Posted: 10/30/2006 4:18:24 PM EDT
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In a previous post, we were told RRA does not cover any issues with useing steel cased ammo. Yet many LE agencies use Hornaday steel cased ammo for practice and training, apparantly with no issues. Does the Hornaday ammo posess some magic not available to say Wolf, or is the RRA not widely used? Chief |
I am not going to begin to answer for RRA but I have not seen them say that they would not cover a problem after steel case ammo is used. I have seen it "recommended" that steel, polymer, reloads, etc are not used. From what I have seen, if the problem is with the gun, it will be taken care of. It is just more likely that a problem will occur with the non standard type ammo that is not the fault of the rifle. If you use new factory made brass ammo, any problem occurring is likely going to be the fault of the rifle and on RRA to fix. If you use anything else, there is at least a good chance it is the ammo that caused the problem and not an issue with the rifle. Now Steve can correct me. |
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sheeeesssssssssshhhh..... What is so difficult to understand? Using steel cased ammo in a gun that is not approved for it by the manufacturer amounts to "proceed at your own risk". If you want to run cheap ammo.... step up and assume some risk. Why is it difficult to understand that a manufacturer who advises against a stated use may not help you out if a problem occurs because their recomendation was ignored and the prohibited activity actually caused the problem? That said, why would someone be so negatively biased to think that a manufacturer would use this as an excuse not to honor a real warranty situation? Especially if the situation is totally unrelated. Wouldn't it be easier to assume a company will do the right thing should you really encounter a valid warranty situation? best regards, mike edit for spelling |
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We have stated repeatedly our advice NOT to use steel. polymer,bimetalic, and aluminum cased ammo. It is our ADVICE...nothing more or less. We're telling you that using same may/will cause you/your rifle problems. It doesn't void the warranty simply by using it. That said, our warranty is for the failure due to factory labor or materials. For an ammo caused failure, we proceed on a case by case basis. We do everything we can to try to help our customers. But when/if we find blatant abuse or misuse, or a clear ammo (versus rifle) failure, we'll call it such. Lacquer build up to the point a round won't chamber? Not warranty. Lacquer vaporized when fired and then solidified in the gas tube and carrier key, and gas rings? Steel case seperated or galled? Extractor damaged? Aluminum case torn apart (maybe just the rim, maybe seperated case)? Polymer case where the back (brass) portion has torn off but the plastic is still in the chamber? How do any of those fall under the rifle's warranty? The first time I had a call from a department about using the zinc-plated steel cased ammo was about two weeks ago, and I gave the same admonishment as I would to anyone else. I hadn't even heard of it previously, and when I called around to various agencies and local departments, most of the training/range officers hadn't either, and those who had heard of it had opted not to use it and were still using brass cased range ammo. Steve/RRA |