[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ETA on 4X Compact (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/1/2010 5:56:47 AM EDT
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Will this have the same reticule pattern as the last one? Yes. Hmmm, this brings up a question I've had for a while: Is there a possibility that we could get some w/ a different reticule pattern? Thanks much. At some point yes but it took 5 months to get the current version. I am making a trip to the factory soon to work on new products and delivery issues. |
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Marsh1, In the new product configuration for the 4X, please consider green and red chevron reticles! On the other hand, I am dying to order a couple of 4x with the T-reticle! Keep up the excellent and innovative work.  Agreed! A good, bright green that doesn't get washed out by sunlight is my vote. ~~~~~ And, thanks for the response/update Marsh1. |
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I can't seem to find any info on weather/water proofing/resistance. Can you provide some input? How robust are they? They are waterproof for normal drop in a puddle shoot in the rain use. Not 150 feet Aimpoint waterproof. The are purged for fog resistance. We tested on .308s and I think we have only had one or two failures in the field. Thanks Marshall |
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The mailman just delivered my 4x and I had a few minutes to mount it and check it out. I won't get to shoot with it until Sunday probably. So far It feels very solid and secure and mounted just in front of my folded down MBUS. The 11 brightness settings provide plenty of light for day and night use. At first it seemed almost like the reticle was crooked in mine, but I'm pretty sure it was just my imagination. The only problem I see with it is that the front sight doesn't disappear nearly as much as I read it would. I can still use it but the front sight is a pretty big eyesore. I will probably look into getting some kind of riser to raise it a little.
Bad cellphone picture: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2776/pa4x.jpg |
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The reticle might look canted until you focus it. Adjust the focus ring on the back with the optic not mounted. Point it up at the ceiling and adjust until the reticle is nice and sharp.
We open and QC each one but if you have any issues give us a call. Thanks Marshall 713-436-5121 |
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I just ordered a 4x. Can I slide a Troy rear flip up underneath the rear of the 4x as a BUIS? It won't fit under it but will mount just in front of your Troy and have enough eye relief for NTCH. Is the eye relief adjustable at all? For a comfortable cheek weld and arm position, I had to mount my 4X at the very end of the upper. No possible way to put a BUIS on there. How are you guys getting yours to sit so far forward on the rifle? |
| USPS dropped mine of today. I sat in my car playing with it before I ran some errands and was really impressed with the clarity of the optic. Once I got home I mounted it just ahead of my mbus. The rear eye piece rests just above the mbus release lever (for lack of a better term). The front sight is visible (blurry) but this is not an issue for me. I am 110% satisfied with this product and would recommend it to anyone wanting a budget "combat style" optic. This is my first purchase with Primary arms and it wont be my last. |
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I just ordered a 4x. Can I slide a Troy rear flip up underneath the rear of the 4x as a BUIS? It won't fit under it but will mount just in front of your Troy and have enough eye relief for NTCH. Is the eye relief adjustable at all? For a comfortable cheek weld and arm position, I had to mount my 4X at the very end of the upper. No possible way to put a BUIS on there. How are you guys getting yours to sit so far forward on the rifle? |
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I just ordered a 4x. Can I slide a Troy rear flip up underneath the rear of the 4x as a BUIS? It won't fit under it but will mount just in front of your Troy and have enough eye relief for NTCH. Is the eye relief adjustable at all? For a comfortable cheek weld and arm position, I had to mount my 4X at the very end of the upper. No possible way to put a BUIS on there. How are you guys getting yours to sit so far forward on the rifle? The eye relief is not adjustable on any scope that I know of. If you shoot (true nose to the charging handle) it works. That said since this is a magnifier optic that is not on a quick disconnect mount loose the rear if you want to be farther back. |
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I received my 2 scopes yesterday after ordering them earlier this week. Kudos to PA for their usual prompt fulfillment. The built quality is impressive and consistent in both scopes. I mounted them yesterday - one on my Spike's ST22 and the other on my wife's M&P 15-22. Eye relief is as advertised and is quite generous. They do indeed need to be mounted towards the rear of the rail for a full field-of-view, however, as Marshall mentioned, a nose-to-the-charging handle position obviously allows for a more forward installation of the optic. Quite frankly, 3.5 inches of eye relief on a 4x magnified optic is about as good as it gets.
Both optics render a sharp focused image, however light transmission is somewhat disappointing. Although the image produced through the scopes is noticeably darker, it is still very acceptable. Suffice it to say, the overall image quality, build quality, and features exceed what one would expect out of a $109 optic. This is a quality product at a great price from a reputable company. Many thanks to PA. |
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I ordered a 4x scope on Tuesday 3/9/2010 and received it in the mail today 3/13/2010 (USPS sent it to the wrong office otherwise it would have been here on 3/12/2010). The scope is pretty much perfect, but I'm having an issue with the mount. There is some kind of seal in between the base of the scope and the mount that is making the scope be rotated off center. When mounted to my rifle is forces the reticule to appear rotated counter-clockwise quite a bit. Is it possible to remove this sealant/glue to get the scope to sit flush in the mount base? |
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I got three today. A micro dot, 1x4 and the 4x. I mounted the 4x and have the same situation as the above poster. If it was just a little, it would not be that bad. I too would like to know if the base and scope might be removed to square the two together.
Just read this from Marsh. I will give this a shot. "The reticle might look canted until you focus it. Adjust the focus ring on the back with the optic not mounted. Point it up at the ceiling and adjust until the reticle is nice and sharp. We open and QC each one but if you have any issues give us a call. " |
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I tried the focusing ring and it's definitely not that. The mount base is visibly canted. I'll give Marsh a call because I know PA has good customer service and will make it right. My 4X reticle is canted slightly to the left as well, even after adjusting the focus ring. This is probably because of an adhesive between the mount and the base, which may tip the sight 2 or 3 degrees to the left. But Primary Arms is cherry picking another one for me, shipping it at Primary Arm's expense, and is paying for me to ship the other one back, so I will be good to go. The 4X glass is clear, the unit is built like a tank, and the illuminated reticle is plenty bright even in the day. . Thanks for the great service, Primary Arms!
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I hate to add to the complaints. PA has been great to me in the past and I own several PA sights, but the 4X I got today also has some cant to it. It's strange though because unlike some of the other posters here I've noticed that the degree of the cant seems to vary a little bit as I move the sight around. I'm only noticing that the reticle itself is canted, not the actual sight body on the base like some other people have said. This is troublesome to me because it indicates that there may be something loose inside the sight that is allowing the reticle to move around. That's obviously a very bad sign for the sight's ability to retain zero.
I also tried adjusting the focus and I didn't see any change. Has anyone got any other ideas for fixing this? |
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I hate to add to the complaints. PA has been great to me in the past and I own several PA sights, but the 4X I got today also has some cant to it. It's strange though because unlike some of the other posters here I've noticed that the degree of the cant seems to vary a little bit as I move the sight around. I'm only noticing that the reticle itself is canted, not the actual sight body on the base like some other people have said. This is troublesome to me because it indicates that there may be something loose inside the sight that is allowing the reticle to move around. That's obviously a very bad sign for the sight's ability to retain zero. I also tried adjusting the focus and I didn't see any change. Has anyone got any other ideas for fixing this? We are very low so we cut off all sales until we can check each one. If you have any issues with yours email Nick or Scott at [email protected] and they will make it right. On a side note I am leaving for a visit to the factory next Monday. This will be the first topic of discussion.. Thanks Marshall |
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I hate to add to the complaints. PA has been great to me in the past and I own several PA sights, but the 4X I got today also has some cant to it. It's strange though because unlike some of the other posters here I've noticed that the degree of the cant seems to vary a little bit as I move the sight around. I'm only noticing that the reticle itself is canted, not the actual sight body on the base like some other people have said. This is troublesome to me because it indicates that there may be something loose inside the sight that is allowing the reticle to move around. That's obviously a very bad sign for the sight's ability to retain zero. I also tried adjusting the focus and I didn't see any change. Has anyone got any other ideas for fixing this? We are very low so we cut off all sales until we can check each one. If you have any issues with yours email Nick or Scott at [email protected] and they will make it right. On a side note I am leaving for a visit to the factory next Monday. This will be the first topic of discussion.. Thanks Marshall I have not been able to shoot mine yet, but I think my reticle may be canted as well. Although, I don't think its the whole reticle. I spent a lot of time messing with it, and I think that the top (100 yd) bar is not at an exact 90 degree angle to the vertical. It's maybe 89.8 degrees. Its so small of a cant, that I really don't even care. The glass is very clear, the illumination fantastic, and the thing just feels VERY solid. IMO, it's much more than I expected for the money. If you do discover an issue with the run, let me know. Until then, I'm pretty happy. (barring any issued getting it sighted in!!!) |
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We are very low so we cut off all sales until we can check each one. If you have any issues with yours email Nick or Scott at [email protected] and they will make it right. On a side note I am leaving for a visit to the factory next Monday. This will be the first topic of discussion.. Thanks Marshall Marshall, I have absolute confidence that you guys will make any problems right. I have a few of your sights and I am extremely happy with my purchases and the service from PA (I really love the micros). Another thing I thought of is that I have very little experience using magnified optics. It's possible that I'm overlooking something that should be obvious. I'll be shooting with the sight this weekend and I'll have a few people take a look and provide opinions. I'll send an email if I still think there's a problem I can't live with. |