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4/25/2011 4:53:48 PM EDT
I had a sloppy fit between the Del-Ton upper and my Double Star lower. Fixed it with a #28 O-ring (5/8x1/2x1/16) on the front lug. Solidified it, now rock solid with no wiggle whatsoever.
4/26/2011 10:35:45 AM EDT
[#1]
That slop has absolutely zero effect on function but I can see if it was excessive it may get annoying.

Nice work.
4/26/2011 11:00:41 AM EDT
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That slop has absolutely zero effect on function but I can see if it was excessive it may get annoying.

Nice work.


Actually, I had a notable shift in point of impact at 50+ yards. About 8 inches, to be specific.
4/26/2011 11:59:35 AM EDT
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That slop has absolutely zero effect on function but I can see if it was excessive it may get annoying.



Nice work.




Actually, I had a notable shift in point of impact at 50+ yards. About 8 inches, to be specific.




thats cuz you flinched
4/26/2011 4:21:31 PM EDT
[#4]
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That slop has absolutely zero effect on function but I can see if it was excessive it may get annoying.

Nice work.


Actually, I had a notable shift in point of impact at 50+ yards. About 8 inches, to be specific.


thats cuz you flinched


Three different shooters, same issue. Between a mag well grip and a far forward grip, from all three of us, there was an 8 inch vertical shift in point of impact at about 65 yards on average. This was because Double Star is not a good match for Del-Ton.
4/26/2011 4:36:32 PM EDT
[#5]
how much slop are you talkin?



i have two deltons, both on a Kaiser Defense lower.  one is real tight on the front pivot and the other isnt. same thing if i swap lowers, so its not the lowers.



the slop doesnt affect my shooting. I am talking less than a peice of copy paper.  you had room to put in a O ring right?
4/26/2011 4:45:32 PM EDT
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how much slop are you talkin?

i have two deltons, both on a Kaiser Defense lower.  one is real tight on the front pivot and the other isnt. same thing if i swap lowers, so its not the lowers.

the slop doesnt affect my shooting. I am talking less than a peice of copy paper.  you had room to put in a O ring right?


IT squished it real good in the front, but it eliminated ALL the slop. I had enough that you could feel it when you put pressure on the muzzle end, and you could see light between the receivers at the rear. I did pay about $90 for my lower though, so $ = Quality, I guess.
4/26/2011 5:47:56 PM EDT
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IT squished it real good in the front, but it eliminated ALL the slop. I had enough that you could feel it when you put pressure on the muzzle end, and you could see light between the receivers at the rear. I did pay about $90 for my lower though, so $ = Quality, I guess.




I've put Del Ton kits on 3 Aero precision Lowers, a Surplus Ammo and Arms lower and a Spikes lower. No slop on any of them. Didn't pay over $70 for any and the finish is great too.
4/27/2011 6:39:21 AM EDT
[#8]
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IT squished it real good in the front, but it eliminated ALL the slop. I had enough that you could feel it when you put pressure on the muzzle end, and you could see light between the receivers at the rear. I did pay about $90 for my lower though, so $ = Quality, I guess.


I've put Del Ton kits on 3 Aero precision Lowers, a Surplus Ammo and Arms lower and a Spikes lower. No slop on any of them. Didn't pay over $70 for any and the finish is great too.


Well I guess Double Star has their own spec then. I had enough that it was rotating along the bore axis, in addition to about a degree and a half of rotation along the front pivot pin, which translated to about 8 inches or so down range. So if anyone else has that problem, #28 O-rings are $0.79 at Ace Hardware. I found it to be more effective than an accuwedge.
4/29/2011 1:35:24 PM EDT
[#9]
get a bag of 100. O-rings don't last long.
5/3/2011 9:42:46 PM EDT
[#10]
8 inch shift at 65yds doesn't sound like receiver wobble to me. If it were at 400 yards, I'd probably believe it, but 65yds seems damn near impossible.