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2/16/2015 5:39:05 PM EDT
On the heels of Brackeen22’s thread I wanted to comment on firearms safety.

The way he know to check a firearm is to visually and physically inspect but we can and do fall into bad habits.

Physically checking by sticking your finger into a dirty gun means a dirty finger and the possibility of having it smashed if the slide or bolt goes forward. So it becomes easy to just look but the problem with just looking is we look for and expect to see an empty chamber. The mind is the most powerful tool we have and it can be programmed to see what we want. You can look at a loaded chamber and trick yourself into seeing an empty chamber; I have seen it happen and I have done it myself.  

However, if you perform the physical check it becomes obvious if something is there. This is where a chamber flag becomes your best friend and should be in your range bag or gun case. You should have one in your gun safe or gun cabinet or where ever you store your firearms. They are not expensive, they are not hard to use and they could very well save you from an embarrassing or painful situation. Stop thinking you are being safe by simply looking into the chamber, use something to confirm what you think you are seeing.


Chamber Flags
2/16/2015 6:21:22 PM EDT
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I'm obsessive/compulsive about cleaning my firearms after every trip. After I'm done shooting I drop bcg's into a ziploc bag. My firearms can't go off since they're non functional until after I've cleaned them.

Those are a pretty good idea though.
2/16/2015 7:02:26 PM EDT
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sound advice,...I've always do the visual followed by a second visual check after returning the bolt back into battery the first time kinda like a double tap


maybe I should start using the chamber flags instead
2/16/2015 7:12:50 PM EDT
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http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/11/how-use-chamber-flag-hot-ar

This article says don't use them while the AR is still hot or it will melt the plastic into the chamber.
It recommends running them down into the magazine well.

I have never used them. Would I just stick it down the magazine well and them let the flag hang out, and then let the bolt close down on the chamber flag?
2/17/2015 4:53:39 AM EDT
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http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2013/11/how-use-chamber-flag-hot-ar

This article says don't use them while the AR is still hot or it will melt the plastic into the chamber.
It recommends running them down into the magazine well.

I have never used them. Would I just stick it down the magazine well and them let the flag hang out, and then let the bolt close down on the chamber flag?
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I'm not saying to leave it in the chamber. Stick the flag in the chamber to ensure it is empty and take it back out. its just an alternative to using your finger But more effective.
2/17/2015 5:57:00 AM EDT
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I received some with my LT rifle SWAG box and they are great.  I never used chamber flags before, but I do now.  

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2/17/2015 9:29:24 AM EDT
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Just buy a rifle every time you need chamber flags, life's better that way.

2/17/2015 9:34:46 AM EDT
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Larue has chamber flags for sale but if you choose the 5 pack the price says $7.00 until you select it then it changes the amount to $10.00 so there's a discrepancy on the site.
2/17/2015 9:27:55 PM EDT
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Larue has chamber flags for sale but if you choose the 5 pack the price says $7.00 until you select it then it changes the amount to $10.00 so there's a discrepancy on the site.
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Price says + $7.00. Key to this is the + sign.
2/17/2015 9:46:39 PM EDT
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We have been using chamber flags at all of our 3 gun matches for years. They aid in ensuring that the firearms in not capable of firing during transportation to and from each stage.
2/17/2015 10:26:01 PM EDT
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We have been using chamber flags at all of our 3 gun matches for years. They aid in ensuring that the firearms in not capable of firing during transportation to and from each stage.
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When I shot 3-Gun I used a mag well plug between stages....
Like this... It held the BCG back & was easy to see thru the ejection port.......










 
2/17/2015 10:28:28 PM EDT
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Price says + $7.00. Key to this is the + sign.
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Larue has chamber flags for sale but if you choose the 5 pack the price says $7.00 until you select it then it changes the amount to $10.00 so there's a discrepancy on the site.



Price says + $7.00. Key to this is the + sign.


I saw that too, one is $3, five are $10

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2/18/2015 12:25:26 PM EDT
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When I shot 3-Gun I used a mag well plug between stages....



Like this... It held the BCG back & was easy to see thru the ejection port.......



http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m6d3Al1JjOsTxt9hEzffkRA.jpg

 
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We have been using chamber flags at all of our 3 gun matches for years. They aid in ensuring that the firearms in not capable of firing during transportation to and from each stage.
When I shot 3-Gun I used a mag well plug between stages....



Like this... It held the BCG back & was easy to see thru the ejection port.......



http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m6d3Al1JjOsTxt9hEzffkRA.jpg

 
The only problem with those is you'll need different types for your pistol and shotgun. I use the ones with the long thin plastic tail that fits I the barell. Fits in all types of weapons and due to the curve in the tail, it stays in even with the action locked back. I keep several in my range bag.

 
2/18/2015 1:13:04 PM EDT
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Fan of the Saf-T-Round. -  ejectable chamber flag. Good for patrol duty carry - visible sign of empty chamber. With a full mag already inserted, all you do is pull/release the charging handle to eject the flag and load a round.
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/cartridge-dummies/saf-t-round-prod1609.aspx