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Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
Glad you asked. I forgot to mention that Colt is making about 2300-2600 of the 6920 and 6940 a month. Originally Posted By El_Abogado:BTW, it looks like Colt will be cranking up production to have 1000-1300 available a month.
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Originally Posted By Skillshot:
Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
Glad you asked. I forgot to mention that Colt is making about 2300-2600 of the 6920 and 6940 a month. Originally Posted By El_Abogado:BTW, it looks like Colt will be cranking up production to have 1000-1300 available a month.
So, which is it? Buddy, if I knew I would tell you. Reading is fundamental and I understand that the combined production of the 6920 and 6940 will be in the mid-2000 range, of which 45% to 55% will be 6940s. If I knew with more precision, I would have posted it, don't you think? |
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I can read just fine, thanks.
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I just got off the phone with the head of LE sales/armory at colt, And asked about the 6940 and got some great info he said I could share!!!
1st. the FCG pins are spec on this model, it will start the change over to all normall trigger pins. Also the 6940 is meant to replace the 6920, the idea being you dont have to spend extra on a rail, BUIS ites, etc. The bottom does come off like said and the new special barrel nut is a lot easier to remove the barrel. While i talked to him. He told me that yes, colt made all of their major components and always have, that means the lowers too, cause I asked. All civilian guns are made off the same line, there is no extra plant, factory or line etc for civilian sales rifle. he told me the 1020 will not be made cause the government told colt they didnt want a piston and colt made one and tested it to find that is had no advantage over DI and even was worse at some things He told me it was just a fad that will pass when all the other companies pistons started seeing the problems colt found in them years ago. ALl civy rifles are tested to the same quality as military guns. he said colt made combat weapons for battle and the men who use them. Fit and finish is not their priority. And of course as we all know, Other companies guns are different because thery dont know some of the tricks colt knows about how to make a true combat rifle. as for a debate in the retro forum. the sporter slabside lowers where not A2s machined to not have the mag fence, colt atually ordered A1 type forgings up until the id 80s and went to A2 when they ran out of A1 cause it was easier to use one and the difficulty in making large hole lowers in A2. He told me how the front site locked up with spring tension and lock washers etc, but it was a bit more than my simple mind understood thereis more but I am so excited I am having trouble remembering it all. i will post more when I can. He also told me he use to post here and is a member but stopped posting about 3 years ago, after too many guys tried to argue with him and tell him he was wrong about how colts are made He does still lurk here though and I told him my screen name and told him he is more than welcome to post in the colt forum and he would be more than welcome, so I want to show my thanks to him for is time. he spoke to me for almost 45 minutes. now that the FCG pins are going to be spec, what are the haters going to gripe about? |
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
What will they gripe about? Sand in their v––––-s, that's what!
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yeah thats true. they will still hold it against them for the older models.
One thing he told me was he read on here of someone saying use a 9mm buffer in a gun. he told me never do that and to use the 9mm for 9mm and he would not advise some of the parts swapping he has seen guys on here do. |
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
I drank a case of beer, just to watch it die!
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Glad to hear they are going back to spec on the FCG pins. I may just have to pick me up a semi-auto Colt finally. ...then again I don't know if I can handle not having a fun switch...
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"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." -George S. Patton
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Originally Posted By Predator:
Glad to hear they are going back to spec on the FCG pins. I may just have to pick me up a semi-auto Colt finally. ...then again I don't know if I can handle not having a fun switch... it will be hard man. but we non NFA guys will be here to support you lucky SOB |
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
I drank a case of beer, just to watch it die!
OR, USA
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"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." -George S. Patton
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I now know what it means to hate someone
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
<John Wayne>Well, Pilgrim, it ain't a 6940! </John Wayne>
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Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
I now know what it means to hate someone Nice Commando! |
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Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
What will they gripe about? Sand in their v––––-s, that's what! Great to hear, Shawn! Next, they'll start complaining about the machined selector detents- "See! Colts aren't milspec!" I hope he'll start posting here again, at least in the Colt forum, it would be great to have an insider. And I'm glad to hear that about 9mm buffers, I keep trying to tell people not to mess with the operating system, but of course, they just ignore me. I guess it makes me a Kool-Aid drinker and a Colt-whore to trust the specs they decided on after doing a lot more testing than I have the time and money to conduct. ~Augee |
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well I invited him to post in here and told him he wouldnt be messed with, but after some recent trolling I may have been made a liar
He told me he left basicaly because one person that constantly nagged him. But I am sure us in here would make him feel at home. ANd if he is reading this. please feel free to IM any of us or post...PLEAAAASEEE!!! |
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
This is great news!!!!
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Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
well I invited him to post in here and told him he wouldnt be messed with, but after some recent trolling I may have been made a liar He told me he left basicaly because one person that constantly nagged him. But I am sure us in here would make him feel at home. ANd if he is reading this. please feel free to IM any of us or post...PLEAAAASEEE!!! Are you talking about Bill C. I hope he posts here |
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Still no pics of a personally-owned 6940?
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I drank a case of beer, just to watch it die!
OR, USA
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Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
Still no pics of a personally-owned 6940? Does anyone actually own one? I would love to see a close up of the FCG pins and of course all of the beautiful markings! |
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." -George S. Patton
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I drank a case of beer, just to watch it die!
OR, USA
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Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
<John Wayne>Well, Pilgrim, it ain't a 6940! </John Wayne> No but it does have a "fun switch"! |
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." -George S. Patton
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Originally Posted By Predator:
Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
<John Wayne>Well, Pilgrim, it ain't a 6940! </John Wayne> No but it does have a "fun switch"! Yes it does! |
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I could'nt find any information on Colts website. When do you think it will be available?
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The "oracle" says next week. We'll see. . . .
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What is the reason Colt finally decided to go with the smaller in-spec pins?
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I never thought to ask, but I am sure its just because there is not much point to the larger ones, or maybe the handful of guys in GD and the tech forum who boycott them because of it, finally brought them on the verge of economic collapse.
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
I never thought to ask, but I am sure its just because there is not much point to the larger ones, or maybe the handful of guys in GD and the tech forum who boycott them because of it, finally brought them on the verge of economic collapse. No... I don't think that could be it. Colt will soon have all the blue on the chart now and all my money. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Colt will soon have all the blue on the chart now and all my money. 6940 + Colt Rail Gun. ~Augee |
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Man I can feel that rail gun in my hand now! I think this is going to be a painful year for my wallet
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
I drank a case of beer, just to watch it die!
OR, USA
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Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
The "oracle" says next week. We'll see. . . . Has anyone talked to the oracle? I haven't heard anything and the week only has a couple hours left here on the west coast! |
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." -George S. Patton
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My oracle is now saying early summer
Oh well. Not like we haven't waited before (see 1020 Advanced Carbine) I honestly don't mind or need to be 1st. I'll be content to see a bunch of department 6940's show up here and there before ours roll out.............and they will |
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Gotta love it. . . .
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Not to beat the dead horse (no pun intended).
Will all 6940's come with .155" FCG pins? From day one? Or will they use the existing 6920 lowers that still may be around with .170" pins? Anyway to verify, or would it be better to wait to order till they get through the bigger pin lowers? Did they just walk in one day and say, change all the 170 drills and reamers to 155, now! Will the newest 6920's come with small pins? |
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ALL 6940s will have the milspec pins
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
ALL 6940s will have the milspec pins As they continue to build the 6920 until it fades out, will newly made 6920s have the old, larger diameter FCG pins or the replacement milspec pins? |
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from what he said I take it the newer 6920s will ahve the standard pins too. Im not sure when it will start in the production of them though. I asked a lot of questions and was moving fast. Since it both guns use the same lower maybe as soon as the next batch of 6920s are made. To be honest I didnt linger on the fact because the size of the pins are as about ar important to me as a cloudy day. I only posted it because I know some people loose sleep over it and haters use it to bitch about. SO, once he said it I said cool, and moved on to another subject. Sorry I dont have more detail I just didnt think there would be so much interest about it
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Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend
Thanks to Peepshowal!!! "only fear and lack of skill drives men to want bigger calibers." -stormwalker |
bye-bye...VA-gunnut
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Somewhere recently I saw some pics of the handguard taken apart and a pic of the barrel nut. Anyone know a link to the site?
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I drank a case of beer, just to watch it die!
OR, USA
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Originally Posted By Flattop_Colt:
bye-bye...VA-gunnut Please explain this. Feel free to PM me. Thanks. |
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Predator, better discussed off-line. . .
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Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
from what he said I take it the newer 6920s will ahve the standard pins too. Im not sure when it will start in the production of them though. I asked a lot of questions and was moving fast. Since it both guns use the same lower maybe as soon as the next batch of 6920s are made. To be honest I didnt linger on the fact because the size of the pins are as about ar important to me as a cloudy day. I only posted it because I know some people loose sleep over it and haters use it to bitch about. SO, once he said it I said cool, and moved on to another subject. Sorry I dont have more detail I just didnt think there would be so much interest about it I recall some folks posting that their recently purchased 6920's came with the .155 pins about 4 months ago... |
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Well, I placed my order with Phoenix today for my 6940. Now the wait begins.
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Nice. . . .
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Originally Posted By flashbang756:
Well, I placed my order with Phoenix today for my 6940. Now the wait begins. What is their ETA on the 6940 and 6920? |
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Originally Posted By LockingBlock:
Originally Posted By flashbang756:
Well, I placed my order with Phoenix today for my 6940. Now the wait begins. What is their ETA on the 6940 and 6920? I didn't ask him specifically about the 6920. But for the 6940 he said that they are telling people 90 days right now. He said sometimes it's less but it's a good gauge. |
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Originally Posted By flashbang756:
Originally Posted By LockingBlock:
Originally Posted By flashbang756:
Well, I placed my order with Phoenix today for my 6940. Now the wait begins. What is their ETA on the 6940 and 6920? I didn't ask him specifically about the 6920. But for the 6940 he said that they are telling people 90 days right now. He said sometimes it's less but it's a good gauge. Do they charge your card at the time of the order or when it ships? |
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Originally Posted By LockingBlock:
Originally Posted By flashbang756:
Originally Posted By LockingBlock:
Originally Posted By flashbang756:
Well, I placed my order with Phoenix today for my 6940. Now the wait begins. What is their ETA on the 6940 and 6920? I didn't ask him specifically about the 6920. But for the 6940 he said that they are telling people 90 days right now. He said sometimes it's less but it's a good gauge. Do they charge your card at the time of the order or when it ships? When it ships. |
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Anybody know what the price range these things are going for? Where would be the best place for me to get on a backorder list? Thanks!
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The first one with fairly detailed photos is on GB.
ETA: Although originally I was crazy about the 6940, its growing on me. I'll probably have want to own one. |
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I drank a case of beer, just to watch it die!
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Originally Posted By Sabre223:
The first one with fairly detailed photos is on GB. ETA: Although originally I was crazy about the 6940, its growing on me. I'll probably have want to own one. Ahhh .154 FCG pins! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123742894 |
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The pictures comport with the one I handled at a friend's house. Where do you see .154 FCG pins?
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