Colt M4 Commando Lowers Back In Stock (Page 3 of 6)
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Originally Posted By DanielAU: Yes it is a complete upper receiver assembly, ready to go. We also started offering the SCW as a pistol, shortest profile lower receiver on a direct gas AR platform https://armsunlimited.com/colt-scw-556-semi-auto-pistol-10.3-barrel/ Is this the first legit (per ATF) Colt AR Pistol ? Thanks for the opportunity for the Commando Lower. Ordered one yesterday. |
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Originally Posted By Rlett4: Does anyone know positively that these are not rifle takeoffs ,and can be used to make a pistol out of ?? They positively are not rifle takeoffs. They are new production lower receivers. With that said, I cannot vouch for the legality of making a pistol with one because I do not have any knowledge of how the lowers are registered to AU. Perhaps @DanielAU will pop in here and provide you some additional info for you. |
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Originally Posted By FrankW134: Is the internal cut still the Colt style, or have they opened up to standard lower shelf? Here are photos of my new production 'Commando' lower. Attached File Attached File As much as people want to see select-fire ready lowers come from Colt and be available on the commercial market, I don't believe we will ever see it. Colt is very risk adverse...especially after the dismantling of Remington in court. Additionally, the risk/presence of "lawfare" by Democrats does not make the commercial presence worthwhile for the manufacturer. All it takes is one lawsuit and any profit from the handful of folks that want select-fire capable lowers is instantly wiped out by legal costs. Just my worthless .02 cents. YMMV. |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Here are photos of my new production 'Commando' lower. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20241205_164155_jpg-3398736.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20241205_164159_jpg-3398739.JPG As much as people want to see select-fire ready lowers come from Colt and be available on the commercial market, I don't believe we will ever see it. Colt is very risk adverse...especially after the dismantling of Remington in court. Additionally, the risk/presence of "lawfare" by Democrats does not make the commercial presence worthwhile for the manufacturer. All it takes is one lawsuit and any profit from the handful of folks that want select-fire capable lowers is instantly wiped out by legal costs. Just my worthless .02 cents. YMMV. |
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Originally Posted By DanielAU: The lowers arrived as just receivers. Stripped? As in " Edit: Looking at the pics posted here by Minuteman1636 showing the factory staking they appear to be completed lowers in current configuration. Fix't. 
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Stripped? As in "other" by definition? Or assembled lower receivers in current configuration? Edit: Looking at the pics posted here by Minuteman1636 showing the factory staking they appear to be completed lowers in current configuration. I called Colt and they told me mine was built in September 2024 and left as a complete lower assembly only. SN#LE702XXX. |
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Originally Posted By DanielAU: As in they are logged into our books as "RECEIVERS", which is what they are. Edited above, MISC was what I meant. As in, they were reported by Colt as what configuration for AFMER reporting? "Logged into our books as" has not always been accurate with many an FFL , IME. |
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Originally Posted By securenet: I called Colt and they told me mine was built in September 2024 and left as a complete lower assembly only. SN#LE702XXX. Originally Posted By securenet: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Stripped? As in "other" by definition? Or assembled lower receivers in current configuration? Edit: Looking at the pics posted here by Minuteman1636 showing the factory staking they appear to be completed lowers in current configuration. I called Colt and they told me mine was built in September 2024 and left as a complete lower assembly only. SN#LE702XXX. Thanks man. |
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Originally Posted By DanielAU: AFMER does not ask serials and AFMER does not have receivers listed as FET is not paid on incomplete firearms. Originally Posted By DanielAU: AFMER does not ask serials and AFMER does not have receivers listed as FET is not paid on incomplete firearms. Originally Posted By DanielAU: The lowers arrived as just receivers. So they were type classified as MISC FIREARMS by Colt? |
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| I do not do their AFMER reports but would assume so. They came to us as receivers, they leave us as receivers, they arrive to your FFL as receivers, they transfer to you on a 4473 as receivers. Why you are hung up on this, or what you are trying to get at, is beyond me. |
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Originally Posted By DanielAU: I do not do their AFMER reports but would assume so. They came to us as receivers, they leave us as receivers, they arrive to your FFL as receivers, they transfer to you on a 4473 as receivers. Why you are hung up on this, or what you are trying to get at, is beyond me. The guys wanting pistol configuration ARs are going to be particularly interested in provenance. If they are part outs from factory rifles that definitely alters the landscape. |
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Originally Posted By fullmedaljacket8: Yeah no way for me. Originally Posted By fullmedaljacket8: Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: lol, at that price I guess I'll have a hot minute or two to think about it. Yeah no way for me. Same here. I'd love an M4 Commando lower (I already have a complete 6933 upper for it) but I just can't get into the laser engraved lowers. The selector stops are nice and I know all the arguments for and against laser engraving but its just not for me. If any of you guys with the older roll marked Commando lower are willing to let one go for a non rapey price hit me up (I, know I won't be holding my breath lol) |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Here are photos of my new production 'Commando' lower. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20241205_164155_jpg-3398736.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20241205_164159_jpg-3398739.JPG As much as people want to see select-fire ready lowers come from Colt and be available on the commercial market, I don't believe we will ever see it. Colt is very risk adverse...especially after the dismantling of Remington in court. Additionally, the risk/presence of "lawfare" by Democrats does not make the commercial presence worthwhile for the manufacturer. All it takes is one lawsuit and any profit from the handful of folks that want select-fire capable lowers is instantly wiped out by legal costs. Just my worthless .02 cents. YMMV. Thank you sir. |
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Originally Posted By airgunner: If any of you guys with the older roll marked Commando lower are willing to let one go for a non rapey price hit me up I have one I could probably be talked out of. It might not be P-Diddy rapey but you are definitely getting a ruffie in your drink. 
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Any chance au can do a special run on the 12” colt commando barrels. https://www.apexgunparts.com/colt-ar-barrel-12.0inch-npf-new.html |
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Originally Posted By Sleepym4: Any chance au can do a special run on the 12” colt commando barrels. https://www.apexgunparts.com/colt-ar-barrel-12.0inch-npf-new.html I lucked out way after the fact and found that piece of the puzzle. |
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Originally Posted By Bret: I think the laser engraving looks better myself and think of it as a product improvement. To each their own but seeing what prices look like on older roll marked lowers vs newer laser engraved lowers I'd have to say you are in the minority. That may be at least partly because of the bogus presumptions that a lot of people make about "pre" and "post" "CZ Colts" but whatever the reason, the roll marked lowers do seem to bring a premium over the newer laser marked version. ETA - For me, its not just that I don't think they look "better" (which I don't) but my real issue with them is... they look fake. Like someone laser engraved an 80% lower. The fact that they now have selector stop just kind of reinforces that perception in my mind but like I said, to each their own. |
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Originally Posted By airgunner: To each their own but seeing what prices look like on older roll marked lowers vs newer laser engraved lowers I'd have to say you are in the minority. That may be at least partly because of the bogus presumptions that a lot of people make about "pre" and "post" "CZ Colts" but whatever the reason, the roll marked lowers do seem to bring a premium over the newer laser marked version. ETA - For me, its not just that I don't think they look "better" (which I don't) but my real issue with them is... they look fake. Like someone laser engraved an 80% lower. The fact that they now have selector stop just kind of reinforces that perception in my mind but like I said, to each their own. I agree with you on that. |
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Originally Posted By airgunner: To each their own but seeing what prices look like on older roll marked lowers vs newer laser engraved lowers I'd have to say you are in the minority. That may be at least partly because of the bogus presumptions that a lot of people make about "pre" and "post" "CZ Colts" but whatever the reason, the roll marked lowers do seem to bring a premium over the newer laser marked version. ETA - For me, its not just that I don't think they look "better" (which I don't) but my real issue with them is... they look fake. Like someone laser engraved an 80% lower. The fact that they now have selector stop just kind of reinforces that perception in my mind but like I said, to each their own. Exactly my feelings. I’ll take it a step further. I hate the QR code and stopped buying Colt rollmarked lowers after they started engraving with QR. I didn’t buy the original rollmarked m4 commando or m4a1 property marked lowers because of the QR codes. In hindsight this was a mistake. That said, laser engraved is the new factory correct and these m4 commando lowers overall look great. |
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Originally Posted By Quake_Guy: What about the ones offered as SBRs? Are those Colt Factory SBRs or "born" SBR via AU? Is there a barrel length on the form? If I remember correctly, Daniel at AU answered this question in this thread or in another a few weeks ago. I was concerned because I didn't want AU's markings on the receiver. According to what Daniel wrote, they use Colt's markings but AU files the paperwork. I have Commando and SCW lower halves on the way from AU, so I'll update when my dealer creates my Form 4's. |
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Picked up my Commando Lower today Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Bret: That looks great, but wouldn't a SCW lower be more appropriate for that upper? Of course, getting whatever you want is most appropriate, but I'm just asking. Possibly , except for the fact that I have had this upper in my gunroom since this came out years ago ..I bought one of each length from 10.5” to 16”when they were first offered .so for now I will save the money |
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Originally Posted By Bret: You could always sell it to me.  That would purchase a Commando upper and then some. Of course, that's a pretty cool setup as-is, so I can understand keeping it as pictured.https://penngunshop.com/product/colt-le6945cqb-m4-cqb-monolithic-commando-rifle-with-10-3-barrel/ in case you’re interested they are available |
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| Thanks for the link. Fortunately, I already have the LE6940, LE6943, LE6944 and LE6945 rifles. When they were available, I didn't buy additional 6945 upper half because I didn't anticipate needing one, didn't know about the Colt SCW and certainly didn't anticipate AU offering properly marked SCW lower halves. So, now I'm on the hunt for a newish condition 6945 upper half to pair with the SCW lower half that's on the way to me. I've only found one source and it's $1,178 which is too close in price to a complete rifle. Plus, my anal retentiveness won't allow me to break up a factory rifle. |
| The ABSOLUTE best part of these new batch of Colt Commando lowers from AU is the fact that you can get an actual SBR Commando Lower with the form designating COLT as the true manufacturer of said lower. At least that's how I look at it. It's tough when I have so many AR15's to take the plunge on another lower/gun, but I did. :) |
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Originally Posted By Apec: Is anyone having issues with mags not dropping free on their lower? Mine will not drop metal usgi Colt/Okay mags freely. It will only drop steel FN mags free (after all they are heavy) I just tried an empty colt 20round magazine in my commando lower and it dropped free multiple times ,Possibly you’re mag release might need backed off a turn or twoAttached File |
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Originally Posted By DanielAU: BUT, we do have about 30 of the Colt SCWs as complete rifles with 6940 series 10.3" uppers installed. We listed them today and will get proper pics up this week https://armsunlimited.com/colt-scw-carbine-5-56mm-semi-auto-10-3-monolithic-short-barrel-rifle-w-side-folding-stock/ What comes with them? Is it the usual accessory pack and rear sight? Rail covers? Bayo lug (I've seen it with and without)? |
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Originally Posted By Rlett4: I just tried an empty colt 20round magazine in my commando lower and it dropped free multiple times ,Possibly you’re mag release might need backed off a turn or twohttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160387/IMG_9701_jpeg-3403895.JPG Originally Posted By Rlett4: Originally Posted By Apec: Is anyone having issues with mags not dropping free on their lower? Mine will not drop metal usgi Colt/Okay mags freely. It will only drop steel FN mags free (after all they are heavy) I just tried an empty colt 20round magazine in my commando lower and it dropped free multiple times ,Possibly you’re mag release might need backed off a turn or twohttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160387/IMG_9701_jpeg-3403895.JPG Not an issue with the mag catch. I had it pressed in deep enough that it could not possibly touch the magazine, and it still wouldn’t work. |
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Now I have to decide what Colt Upper to get with my Commando lower- do I go old school and get the traditional upper, or do I go with the new M5 Commando upper? Looking for thoughts from you guys.. I have several older colt uppers, might be kind of cool to go with the M5. |