered went with 3-lug on my first two cans because I plan on using them on the MP5s, and anything other than 3-lug on an MP5 seems sacrilegious! Here are some pro's / con's. Pro's: 1. 3 lug is so old now and is basically open source with various manufacturers making quality adapters. 2. When discussing the Bixler mount version, there are NO springs to fail from heat and the lockup is rock solid unlike the spring loaded 3 lug mounts. 3. As referenced in Bixler's patent, (which has expired) it IS a TAPER mount. Relying on interfacing with the 30 degree taper of the 3 lug mount. 4. Unlike most suppressor mounts, you can 'clock' it to 3 different positions as one position may be a sweet spot. 5. With the Bixler nut being only 1.125" OD, it will fit under just about any rail in existence while spring loaded 3 lug mounts have a larger diameter and will not go under skinny rails. Con's: 1. Can be a little longer than other mounting systems. 2. Not totally idiot proof. You need make sure to give it tug that the nut is actually behind the lugs. 3. Maybe a few seconds slower to mount / unmount....but bear in mind you don't completely unscrew the nut, just enough to clear the lugs. 4. If you do want to use it for rifle caliber, it doesn't have any kind of integrated sacrificial blast baffle like some muzzle devices do. I know may debate this capability. Now I do know there are some 3 lug adapters that have slots cut in them to do this but IMHO, that is a bad idea and they get fouled up. All that said, I have run full auto .308 with an old AWC 3 lugged can. Also, you can get 3 lug adapters various thread patterns including 5/8-24 which many 762 guns are threaded. |
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I've had the BW36 for about a year and a half now and really enjoy it's performance. Probably have around 3k rounds through it. Used on Glocks, AR's, Kuna and bolt guns. I find it does a good job at keeping the noise levels very tolerable with subsonic ammo. 9mm and 300blk are very quiet. It is on the heavy side and can be a little gassy at times. Built like a tank for sure. |