[ARCHIVED THREAD] - LAR-47 (Page 1 of 7)
Posted: 8/11/2012 4:26:25 AM EDT
| What is the staus on this rifle. I would love to have one. I have not seen any for sale or any reviews online. |
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Releasing shortly. We've had a few annoying delays on a couple of LAR-47-specific parts, which are in turn delaying the entire project.
Several reviews already published, with a few more due shortly. Best review so far was Eric Poole's article in the G&A Book of the AR-15issue that (according to th ecover) shoul dstil be available at your "newstand" until August 20 (Blue cover with the LAR-47 "Delta" on it). Steve/RRA |
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I would get any orders in sooner than later, and then patiently wait. We already have a significant back log of orders, but nothing that is unmanageble at this point. Once the LAR-47 starts shipping, I imagine that orders will bust wide open and we'll be back-ordered far longer than we already are.
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I would get any orders in sooner than later, and then patiently wait. We already have a significant back log of orders, but nothing that is unmanageble at this point. Once the LAR-47 starts shipping, I imagine that orders will bust wide open and we'll be back-ordered far longer than we already are. Steve/RRA Patiently waiting 8 months here 
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+1 for receiver / bolt sets... No worries, RRA, we will keep waiting. Better to wait and have it work perfectly!
With that said, I think that the beauty of this system will be in the pistol / sbr genre. 7.62x39 is a poor man's /opportunist's 300 blk. Very little loss with a shorter barrel, + a thirty cal round that is effective in common battle / hunting ranges. A 7" BBL + suppressor with subsonics would be sick! To be honest, the rifle only excites me because it means a pistol might be possible! Maybe I can convince RRA to sell me a rifle that has never been assembled into a rifle........ 
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Pistols aren't out of the question...they just aren't going to be the first LAR-47s offered.
A lot will hinge on demand for the platform in general and once going, for requests for pistols. Since 7.62x39 has already been around in pistol form (which screwed up the supply of really inexpensive ammo years ago), there's no strategic reason not to do one eventually. Steve/RRA |
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Steve,
Thank you for your timely and thoughtful replies. My only real concerns are about the wear and tear on the internals by steel-cased 7.62x39mm ammo. As you can probably predict like most of the rest of us that a huge percentage of the ammo going through these carbines is going to be the more economical steel-cased imports. The other concern is how this relatively dirty-shooting ammo will affect the reliability of this direct gas impingement carbine. Was a piston action considered (or will be)? Nevertheless, looking forward to buying mine 
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And we've made chromed carrier groups and chrome-lined barrels (chamber and bore) standard as well.
So far we haven't experienced excessive carboning or grunge build-up with any of the 7.62x39 ammo we've been testing with, but we have also cleaned the rifles immediately after every use. As with any extremely questionable ammo, I would just assume that it is corrosive (regardless of what it said on the pre-printed box that was shipped to whatever ammo plant was making the ammo or whatever warehouse was being used to repackage existing ammo) and clean appropriately. We considered a piston system, but stayed with DGI as the better of the two methods in an AR platform. Steve/RRA |
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Steve, Thank you for your timely and thoughtful replies. My only real concerns are about the wear and tear on the internals by steel-cased 7.62x39mm ammo. As you can probably predict like most of the rest of us that a huge percentage of the ammo going through these carbines is going to be the more economical steel-cased imports. The other concern is how this relatively dirty-shooting ammo will affect the reliability of this direct gas impingement carbine. Was a piston action considered (or will be)? Nevertheless, looking forward to buying mine
Again, thank you. I would not worry myself with steel case ammo . the case is no where near as hard as the steel in the barrel . the issue is the steel case doesnt expand as much as a brass case and it lets crude blow back in the chamber . If you blow through a couple hundred rounds of steel case and then switch to brass you may or may not experience a stuck case . its no big deal , just clean your rifle when your done for the day and all will be well. I think steve hit on a good point , just assume the ammo is corrosie and clean accordingly and all will be well . just an fyi I have had good luck with cabelas herter brand in 5.56 and 7.62 x51 so I would expect the 7.62 x 39 to be just as good . I wait for the door buster sales then load up. |
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I would get any orders in sooner than later, and then patiently wait. We already have a significant back log of orders, but nothing that is unmanageble at this point. Once the LAR-47 starts shipping, I imagine that orders will bust wide open and we'll be back-ordered far longer than we already are. Steve/RRA Patiently waiting 8 months here I waited... But then I found the PTR32 PDW. Couldn't pass it up. I'll probably go with the Sig556R for a long gun variant. Sucks too. I was really pumped, but you know there will be 1 st run issues (happens in every system, firearm or not) and you're an entire gen behind Sig as they ave already addressed their design issues. One question I've wanted to ask for a while... Is this an in house design or did you guys get a license/buy the KAC design? Thanks. |
| Any word on when you guys think these will start production? I have quite a few on order for my shop and all I get are frustrated sales folks when I call for updates. I am not complaining about the staff, I am sure they are taking a huge amount of calls right now, but some of my customers are getting a little worried that you guys still don't even show the guns being built. Thanks for any info you might have for me. |
Gonna spend MORE $ and have more to explain to the spousal-unit.
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I'm in the same boat myself, but slightly differently. I hit AR -overload, and hadn't really been all that interested until I got involved in the early stages of the LAR-47 project. I'm really not an AK kinda guy (always thought that the stamped receivers were kinda "eh" and the regular grips were too small and stocks too short...and by the time you almost had what you wanted, you could have another AR. Voila...now I can cover both "needs"...and all my "extra" accessories will find their way onto an LAR-47 while I find the right build-out for me (I'm thinking 4-pos aluminum CAR stock, Hogue grip, and a NM free-float sleeve -long story, don't ask-inside gutted R4 handguards...and since the barrel will be floated, throw an ACOG on top and see what it can do).
That said, by the time I have mine, I might reconsider and change everything. Steve/RRA |
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I AM LOOKING TO GET A 7.62X39 RIFLE A.S.A.H.P., LIKE BEFORE OUR "DISASTER IN CHIEF" DOES SOMETHING WE WILL ALL REGRET. IT HAS FINALIZED DOWN TO A CHOICE BETWEEN THE RR LAR-47 AND THE SIG SAUER 556R. I ALREADY OWN 3 - 4 ROCK RIVERS IN VARIOUS CALIBERS. I LOVE THE AR15 STYLE PLATFORM. IT IS EASY FOR MY 67 YEAR OLD SHOULDERS TO FIRE, EVEN IN MY 458 SOCOM!
I WOULD LIKE TO CUT TO THE CHASE. I HAVE 1500$ IN HAND. IT BOILS DOWN TO HOW SOON THE RR WILL BE RELEASED. I AM ALL SET UP FOR RELOADING, SO I ONLY NEED THE RIFLE. IS IT GETTING CLOSE? I DO NOT WANT TO GO FOR THE SIG AND THEN KICK MYSELF FOR IT. I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH RR'S CUSTOMER SERVICE & GOT "NOT IN PRODUCTION, DON'T KNOW WHEN". AS I SAID, I WANT THE RR & DON'T WANT TO GET THE SIG ONLY TO REGRET IT. HELP...?? THANKS, E.K.McWILLIAMS |
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I AM LOOKING TO GET A 7.62X39 RIFLE A.S.A.H.P., LIKE BEFORE OUR "DISASTER IN CHIEF" DOES SOMETHING WE WILL ALL REGRET. IT HAS FINALIZED DOWN TO A CHOICE BETWEEN THE RR LAR-47 AND THE SIG SAUER 556R. I ALREADY OWN 3 - 4 ROCK RIVERS IN VARIOUS CALIBERS. I LOVE THE AR15 STYLE PLATFORM. IT IS EASY FOR MY 67 YEAR OLD SHOULDERS TO FIRE, EVEN IN MY 458 SOCOM! I WOULD LIKE TO CUT TO THE CHASE. I HAVE 1500$ IN HAND. IT BOILS DOWN TO HOW SOON THE RR WILL BE RELEASED. I AM ALL SET UP FOR RELOADING, SO I ONLY NEED THE RIFLE. IS IT GETTING CLOSE? I DO NOT WANT TO GO FOR THE SIG AND THEN KICK MYSELF FOR IT. I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH RR'S CUSTOMER SERVICE & GOT "NOT IN PRODUCTION, DON'T KNOW WHEN". AS I SAID, I WANT THE RR & DON'T WANT TO GET THE SIG ONLY TO REGRET IT. HELP...?? THANKS, E.K.McWILLIAMS That's all good, but why are you yelling? |
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I don't know. Honestly.
I would love to be cranking them out right now, but machine time is at a premium andf we can't get them intothe production queue right now. When we do get them scheduled in, we'll run a huge number before we retool back to "normal" production components. Steve/RRA |
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Hey guys, just wanted to give everyone an update on this rifle. I just flipped the pages on my GunDigest daily callendar and found out that the page for February 11th features the LAR-47 it reads:
The LAR-47 from Rock River Arms, in 7.62x39mm Russian, has a two-stage AR trigger group, 16-inch barrel, A2 flash suppressor, ambi- mag release and RRA's six-position tactical CAR stock--but it takes AK magazines! It also shows a picture of the LAR-47 Delta Carbine. I can only assume that this is RRA way of letting me know that the gun is right around the corner! Good news for all. This is of course intended to be all in good fun and not intended as an outlet for any repressed anger towards RRA because I really want my gun. |
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Hey guys, just wanted to give everyone an update on this rifle. I just flipped the pages on my GunDigest daily callendar and found out that the page for February 11th features the LAR-47 it reads: The LAR-47 from Rock River Arms, in 7.62x39mm Russian, has a two-stage AR trigger group, 16-inch barrel, A2 flash suppressor, ambi- mag release and RRA's six-position tactical CAR stock--but it takes AK magazines! It also shows a picture of the LAR-47 Delta Carbine. I can only assume that this is RRA way of letting me know that the gun is right around the corner! Good news for all. This is of course intended to be all in good fun and not intended as an outlet for any repressed anger towards RRA because I really want my gun. We've had multiple LAR-47s out to writers, and I offered to take one of those "dirty, used, rifles" for my order. Needless to say, I don't have an LAR-47 yet either. Steve/RRA |
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Any idea of an ETA yet? Ive been waiting for these to come out for to long. You have enough reviews and ads in magazines now we need the real thing! The industry is slammed just trying to produce AR's to keep up with demand. Not to mention the likelihood that manufacturers are hesitant to ramp up production to the maximum with the potential for a ban on their products on the horizon. I'm not Rock River, but I can only assume the LAR-47 is on the back burner for the foreseeable future while the company focuses on producing it's current line of product. Besides that, magazine ads and pictures of the prototypes have been in the gun rags for nearly 6 months now. |
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Any idea of an ETA yet? Ive been waiting for these to come out for to long. You have enough reviews and ads in magazines now we need the real thing! The industry is slammed just trying to produce AR's to keep up with demand. Not to mention the likelihood that manufacturers are hesitant to ramp up production to the maximum with the potential for a ban on their products on the horizon. I'm not Rock River, but I can only assume the LAR-47 is on the back burner for the foreseeable future while the company focuses on producing it's current line of product. Besides that, magazine ads and pictures of the prototypes have been in the gun rags for nearly 6 months now. You have a pretty good feel for things, although we are moving forward with the LAR-47, it just i staking longer to get components running as all of our own machine centers and those of our vendors are pretty much running non-stop on other vitally important components. |
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You have a pretty good feel for things, although we are moving forward with the LAR-47, it just i staking longer to get components running as all of our own machine centers and those of our vendors are pretty much running non-stop on other vitally important components. I only wish NY didn't go full retard when it did. At this point the LAR-47 is out of reach for me, being a NY resident. Still, I hope the rifle is a success and still available for the day I can escape from NY and buy one! |