Posted: 2/12/2010 5:58:23 AM EDT
| woo hoo! first post as member. Any way, I'm debating on whether or not to take both the carbine and pistol class or just both carbine classes. For those of you that have taken the carbine classes how much instruction is there with your secondary? Ive got both DVDs and have seen that in the second carbine class the secondary is used a lot, though I didn't see a lot of instruction with it. From personal experience what can ya'll tell me? Is there a substantial enough taught in the classes for a person who is about to go to basic? Due to the fact that im 20 i dont get to train that often with a handgun and want to be well versed with it in tactical situations before I go in. |
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I'd say you should take the Handgun Class before Carbine 1 if you can work it out that way. Here is why I say that: During our Carbine class some of the advanced Transition to Secondary drills were cut short due to the fact that some in our class were too fatigued and inexperienced with their handguns to continue safely. Simple as that - SAFETY FIRST. FWIW: I have progressed through 6 or 8 handgun classes (not Magpul)and Magpul's Carbine 1 and am already signed up for their Handgun 1 (June) and Carbine 2 (Oct). If I can square away the time and money I will try to take another Carbine 1 BEFORE the Carbine 2. IMHO you can't train too much... Edited for some clarity. Disclaimer: I'm just a .CNRG (.civ, nobody, regular guy) so take my opinion for what it's worth. |
I appreciate that. The reason I ask is College drains allot of cash these days. I can only afford two classes right now and probably only one my senior year. I'm just trying to get the best for my money and time. I will definitely be taking more classes after basic and will continue to train after that. Just want to have a leg up when basic gets here. 
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Yeh...I remember the days of tuna and noodles (we didn't call it "pasta" back then) as a college student. It was extra hard for us because we had to wait for the professsor to show up in his buckboard. And if one of his mules threw a shoe on the way to town he could be half a day late  .Seriously...kudos to you for being a young person that doesn't think they already know it all and being willing to place what little money you do have towards firearms training. |
I've only done Handgun 1 & 2, and I'll be doing Carbine 1 next month. I can tell you the handgun training was AWESOME,, and very applicable to me as a civvy. You mentioned Basic Training, so I'm assuming you're ROTC, or you're joining up after college. If it were me, I would probably do Handgun 1 and Carbine 1, to try to lay down as solid a foundation as possible before you go in harms way. Stay safe brother, and train hard!
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I've only done Handgun 1 & 2, and I'll be doing Carbine 1 next month. I can tell you the handgun training was AWESOME,, and very applicable to me as a civvy. You mentioned Basic Training, so I'm assuming you're ROTC, or you're joining up after college. If it were me, I would probably do Handgun 1 and Carbine 1, to try to lay down as solid a foundation as possible before you go in harms way. Stay safe brother, and train hard! coming from AL to LA? if dnt have any experience on a pistol system, then the cnrg is correct.... :) pistol is a good starting point for a shooting foundation. |
| I have experience on the M4 platform. Ive built 8 and am on my 9th (side hobby to make money). Took a class last year in Florida, bot with magpul though. Ive been to the range numerous times with my father to shoot handguns but only target shooting. No drills or anything like that. |
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I'm willing to bet you should be able to find a small basic handgun class around you AO before the Magpul class. SC usually hosts some pretty good classes from what I have seen.
EDIT:Here are some in NC that you might look into. Tigerswan 1 day basic pistol Vickers 1 day basic pistol Lots more here |
I would have to agree with the previous, I would give my left nut to take a MD carbine class but I have never had any formal training so Im starting out with thier Hangun 1&2 class in Pueblo this coming June then next year I will be planning on Carbine. Cant wait!  Good luck and stay safe.
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I've only done Handgun 1 & 2, and I'll be doing Carbine 1 next month. I can tell you the handgun training was AWESOME,, and very applicable to me as a civvy. You mentioned Basic Training, so I'm assuming you're ROTC, or you're joining up after college. If it were me, I would probably do Handgun 1 and Carbine 1, to try to lay down as solid a foundation as possible before you go in harms way. Stay safe brother, and train hard! coming from AL to LA? if dnt have any experience on a pistol system, then the cnrg is correct.... :) pistol is a good starting point for a shooting foundation. I sure am! You and I have been talking bout lights, holsters, suppressors and that sort of thing! Look forward to seeing you 
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For the average Joe, ie guys that arent in the military or law enforcement the Magpul Handgun classes are absolutely priceless.
If i could choose one class to repeat on a yearly basis it would be the Advanced Handgun class without a doubt. No other class in their curriculum is more applicable to our daily lives than a class focused around a tool that many of us have made a lifestyle choice. Take the handgun classes and dont look back. If you want to diversify, take at least a basic handgun class and a basic carbine class. You will walk away from both with a ton of knowledge and alot of things to work on for the rest of the year. Having said that, the entire course offering from Magpul is worth the money but it makes sense to prioritize your training. Bottom line...have fun and absorb the info like a sponge, you will be well served to do so. |
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I'd say you should take the Handgun Class before Carbine 1 if you can work it out that way. Here is why I say that:
During our Carbine class the Transition to Secondary drills were cut short due to the fact that some in our class were too inexperienced with their handguns to continue safely. Simple as that - SAFETY FIRST. Disclaimer: I'm just a .CNRG (.civ, nobody, regular guy) so take my opinion for what it's worth. Well that sucks. So if you ended up taking the handgun course 1st, and others did not you`ll still get screwed out of transitioning to your pistol. |
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Well that sucks. So if you ended up taking the handgun course 1st, and others did not you`ll still get screwed out of transitioning to your pistol. Not really (sorry I gave you that impression  I see how it reads now). The basic transition drills went fine. It only unravelled a bit on the third, 10 hour, 100+ degree day of the class. Chris and Travis agreed to push the class into some of the Carbine-2 stuff. When the fatigue and lack of experience combined to show the potential for an unsafe situation...they cut it off. Like I said "Safety First". I, nor anyone I spoke to, had any problem with the decision. We were just glad they showed us some "extra" stuff.Under normal circumstances if there is a class member who is not up to speed safety-wise, they will just show him the gate and continue on with the rest of the group. Trust me - you won't feel short-changes at the end of a class!! |
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Well that sucks. So if you ended up taking the handgun course 1st, and others did not you`ll still get screwed out of transitioning to your pistol.
Not really (sorry I gave you that impression I see how it reads now). The basic transition drills went fine. It only unravelled a bit on the third, 10 hour, 100+ degree day of the class. Chris and Travis agreed to push the class into some of the Carbine-2 stuff. When the fatigue and lack of experience combined to show the potential for an unsafe situation...they cut it off. Like I said "Safety First". I, nor anyone I spoke to, had any problem with the decision. We were just glad they showed us some "extra" stuff.
Under normal circumstances if there is a class member who is not up to speed safety-wise, they will just show him the gate and continue on with the rest of the group. Trust me - you won't feel short-changes at the end of a class!! I would like to go to any of the classes, but none of them are within a few hours drive. The closest one is in Indiana with his clear across, Pa, Oh, etc |