[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Compact 4x Updates and Questions (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 7/16/2013 9:26:51 AM EDT
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Marsh, A few weeks ago I remember reading something along the lines of you getting a prototype in to sign off on. Did that ever come? Was it acceptable? Pics? Eta on production units? Price guesstimate? Will you be doing any pre-orders? And...another question in regards to the unit itself.... My original PA 4x compact scope seems pretty low on my flat top. So low in fact, that I see the front site post in my picture, albeit blurry...it's an obstruction. I'd like to keep the front site post if I can. If I add a QD mount underneath the 4x, will that fix the issue? Will the new 4x compact be about the same height high as the original 4x also possibly requiring a QD mount? Thanks!
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The 2.5X has been approved for production so we will see it first. The 4X reticle is still a little off. Both will have about the same height as you have now. I have been shooting the 2.5X and yes you see the front post but after 4-5 rounds of focusing on the target you tune it out. A higher mount would not give a proper cheek weld. The 2.5X has the CQ version of our ACSS reticle. IMHO it is the best compromise for CQ and distances out to 500 yards.
You can use any full size Acog QD base but it will not change the height. |
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The 2.5X has been approved for production so we will see it first. The 4X reticle is still a little off. Both will have about the same height as you have now. I have been shooting the 2.5X and yes you see the front post but after 4-5 rounds of focusing on the target you tune it out. A higher mount would not give a proper cheek weld. The 2.5X has the CQ version of our ACSS reticle. IMHO it is the best compromise for CQ and distances out to 500 yards. You can use any full size Acog QD base but it will not change the height. Pics? Please! 
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The 2.5X has been approved for production so we will see it first. The 4X reticle is still a little off. Both will have about the same height as you have now. I have been shooting the 2.5X and yes you see the front post but after 4-5 rounds of focusing on the target you tune it out. A higher mount would not give a proper cheek weld. The 2.5X has the CQ version of our ACSS reticle. IMHO it is the best compromise for CQ and distances out to 500 yards. You can use any full size Acog QD base but it will not change the height. Well you just sold me the 4x...which I was going to buy anyway, AND the 2.5x 
Guess I will just get a Troy folding front site and remove the front fixed post. I will echo the others, pics pics!! |
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do you have any eta idea on the 2.5X marsh? Might be better than a red dot for my SBR Also pics of the prototype? I cant decide between this and the multi-reticle red dot. I may get the multi reticle for my MP5 anyway when it comes back in stock. We will have a ETA next week. Latest prototype is still in CA being tested. Will see if I can get him to send a pic |
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Here is a early rendering of the shape. Will try and get actual photos next week http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/rendering-25xwithmockupbase2_zps8998a72a.jpg Looks better than I even expected! Plenty of room for BUIS too! |
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Here is a early rendering of the shape. Will try and get actual photos next week http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/rendering-25xwithmockupbase2_zps8998a72a.jpg Looks better than I even expected! Plenty of room for BUIS too! Damn it you keep making it harder and harder for us poor folk to pick which optic we want! I was planning on the new M4 red dot, now I have to choose between that, a 1-4x, or a fixed 2.5 and fixed 4x? You're horrible. and going to make me even more poor. |
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Damn it you keep making it harder and harder for us poor folk to pick which optic we want! I was planning on the new M4 red dot, now I have to choose between that, a 1-4x, or a fixed 2.5 and fixed 4x? You're horrible. and going to make me even more poor. Quoted:
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Here is a early rendering of the shape. Will try and get actual photos next week http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/rendering-25xwithmockupbase2_zps8998a72a.jpg Looks better than I even expected! Plenty of room for BUIS too! Damn it you keep making it harder and harder for us poor folk to pick which optic we want! I was planning on the new M4 red dot, now I have to choose between that, a 1-4x, or a fixed 2.5 and fixed 4x? You're horrible. and going to make me even more poor. Pretty horrible isn't he? I mean next he might actually show us a picture looking down the reticle! imagine the insanity then!
looks great marsh! can't wait!! |
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Its not ugly. Too bad it doesnt have a slanted front like an acog. But if you put butler creek flup caps on it it would probably shade it a bit.
I like this so far. Might be what I get for my SBR AR. Too bad the reticle wont come in green though. Ive always liked green much better than red. |
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Damn it you keep making it harder and harder for us poor folk to pick which optic we want! I was planning on the new M4 red dot, now I have to choose between that, a 1-4x, or a fixed 2.5 and fixed 4x? You're horrible. and going to make me even more poor. Quoted:
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Here is a early rendering of the shape. Will try and get actual photos next week http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/rendering-25xwithmockupbase2_zps8998a72a.jpg Looks better than I even expected! Plenty of room for BUIS too! Damn it you keep making it harder and harder for us poor folk to pick which optic we want! I was planning on the new M4 red dot, now I have to choose between that, a 1-4x, or a fixed 2.5 and fixed 4x? You're horrible. and going to make me even more poor. Hell yeah. I don't know if I want the 2.5, 4 or 1-6. |
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It is on the site with a picture and image of the reticle
https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-2-5X-Compact-Scope-PAC2-5X-p/pac2.5x.htm |
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looks good, have any idea what the battery life will be? BTW, you had it on the website earlier with a $299 price and a 1/3 MOA clicks. That wouldn't be a hint on the 4x version would it? No. Our buyer just jumped the gun before I had a chance to proof read it. |
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Question about the reticle for the compact 4X.... Is it going to be the CQB reticle like the 2.5X or more like the reticle on the 1-6X?
I am looking to set up my AR for 3 gun, and the 1-6X seems to be the popular choice, but it seems that the 4X with CQB reticle might actually be more useful for the majority of situations. Either way I would also have backup sights at a 45 degree angle. Any thoughts? |
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Question about the reticle for the compact 4X.... Is it going to be the CQB reticle like the 2.5X or more like the reticle on the 1-6X? I am looking to set up my AR for 3 gun, and the 1-6X seems to be the popular choice, but it seems that the 4X with CQB reticle might actually be more useful for the majority of situations. Either way I would also have backup sights at a 45 degree angle. Any thoughts? It will be very similar to the 1-6X |
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It is on the site with a picture and image of the reticle https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-2-5X-Compact-Scope-PAC2-5X-p/pac2.5x.htm will the 4x compact be similarly priced? |
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It is on the site with a picture and image of the reticle https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-2-5X-Compact-Scope-PAC2-5X-p/pac2.5x.htm will the 4x compact be similarly priced? A bit more. Not firm yet. |
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What, other than the reticle, has been improved/changed since the last 4x compact scope? I noticed the mounting brackets for secondary devices are in a couple different spots....but I am more curious about the clarity, glass, etc. The last 4X was several years ago. The most recent model was 3X. This one is better in every respect. Light transmission, clarity and far superior reticle |
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The last 4X was several years ago. The most recent model was 3X. This one is better in every respect. Light transmission, clarity and far superior reticle Quoted:
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What, other than the reticle, has been improved/changed since the last 4x compact scope? I noticed the mounting brackets for secondary devices are in a couple different spots....but I am more curious about the clarity, glass, etc. The last 4X was several years ago. The most recent model was 3X. This one is better in every respect. Light transmission, clarity and far superior reticle old habits die hard!! i am still so pleased with my original 4x compact that i can't imagine it getting much better. guess i'll just have to order one to compare with right? 
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