Posted: 10/29/2008 5:32:22 PM EDT
any reason why Magpul has never come out with one? To me it would seem that such an amazing company as Magpul would have one in their lineup- I mean seriously, the only thing that would look absolutely AWESOME with my MIAD grip, and CTR would be a Magpul VFG 
- just wondering if you guys have any insights that I don't have...and also...what about those darn Magpul handguards?.... 
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Would you rather that we dedicate our time and resources to put another VFG on the market or would you rather see other cool new products like a plasma-pulse-cannon QD launcher, etc... Got a lot of stuff baking in the oven that even I don't know about... and even if I did know, my OPSEC is GTG. Magpul makes (or is making) alot of other accessories for the AR so why not a VFG also. The reason I have heard thus far is that other companys have "nailed it so why bother" or "the market is flooded with VFG's aleady so why bother". Other companys have "nailed" magazines, stocks, rail covers, grips, front & rear BUIS, handguards, etc. all of which Magpul manufactures also. It's one thing when consumers say the market is flooded and one company nailed the design. It's another thing when Magpul themselves have come out and stated that Larue has nailed the design and the market is flooded already. They feel there is no need to produce one. I didn't see where Magpul says this. Again, for example Troy "nailed" the BUIS market yet Magpul has BUIS's in the works so I don't see your logic. I'm not trying to start an argument here, I would just like to see matching Magpul VFG's that's all. |
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+1 Larue nailed it so why bother.. I dont have $100 to spend on a VFG, hell i dont even have $50 to spend on food!!! Im sure the magpul product would better fit many peoples budgets. I have no doubt that the LaRue VFG is awesome, but someone needs to think of the poor college kids
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What I want to know is, how come nobody's come up with a semi-VFG? One that's a 45* angle that attaches to the rail.
It would be better than holding the magwell, and would allow both support and pulling the rifle into your shoulder better...If that makes no sense I'll try to sketch something up quickly later. 
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What I want to know is, how come nobody's come up with a semi-VFG? One that's a 45* angle that attaches to the rail. It would be better than holding the magwell, and would allow both support and pulling the rifle into your shoulder better...If that makes no sense I'll try to sketch something up quickly later. A.R.M.S. make / made one that had a grip that looked very similar to the standard A2 grip. I had one and didn't like it at all. |
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What I want to know is, how come nobody's come up with a semi-VFG? One that's a 45* angle that attaches to the rail. It would be better than holding the magwell, and would allow both support and pulling the rifle into your shoulder better...If that makes no sense I'll try to sketch something up quickly later. Because a vertical grip is far more ergonomic than one on an angle. Your wrists would be bent way too much with a 45 deg. angled grip. |
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What I want to know is, how come nobody's come up with a semi-VFG? One that's a 45* angle that attaches to the rail. It would be better than holding the magwell, and would allow both support and pulling the rifle into your shoulder better...If that makes no sense I'll try to sketch something up quickly later. Because a vertical grip is far more ergonomic than one on an angle. Your wrists would be bent way too much with a 45 deg. angled grip. Moreso than holding the rail/handguards  That's not possible.
I've seen major trainers advocate holding the handguard (I'll call that 0*), and of course there are those who advocate using either a VFG or the magwell hold. Call that 90*. I was just wondering if a 45* (split the difference) grip would work... *shrug*. |
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Would you rather that we dedicate our time and resources to put another VFG on the market or would you rather see other cool new products like a plasma-pulse-cannon QD launcher, etc... Got a lot of stuff baking in the oven that even I don't know about... and even if I did know, my OPSEC is GTG. Magpul makes (or is making) alot of other accessories for the AR so why not a VFG also. The reason I have heard thus far is that other companys have "nailed it so why bother" or "the market is flooded with VFG's aleady so why bother". Other companys have "nailed" magazines, stocks, rail covers, grips, front & rear BUIS, handguards, etc. all of which Magpul manufactures also. |
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Would you rather that we dedicate our time and resources to put another VFG on the market or would you rather see other cool new products like a plasma-pulse-cannon QD launcher, etc... Got a lot of stuff baking in the oven that even I don't know about... and even if I did know, my OPSEC is GTG. Magpul makes (or is making) alot of other accessories for the AR so why not a VFG also. The reason I have heard thus far is that other companys have "nailed it so why bother" or "the market is flooded with VFG's aleady so why bother". Other companys have "nailed" magazines, stocks, rail covers, grips, front & rear BUIS, handguards, etc. all of which Magpul manufactures also. It's one thing when consumers say the market is flooded and one company nailed the design. It's another thing when Magpul themselves have come out and stated that Larue has nailed the design and the market is flooded already. They feel there is no need to produce one. |
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+1 Larue nailed it so why bother.. I dont have $100 to spend on a VFG, hell i dont even have $50 to spend on food!!! Im sure the magpul product would better fit many peoples budgets. I have no doubt that the LaRue VFG is awesome, but someone needs to think of the poor college kids Get off the internet and get a job. Or are you waiting for Obama to give you some of my money?? |
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+1 Larue nailed it so why bother.. I dont have $100 to spend on a VFG, hell i dont even have $50 to spend on food!!! Im sure the magpul product would better fit many peoples budgets. I have no doubt that the LaRue VFG is awesome, but someone needs to think of the poor college kids Get off the internet and get a job. Or are you waiting for Obama to give you some of my money?? The guy's in college, give him a break. 
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wow- someone here is sure judgemental...
I am in school full time, work part time (I'm actually at work now) have a kid on the way and have other priorities than just putting all my paycheck towards tricking out my AR. I for one think that Magpul would make a VFG that would be solid and affordable. I think paying 100$ for a VFG is pretty steep, it's just a hollow aluminum or plastic tube. ...and no, even if Obama personally offered me "re-distributed wealth" I would proudly say NO THANK YOU.
give us college kids a break- going through school while trying to support BRD is tough.
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Get off the internet and get a job. Or are you waiting for Obama to give you some of my money?? Yeah so i need 3 jobs instead of the 2 I have? Way to make assumptions you dirtbag. I am paying my own way through college without going A SINGLE CENT into debt, in addition to renting a house and trying to raise a family. Man I am such a deadbeat mooching off the government aren't I |
| Not being judgemental. Just the facts. MAGPUL told you why they arent making one and you continue to say they should. If you dont like LaRue's price buy a KAC for $20.00 of somthing similar. But if you want the best you are going to have to pony up the cash. Not ask someone to make a great VFG and expect them to give it away.. |
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Hoseking,
I wasnt talking about you but seeing how you want to put yourself in that group GREAT.. There are plenty of companys out there that "Think about us POOR college kids".. They can be found very easly in the EE.. KAC, CAA and a few others out there sell VFG's in the $20-$30 range all day long.. My problem is that you want a TOP NOTCH product like LaRue and MAGPUL for the same price as the lesser quality stuff.. While I have no problem paying top dollar for the best I can get. That is why I made the Obama reference cause that is basicly what he wants to do.. |
| Well I am basically not saying MAGPUL HAS to make a vfg I just think it would be nice. Take the pmag for example, its a top notch product that dare I may say, ist really NEEDED, but we all love them and they are very affordable without paying a premium extra cost usually associated with buying "the best" |
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The LaRue VFG is the best and is worth every penny and I would think that is why MAGPUL hasnt made one at this time..
Figure in that you get 3 different caps great ergonomics and the BEST QD assembly known to the AR. How can you complain about the price. If you dont have the $$ either work more to be able to buy one or settle for on of the lesser priced VFGs. Tango Down which was the standard for a long time are now selling cheap in the EE. I still have a few of them on back up guns.. Buy one of those and get one of the best for half the cost of the LaRue. ETA: page 2 is all mine |
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Hoseking, I wasnt talking about you but seeing how you want to put yourself in that group GREAT.. There are plenty of companys out there that "Think about us POOR college kids".. They can be found very easly in the EE.. KAC, CAA and a few others out there sell VFG's in the $20-$30 range all day long.. My problem is that you want a TOP NOTCH product like LaRue and MAGPUL for the same price as the lesser quality stuff.. While I have no problem paying top dollar for the best I can get. That is why I made the Obama reference cause that is basicly what he wants to do.. OK
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Not being judgemental. Just the facts. MAGPUL told you why they arent making one and you continue to say they should. If you dont like LaRue's price buy a KAC for $20.00 of somthing similar. But if you want the best you are going to have to pony up the cash. Not ask someone to make a great VFG and expect them to give it away.. 
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MAGPUL Guy,
I wasnt trying to put words in your mouth or speak on behalf of your company, that is why I said this "I would think that is why MAGPUL hasnt made one at this time"... Notice the at this time.. I too would be happy to see you guys make a VFG. I currently have 5 MIADs, a PRS stock, 2 trigger guards and atleast 20 XT rail panels.. I am a BIG MAGPUL fan.. Just dont agree with the OP wanting the best out there and complaining about price.. |
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whoa whoa wha...hang on there trigger
I wasn't "wanting the best out there and complaining about price" , thats not at all true- I never once stated that in my question at all. I was just wondering if anyone had heard if Magpul had any plans for a VFG in the future- I think Magpul is one of the few AR companies out there that offer SUPERB products for fair prices- and yes, IMHO I think that 100$ for a VFG is an little high for what it is- maybe for you it's not, but for me it is; like I said, I am supporting a family, with our first child on the way, working and going to school full-time, so "tricking out the AR with all the latest and most expensive gear" isn't exactly the highest priority that I have (for those of you that have that as your highest priority you need to get a life) Geesh man it was just a simple question- "does Magpul make a VFG?"- I asked this because their company has a reputation of making some of the best AR gear without charging out the nose for it. And as I stated earlier- I'm in school- and have a family I need to worry about supporting- so I don't have as much "disposable" income as you probably do- be more considerate and realize that not everyone has the funds to pay for the latest and greatest gear, there is nothing wrong with asking if a stellar company makes a certain AR part, especially if I know that that companies products will not be out of my budget. |
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I mean seriously, the only thing that would look absolutely AWESOME with my MIAD grip, and CTR would be a Magpul VFG Magpul VFG, MIAD Grip, Magpul CTR, Magpul Lower. http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_0919%201028%20Stick.jpg doh! thats a moe grip and stock. and i think ill stick with my fug |
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Not being judgemental. Just the facts. MAGPUL told you why they arent making one and you continue to say they should. If you dont like LaRue's price buy a KAC for $20.00 of somthing similar. But if you want the best you are going to have to pony up the cash. Not ask someone to make a great VFG and expect them to give it away..  ........I know what you did with your post.......be careful
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I mean seriously, the only thing that would look absolutely AWESOME with my MIAD grip, and CTR would be a Magpul VFG Magpul VFG, MIAD Grip, Magpul CTR, Magpul Lower. http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20III/IMG_0919%201028%20Stick.jpg  That is a Ugly VFG
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That is a Ugly VFGLooks are highly subjective, functionality is much less so, but the topic of the thread was "MAGPUL VFG", or I would have posted a different picture. [img='middle']http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_tongue.gif[/img] I do think that Magpul could come out with a dedicated VFG that the vast majority of people would like, and I'll bet it would be a good seller. They seem to have a idea of what the market likes. Who knows, maybe down the road once other projects are in full production we will see something. We know the little Magpul Elves have lots of ideas. |
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+1 Larue nailed it so why bother.. I dont have $100 to spend on a VFG, hell i dont even have $50 to spend on food!!! Im sure the magpul product would better fit many peoples budgets. I have no doubt that the LaRue VFG is awesome, but someone needs to think of the poor college kids Get a KAC foregrip. |
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