[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt please read (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/30/2011 6:00:35 AM EDT
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Yes, I too would like to see a 20" 1/7 twist, govt profile M16 A4 style rifle, with a nice SPORTER M16 RIFLE roll mark, SPORTER being optional.
And while I'm making suggestions, more parts for sale on the website. Like LPK's, stocks, buffers, and magazines. To be honest, I don't like the Roger's stock very much either. |
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To all of the above posts...... A huge thumbs up. I wish I won the lottery so I could buy Colt and bring back the following
A4 government 20" 1/7 twist A1 Vietnam retro 20" government Colt python, king cobra, anaconda Colt double action revolver line like the diamond back in 22lr Colt Ace 1911 22lr. Colt Lighning Colt 9mm 1911's More series 70 guns less series 80 Tons of different uppers, parts kits and such on the Internet. |
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I ask colt a question and am waiting for a reply. hope you are a very patient man that is used to not always getting an answer i will take a shot at answering your question though because most people dont want a A2 or A4 just a small niche market every person I ever met that had a 20 inch rifles as their 1st AR wished they had a carbine. |
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There are many factors that go in to our choice of models. The same goes for what is for sale on our site. I cannot make any promises, but I can tell you we will continue to focus on the consumer market. Brent As of today, does Colt have the production capacity to offer a wider selection of ar15 parts online? It seems like a safe bet that there are 500 or so 6933 owners out there that would order a 11.5 6940 upper off your webpage. I am curious if the decision to not offer these is a production issue or simply a market decision. 6940 uppers online direct for $999 would seem better than 6920s to dealers for $800. Also, maybe its time to stop the m4 profile barrels on the SP line. A 5.56 6940 with the same barrel profile i've seen on the cm901 would be nice. |
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How about if you make it, or have made it for the .gov, make it for us as a semi-auto. A Colt classic line would get some sales if it was done correctly.
Sell a limited edition SP1 replica with M16A1 features like a mag fence and small pivot hole. An M16A2 and M16A4 replica would be nice with the government profile barrel and lug. Mark them smart too. AR15-A1, AR15-A2 and AR15-A4 would be ideal with no Sporter or Match Target markings. |
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Production capacity is not an issue. Brent I think what needs to be said is that Colt owners are much like Apple product owners. They are very loyal and try to stay within the brand if possible. If Colt needed a scanned tax stamp in order to order short barreled uppers online, these customers would comply. I also do not understand why Colt does not have an ar15 custom shop. 6940 uppers with whatever barrels and optics the consumer wants. Set up an online order page and let the customer select their options. It just seems like with just a flip of a switch, Colt could take all the wind out of the ACR,SCAR,etc.. sales. |
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Colt really could own the entire AR market if they expanded their offerings. I would take an M16A4 or A2 clone in a second... remake the SP1 and you will be loved by many.
Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. Even having all small lower and upper replacement parts available online would offer the standard that no other company can match. If Colt really is focused on the customer, there is much to learn in this and the other thread... heres to hoping for the best. |
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please!  It would only give the mid-lengthers something else to crow about. 
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please! I agree with an_hero the middy gas system is no big deal. Your preferred method of dealing with gas port erosion? |
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please! I agree with an_hero the middy gas system is no big deal. It isn't that it is no big deal but sure, Colt should make a midlength carbine. Most of the parts are already made and all they would have to do is change the barrel, gas tube and handguards. They should diversify a little while still keeping their roots and not jumping the shark with tacticool stuff. Changes are fine if they take little to no tooling changes like a midlength would. Also, if they make it in an Hbar then they should also make it in a government profile. That is my one major concern with all AR15 brands, not just Colt. Tons of people buy the MT6601 and other models and immediately start looking for a government profile barrel from somewhere else. There is no need for that. I know that the Hbar was a design for target shooters but most people seem to not want an Hbar these days. They want a handy and light defense or field rifle. If that wasn't true places like Bravo Company USA wouldn't be struggling to keep government profile uppers in stock. They are already making the things we want they just seem to assemble it into weird or heavy combinations with no threaded barrel for the consumer to piece together a military style clone. Their roll marks are also absurd on some models. They like happy and warm terms like Hbar, Sporter, Match, and other non-threatening terms and mark them .223 when most people want 5.56mm on there. Mark them all for what they should be, AR15 rifles and M4 carbines. They have the ability to make a product that is what everybody wants straight out of the box but never seem to get it just right. Heck, I just bought a Magpul version of their 6920 because of the M4 Carbine roll mark and I plan to strip the Magpul stuff straight off. They left the sporter marking on the version with the standard military style furniture. That was a real silly move they got it completely backward. |
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please! I agree with an_hero the middy gas system is no big deal. It isn't that it is no big deal but sure, Colt should make a midlength carbine. Most of the parts are already made and all they would have to do is change the barrel, gas tube and handguards. They should diversify a little while still keeping their roots and not jumping the shark with tacticool stuff. Changes are fine if they take little to no tooling changes like a midlength would. Also, if they make it in an Hbar then they should also make it in a government profile. That is my one major concern with all AR15 brands, not just Colt. Tons of people buy the MT6601 and other models and immediately start looking for a government profile barrel from somewhere else. There is no need for that. I know that the Hbar was a design for target shooters but most people seem to not want an Hbar these days. They want a handy and light defense or field rifle. If that wasn't true places like Bravo Company USA wouldn't be struggling to keep government profile uppers in stock. They are already making the things we want they just seem to assemble it into weird or heavy combinations with no threaded barrel for the consumer to piece together a military style clone. Their roll marks are also absurd on some models. They like happy and warm terms like Hbar, Sporter, Match, and other non-threatening terms and mark them .223 when most people want 5.56mm on there. Mark them all for what they should be, AR15 rifles and M4 carbines. They have the ability to make a product that is what everybody wants straight out of the box but never seem to get it just right. Heck, I just bought a Magpul version of their 6920 because of the M4 Carbine roll mark and I plan to strip the Magpul stuff straight off. They left the sporter marking on the version with the standard military style furniture. That was a real silly move they got it completely backward. you are throwing the term "everybody wants" around a lot, but thats not the case just cause some guys over in the tech and A2 forum want a A2 clone with a A2 barrel doesnt mean the bulk of agencied ( who colt sales too) and new 1st time buyers want them its a niche market adn its a waste of time to make A4s adn A2 clones for a small market when they can sell M4 types all day long I djont know why its so hard for some people to believe that the vast majority of buyers dont give a fuck for rifels with A2 barrels or even barrels 20 inches long period I aint saying it doesnt suck, but tis just the truth.. They barely make any HBAR rifle snow anyway. look at the website. the 6601 is gone and so are a few other. why? no one wants them. justr guys buying one to make into a clone every blue moon as for the roll marks, apparently you have not seen the M4 carbine adn M4 5.556 marked lowers? they are changing that the middy is still another time waster for them. they are not gonna make a gun adn then use some other MFGs idea baout how to do it or what gasport size etc. they likely dont feel its worth it or is as tested/dependable as they think it should be. word is they are working on a middy though anyway, there has been some big changes made lately an a lot of stuff coming out. I I feel that we will not see a A2 or A4 clone from them , ever, adn I dont blame them for not bothering with it. hell most of the guys cloning those guns dont care if its a colt anyway, |
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please! I agree with an_hero the middy gas system is no big deal. It isn't that it is no big deal but sure, Colt should make a midlength carbine. Most of the parts are already made and all they would have to do is change the barrel, gas tube and handguards. They should diversify a little while still keeping their roots and not jumping the shark with tacticool stuff. Changes are fine if they take little to no tooling changes like a midlength would. Also, if they make it in an Hbar then they should also make it in a government profile. That is my one major concern with all AR15 brands, not just Colt. Tons of people buy the MT6601 and other models and immediately start looking for a government profile barrel from somewhere else. There is no need for that. I know that the Hbar was a design for target shooters but most people seem to not want an Hbar these days. They want a handy and light defense or field rifle. If that wasn't true places like Bravo Company USA wouldn't be struggling to keep government profile uppers in stock. They are already making the things we want they just seem to assemble it into weird or heavy combinations with no threaded barrel for the consumer to piece together a military style clone. Their roll marks are also absurd on some models. They like happy and warm terms like Hbar, Sporter, Match, and other non-threatening terms and mark them .223 when most people want 5.56mm on there. Mark them all for what they should be, AR15 rifles and M4 carbines. They have the ability to make a product that is what everybody wants straight out of the box but never seem to get it just right. Heck, I just bought a Magpul version of their 6920 because of the M4 Carbine roll mark and I plan to strip the Magpul stuff straight off. They left the sporter marking on the version with the standard military style furniture. That was a real silly move they got it completely backward. you are throwing the term "everybody wants" around a lot, but thats not the case just cause some guys over in the tech and A2 forum want a A2 clone with a A2 barrel doesnt mean the bulk of agencied ( who colt sales too) and new 1st time buyers want them its a niche market adn its a waste of time to make A4s adn A2 clones for a small market when they can sell M4 types all day long I djont know why its so hard for some people to believe that the vast majority of buyers dont give a fuck for rifels with A2 barrels or even barrels 20 inches long period I aint saying it doesnt suck, but tis just the truth.. They barely make any HBAR rifle snow anyway. look at the website. the 6601 is gone and so are a few other. why? no one wants them. justr guys buying one to make into a clone every blue moon as for the roll marks, apparently you have not seen the M4 carbine adn M4 5.556 marked lowers? they are changing that the middy is still another time waster for them. they are not gonna make a gun adn then use some other MFGs idea baout how to do it or what gasport size etc. they likely dont feel its worth it or is as tested/dependable as they think it should be. word is they are working on a middy though anyway, there has been some big changes made lately an a lot of stuff coming out. I I feel that we will not see a A2 or A4 clone from them , ever, adn I dont blame them for not bothering with it. hell most of the guys cloning those guns dont care if its a colt anyway, I never said the 20" rifles would sell anywhere near the amount of M4 style rifles. The point was that a 20" government profile barrel with a FH and lug would sell better than the 20" plain Hbar. If you read above I also posted that I did buy one of the new M4 Carbine marked Magpul 6920 carbines. I bought it simply because the regular 6920 is still marked Sporter and several places told me the regular carbine is still coming in as a Sporter. I plan on swapping the Magpul furniture off of it for regular Colt stuff. As far as your bottom statement, most of those guys building the clones do care if it is a Colt. That's why they pay premuim prices for surplus Colt parts. It is seen in the EE here all the time. No matter what you say, if Colt made it like I am saying it would sell. A Colt factory AR15-A4 would make the BCM upper not as attractive simply because one says Colt on it. |
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There are many factors that go in to our choice of models. The same goes for what is for sale on our site. I cannot make any promises, but I can tell you we will continue to focus on the consumer market. Brent Brent, I appreciate you reading these threads and taking into consideration what we are posting. Have you seen what Colt Pythons are bringing on Gunbroker? $1,800 and in some instances upper $2,000 mark. Also, have you seen the M-16/AR-15 Retro forum? over 34 pages of pics of people using parts that aren't Colt to make a Vietnam era Colt or such like their daddy had, what Grandpa had....and in cases what people grew up with the SP1. There are other examples as well of other models. I am an LEO (9 years) Brent, I go to several ranges and shoot with numerous people. I hear what they are saying. I have even spoken with General Keyes about quality control and he told me how hard all of you at Colt are working to get it back to the Colt that we know and have grown up loving. The General took care of me when I had a horrible issue with a Single Action Army. I would be willing to talk to you anytime if want my number. |
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Shawnmt6601, please take it easy on me. I know we disagree on what masses want. I have read a ton of your posts and understand your point of view. You say its a niche market...how do you know? Are you a marketing guy for Colt? Is there data to support that? I am on the grassroots level and hear what the shooters want and see what they settle for out of lack of options. Everything is a niche market technically. Have you even shot an A2, an SP1, a Python? Everything doesn't have to be practical.....sometimes its just fun for me to grab an M1 carbine and plink with 100 rounds and reflect on what WW2 was like and then watch Band of Brothers. My dad was in Vietnam, I like grabbing my department issued M-14 and shooting for fun. M1 carbines are not practical anymore, but I still have fun. Shooting is supposed to be fun and I would have a lot more fun shooting some of these models that are not made anymore.
Why was the Springfield GI 1911 such a huge it....its simple and fun....it didn't have to have a lowered/flared ejection port, front slide serrations and such. The sights suck, but its fun and brings people back to the good ole days. I also find it challenging to shoot with those sights. Same goes for an A2 and if you ask police instructors, they say the A1 upper is the best upper/sight for Practical Policing ever made. I have been to the large Indianapolis gun shows at the fair grounds and people are constantly looking for the Pythons, the Series 70's, 9mm Colts, and such. They are looking for Smith Pre Locks and all that good ole stuff. That stuff sells, its does. Colt can be like everyone else and make the cookie cutter 16" carbine......AND they can also make the good ole stuff that will elevate them above everyone else. That good ole stuff IS what made Colt a legend. People want a COLT....they don't want a Nodak Spud repro and such, but they are settling due to no other options...... Business is about taking a risk. Colt took a risk to made the Reproduction WWI/WW2 1911's and look what they are going for on gunbroker......the same price as a USGI WWII Colt. It works! They were a smash hit! Take that one step further with a Vietnam repro....they already have the vendors/tooling Look at the 9mm A1 upper? They have what it takes and they are masters.....take a risk please. Put me down for a Vietnam Retro with a 1/7 twist pencil thin barrel, a Government A2 20", a A4 Government 20" like our troops have (semi), a Colt Python, I am not rich, I only make $58,000 a year, but I can make it work and I want to buy Colts! |
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If you look at the 1911 forums on another site, the Colt Forum routinely has 73-100 people viewing any given minute for the entire day!!!!!. You look at Kimber and they have maybe 10 reading in their forum. Colt has 20,000 posts/threads and all the others pale in comparison (maybe 3,500 threads/posts)....
Colt has the customer base ready and willing just for them......Their customers have so much loyalty for Colt.......These people have stuck with Colt through thick and thin. The loyal base began a long time ago.....generations ago......and their kids grew up/were taught to shoot on Colts and now the grandkids (me) are being taught the same. That is all I was taught.....Colt or nothing. If you build it, they will buy it! I will buy it. I would be willing to go to ranges/gun shows with questioners and do focus group studies.....thats where your answers will be. Do focus groups on topics ranging from roll marks, to models, to customer service. Do it at the grassroots level where people are shooting, talking about guns, local rifle club meetings, NRA meetings, and people going to gun shows. People don't want to be told what to buy or told what roll mark to like......, ask them what they want. These are the people that buy gun magazines and read these forums. Wouldn't Colt like to do a few studies to see what we want in the form of roll marks instead of them making a roll mark we dont like then fielding a bunch of phone calls of us bitching about how it looks? I should have gone to college majoring in marketing instead of policing LOL. I wish Colt did more marketing in the NRA magazines and on the TV shows. That Umarex company does more advertising than Colt using the Colt trademark they bought than Colt does with its own stuff. Kimber does more marketing....I can't flip a page in the NRA magazine without running into a Springfield Armory or Kimber ad......but I still want a Colt, not a Brazilian 1911 or a series 80 MIM parted out gun. Sorry for the rant, but if we don't tell them, how will they ever know? I love Colt!!! call me LOL |
I have one of those it's called the MT6700-A4.
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please! I agree with an_hero the middy gas system is no big deal. It isn't that it is no big deal but sure, Colt should make a midlength carbine. Most of the parts are already made and all they would have to do is change the barrel, gas tube and handguards. They should diversify a little while still keeping their roots and not jumping the shark with tacticool stuff. Changes are fine if they take little to no tooling changes like a midlength would. Also, if they make it in an Hbar then they should also make it in a government profile. That is my one major concern with all AR15 brands, not just Colt. Tons of people buy the MT6601 and other models and immediately start looking for a government profile barrel from somewhere else. There is no need for that. I know that the Hbar was a design for target shooters but most people seem to not want an Hbar these days. They want a handy and light defense or field rifle. If that wasn't true places like Bravo Company USA wouldn't be struggling to keep government profile uppers in stock. They are already making the things we want they just seem to assemble it into weird or heavy combinations with no threaded barrel for the consumer to piece together a military style clone. Their roll marks are also absurd on some models. They like happy and warm terms like Hbar, Sporter, Match, and other non-threatening terms and mark them .223 when most people want 5.56mm on there. Mark them all for what they should be, AR15 rifles and M4 carbines. They have the ability to make a product that is what everybody wants straight out of the box but never seem to get it just right. Heck, I just bought a Magpul version of their 6920 because of the M4 Carbine roll mark and I plan to strip the Magpul stuff straight off. They left the sporter marking on the version with the standard military style furniture. That was a real silly move they got it completely backward. you are throwing the term "everybody wants" around a lot, but thats not the case just cause some guys over in the tech and A2 forum want a A2 clone with a A2 barrel doesnt mean the bulk of agencied ( who colt sales too) and new 1st time buyers want them its a niche market adn its a waste of time to make A4s adn A2 clones for a small market when they can sell M4 types all day long I djont know why its so hard for some people to believe that the vast majority of buyers dont give a fuck for rifels with A2 barrels or even barrels 20 inches long period I aint saying it doesnt suck, but tis just the truth.. They barely make any HBAR rifle snow anyway. look at the website. the 6601 is gone and so are a few other. why? no one wants them. justr guys buying one to make into a clone every blue moon as for the roll marks, apparently you have not seen the M4 carbine adn M4 5.556 marked lowers? they are changing that the middy is still another time waster for them. they are not gonna make a gun adn then use some other MFGs idea baout how to do it or what gasport size etc. they likely dont feel its worth it or is as tested/dependable as they think it should be. word is they are working on a middy though anyway, there has been some big changes made lately an a lot of stuff coming out. I I feel that we will not see a A2 or A4 clone from them , ever, adn I dont blame them for not bothering with it. hell most of the guys cloning those guns dont care if its a colt anyway, I never said the 20" rifles would sell anywhere near the amount of M4 style rifles. The point was that a 20" government profile barrel with a FH and lug would sell better than the 20" plain Hbar. If you read above I also posted that I did buy one of the new M4 Carbine marked Magpul 6920 carbines. I bought it simply because the regular 6920 is still marked Sporter and several places told me the regular carbine is still coming in as a Sporter. I plan on swapping the Magpul furniture off of it for regular Colt stuff. As far as your bottom statement, most of those guys building the clones do care if it is a Colt. That's why they pay premuim prices for surplus Colt parts. It is seen in the EE here all the time. No matter what you say, if Colt made it like I am saying it would sell. A Colt factory AR15-A4 would make the BCM upper not as attractive simply because one says Colt on it. I agree. it would sell better then the HBAR no doubt about that but no way would as many people buy them as you think. if they would I am positive colt or at least SAW would have offered them. as for the guys buying colt parts. I have to disagree, look through the A4 pic thread and see how many of those guys have went through the trouble to buy colt parts. they dont really care. hell, most of them think colt is nothing special anyway I tihnk it would be an awesome way to find out if colt released someparts to SAW or on there webstore for A2/A4 stuff and see how it did think of it liek the kAC forum KAC said they would do a factory SBR if all the kAC fans wanted one, a shit ton of guys said "oh yea!! I will take two!!" they still have factory SBRs left over they are having trouble selling before they make the next version. a lot of guys say they want, but when it comes down to it, few will buy. and BTW I would love to have a factory A2 and A4 myself. 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Shawnmt6601, please take it easy on me. I know we disagree on what masses want. I have read a ton of your posts and understand your point of view. You say its a niche market...how do you know? Are you a marketing guy for Colt? Is there data to support that? I am on the grassroots level and hear what the shooters want and see what they settle for out of lack of options. Everything is a niche market technically. Have you even shot an A2, an SP1, a Python? Everything doesn't have to be practical.....sometimes its just fun for me to grab an M1 carbine and plink with 100 rounds and reflect on what WW2 was like and then watch Band of Brothers. My dad was in Vietnam, I like grabbing my department issued M-14 and shooting for fun. M1 carbines are not practical anymore, but I still have fun. Shooting is supposed to be fun and I would have a lot more fun shooting some of these models that are not made anymore. Why was the Springfield GI 1911 such a huge it....its simple and fun....it didn't have to have a lowered/flared ejection port, front slide serrations and such. The sights suck, but its fun and brings people back to the good ole days. I also find it challenging to shoot with those sights. Same goes for an A2 and if you ask police instructors, they say the A1 upper is the best upper/sight for Practical Policing ever made. I have been to the large Indianapolis gun shows at the fair grounds and people are constantly looking for the Pythons, the Series 70's, 9mm Colts, and such. They are looking for Smith Pre Locks and all that good ole stuff. That stuff sells, its does. Colt can be like everyone else and make the cookie cutter 16" carbine......AND they can also make the good ole stuff that will elevate them above everyone else. That good ole stuff IS what made Colt a legend. People want a COLT....they don't want a Nodak Spud repro and such, but they are settling due to no other options...... Business is about taking a risk. Colt took a risk to made the Reproduction WWI/WW2 1911's and look what they are going for on gunbroker......the same price as a USGI WWII Colt. It works! They were a smash hit! Take that one step further with a Vietnam repro....they already have the vendors/tooling Look at the 9mm A1 upper? They have what it takes and they are masters.....take a risk please. Put me down for a Vietnam Retro with a 1/7 twist pencil thin barrel, a Government A2 20", a A4 Government 20" like our troops have (semi), a Colt Python, I am not rich, I only make $58,000 a year, but I can make it work and I want to buy Colts! well lets see 1.they stopped making the SP1 and pytthon because they were not selling 2. I have a anaconda, two SP1s and two A2s adn 1 A4 3 I am not saying everything has to be be practical. i have plenty of dumb shit, what I am saying, is most buyers want what they see on TV, Movies and on the news, ( M4) I wokred at a gunstore long enough to know this 4 Same goes for an A2 and if you ask police instructors, they say the A1 upper is the best upper/sight for Practical Policing ever made. I never met any that said that, and those that do are pretty damn dumb then if they reall believe that, but its a differnt issue 5, people want pythons and series 70s etc now because they DOnt make them and they think they are worth a lot of money, they didnt make much money off them when they where in production, or we would still see them making them limited runs make money, simply because they are limited, people think they got a one of a kind, or soemthing special. adn retro is a little fad right now with the 100 year anv . hey, I would liek to see all this stuff as much as you guys. nothing would pleaseme more if colt ruled the gun world. but think about it. pythons take a lot of hand work. you think they still have the pros that handmade them back in the 80-90s still working thjere? I doubt it. thos ebabies are hard to make and I dont want brazilian made frames and short cuts on older models just to get back in the game to please nostalgia. but hey, its my opinion guys. Im not saying you are dumb or its silly. only time will tell. maybe if enough noise is made, they will make them |
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I have one of those it's called the MT6700-A4. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/mt6551/AR15/MT6700A4-0.jpg Although I swapped a M16-A4 barrel for the Hbar barrel and trimmed off 1 pound of weight in the process. Too bad Colt won't make one themselves....I keep asking though. Quoted:
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Yes it's a real deal Colt M16-A4 barrel with 1:7 twist, chrome lined and "F" marked FSB with bayonet lug.
I bought it from a guy who gets parts directly from Colt, the barrel was dated 03/11 so it's recent production. The thing is Colt could easily do the same thing to the present MT6700. My MT6700 is recent production (2010) so it's the milspec pin lower and had the M16 carrier and about as close to a A4 clone that I can get. The rifle balances really well which is why I have not put a rail to it yet. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: mebe they make em nice and AWB compliant like just for us new yorkers. Yeah, they still don't make an un-fucked one for the rest of us. AMEN! I sure hope Brent is still reading this thread. I can't complain though. I never thought I'd see a day we could buy a no-ban colt that didn't have restricted markings.  Much less one that says M4 CARBINE on the side!But seriously, it would not be that hard to do a run of M16A4 barrels once in awhile and keep the vocal minority here happy. I'd trade my Garand and maybe even my 6551 for a 20'' 1/7 twist government profile A4. ETA: I'd seriously consider the 6700 if it had a 1/7 twist barrel. I'd love to own a Colt flat top HBAR to build into a DMR type rifle for prone matches, but the 1/9 barrel would restrict me to 69 grain bullets. |
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A Colt A1 pencil thin barrel with a 1/7 twist chrome lined is selling on Gunbroker right now for $425 and it might go higher
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.aspx?User=996351 $425 for a barrel,,,,a BARREL!!! I can't believe this. The sad part is that I seriously considered buying it. Because its a genuine Colt and thats what I want. All my Colt's are 1/7 and this would be perfect for a Retro Build. I know Shawn most likely will disagree, but based on the retro parts selling on GB and other .com websites like Nodak Spud and others, there is a market for this and money to be made. You think NDS does all that work for retro lowers and uppers to break even? Nope, they are making a profit. They wouldn't do it if they weren't making sick money doing it. Just my two cents for the day. |
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A Colt A1 pencil thin barrel with a 1/7 twist chrome lined is selling on Gunbroker right now for $425 and it might go higher http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.aspx?User=996351 $425 for a barrel,,,,a BARREL!!! I can't believe this. The sad part is that I seriously considered buying it. Because its a genuine Colt and thats what I want. All my Colt's are 1/7 and this would be perfect for a Retro Build. I wouldn't dare. |
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please! I agree with an_hero the middy gas system is no big deal. Your preferred method of dealing with gas port erosion? How many gas ports erode before the barrel is shot out? For the record, my rifle is a middy. |
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Imagine if Colt sold a midlength barrel, heads would implode. I seriously hope they never get into making that garbage commercial gas system. Carbine or rifle only, please! I agree with an_hero the middy gas system is no big deal. Your preferred method of dealing with gas port erosion? How many gas ports erode before the barrel is shot out? For the record, my rifle is a middy. haha i felt his port erosion post was either a joke, or a post so dumb i didnt deserve a real answer .\\ glad you took fielded it though. |
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Business is about taking a risk. Colt took a risk to made the Reproduction WWI/WW2 1911's and look what they are going for on gunbroker......the same price as a USGI WWII Colt. It works! They were a smash hit! Take that one step further with a Vietnam repro....they already have the vendors/tooling Look at the 9mm A1 upper? They have what it takes and they are masters.....take a risk please. I'd love to buy a NIB AR-15 SP1. I'd also love to buy a 6550 to go with the 6520.... Local shop orders every damned Colt 1911 pistol they can get....because they sell every damned one they get (S70's, 1911 Repros, 1991's...)! Colt and the distributors cannot supply enough to them to keep up with the demand. It's pure luck that a LNIB used blued S70 repro came in, that is now mine. Now I just need a stainless one...no atrocious 100 years rollmark, tho. Won't match the blued one... About the WW2 repro, they didn't; even complete the first run; golden opportunity to sell 2k or so more guns to buyers that are now appreciative of them compared to when they released them back in 2001. Put me down for a Vietnam Retro with a 1/7 twist pencil thin barrel, a Government A2 20", a A4 Government 20" like our troops have (semi), a Colt Python, Preach it! |