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4/20/2022 9:33:10 PM EDT
[#1]
Mike - as you source retro furniture, please add midlength triangle handguards to the wish list.
"In memory of Hard Corps One-Six"

Garry Owen
4/20/2022 9:50:44 PM EDT
[#2]
M4 Survival rifle clone down the road, maybe?

-"The truth does not require your belief in it to function."
-Genuine science is about gathering evidence and testing the veracity of theories, not cheerleading for a particular ideology.
4/21/2022 6:52:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunnut284:
M4 Survival rifle clone down the road, maybe?

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I still have the NoDak SRS-M chassis in inventory. But with no Marlin youth model XT-22 rifles to build them with sales were poor.

To make a clone of the original H&R M4 is a fool’s errand.

Braced pistols have become the new compact “survival rifle”
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/27/2022 10:16:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Hi Mike, I'm really looking forward for the release of your products.

I'm wondering who is doing the anodizing and if there will be a non H&R marked retro lower available in the future. Similar to the PSA stealth lowers or m4/m16a2/m16a4 lowers but with A1 profiles. The reason is because I own a colts part kit that I've been wanting to build.
4/27/2022 11:10:41 PM EDT
[#5]
The link posted in the op doesn’t work.
While it's true that opinions are like assholes and everybody has one please bear in mind that not everyone wants to see your ass.
4/27/2022 11:22:54 PM EDT
[#6]
GUU-5/P would be awesome, but any A1 with a pencil profile 14.5 P&W 1/7 twist wold be cool.

Looking forward to the new line.
4/27/2022 11:53:54 PM EDT
[#7]
Mike, the Mendoza falling block action is available.
Let's go Brandon!
4/28/2022 1:14:25 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By ElrodCod:
The link posted in the op doesn’t work.
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Website's temporarily down while they add a checkout system and stock the site with stripped lowers.


Right? Right?
4/28/2022 1:15:28 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Mike, the Mendoza falling block action is available.
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Got a link? Tried googling it and the only references I found were over a decade old.
4/28/2022 2:38:48 PM EDT
[#10]
Any plans for break action single shot shotguns?
Back in the land of Waffle House and sweet tea!!!
4/28/2022 2:45:25 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By Gripen:


Got a link? Tried googling it and the only references I found were over a decade old.
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Originally Posted By Gripen:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Mike, the Mendoza falling block action is available.


Got a link? Tried googling it and the only references I found were over a decade old.


Look up Mexican firearms forums, I posted some pics of mine there a few years ago.  Low pressure falling block action locked by the hammer.
Let's go Brandon!
4/28/2022 5:12:14 PM EDT
[#12]
@mike_nds will H&R have a CAGE code? Asking in case anyone wants to get a UID label for their lowers.
4/28/2022 6:06:50 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By Gripen:
@mike_nds will H&R have a CAGE code? Asking in case anyone wants to get a UID label for their lowers.
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No plans to.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/30/2022 11:27:04 AM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
So you guys are wanting this? Or do you mean a 16" OAL XM177E2?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Colt_609_XM177-2346435.jpg
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5/3/2022 5:05:52 PM EDT
[#15]
Got some anodizing samples yesterday.

Getting closer. I’m going to have them go a hair darker.

We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
5/3/2022 5:25:14 PM EDT
[#16]
Looks great
Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
5/3/2022 6:01:23 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By Banditman:
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+1
5/3/2022 7:54:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Mike, what is the weight difference btwn an A1 lower & the most recent reinforced buffer tube boss lowers?  Is it as much as an ounce?
Let's go Brandon!
5/3/2022 8:54:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Renfield][Edited] [#19]
Insert “50 Shades of Grey” joke here.

Parts look great already.  Thanks for taking the time necessary to make things to a high standard.

I’ve said for years, you can be on time once, but you can have a POS forever.
5/4/2022 4:36:03 AM EDT
[#20]
I need another AR like I need another hole in my head…but a nice retro rifle would be fun.
Stumbling on the stepstool of mediocracy...
5/4/2022 8:46:46 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Got some anodizing samples yesterday.

Getting closer. I’m going to have them go a hair darker.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/64670C49-0D8C-4BB1-A35C-8FEF7AD22DD2-2371136.jpg
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Color doesn’t matter if they will meet the spray paint on my MK-12’s.  I’ll take two.

Dan
Sheep, Sheepdog or Wolf? What are you?
5/4/2022 3:04:49 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By AGR1279:



Color doesn’t matter if they will meet the spray paint on my MK-12’s.  I’ll take two.

Dan
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Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Got some anodizing samples yesterday.

Getting closer. I’m going to have them go a hair darker.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/64670C49-0D8C-4BB1-A35C-8FEF7AD22DD2-2371136.jpg



Color doesn’t matter if they will meet the spray paint on my MK-12’s.  I’ll take two.

Dan



This!
5/5/2022 7:40:15 PM EDT
[#23]
I just submitted a PO for M16A2 and C7 upper forgings today.

Lead times are long right now, so I don’t know exactly when we’re going to get them.

But it is happening. I’ll post updates when I have them.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
5/5/2022 7:50:16 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
I just submitted a PO for M16A2 and C7 upper forgings today.

Lead times are long right now, so I don’t know exactly when we’re going to get them.

But it is happening. I’ll post updates when I have them.
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Thanks for the updates.
Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
5/5/2022 8:38:08 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:


Why wouldn't it?

Those are going to be the Marquee products.
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Gonna make any .308 Garands?

Also, what about the 999 top breaks?
<**Me:**> I just spent 95% of my paycheck on LaRue stuff, within 30 minutes of getting paid. < **mfingar:**> For what it's worth, Dillo Dust is great on Ramen. </**mfingar:**></**me:**>
5/6/2022 7:32:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds][Edited] [#26]
If we ever make a revolver it will not have an H&R lockwork.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
5/6/2022 2:04:34 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
If we ever make a revolver it will not have an H&R lockwork.
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You could likely make reasonable money making parts compatible Smiths w/o the Hillary Hole.  You could probably make money just selling frames.
Let's go Brandon!
5/6/2022 2:23:13 PM EDT
[#28]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
I just submitted a PO for M16A2 and C7 upper forgings today.

Lead times are long right now, so I don’t know exactly when we’re going to get them.

But it is happening. I’ll post updates when I have them.
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Any idea what pricing is going to look like? If you're able to price these in line with PSA's modern offerings I'll probably end up with one of everything from the retro line.
5/6/2022 2:31:05 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Got some anodizing samples yesterday.

Getting closer. I’m going to have them go a hair darker.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/64670C49-0D8C-4BB1-A35C-8FEF7AD22DD2-2371136.jpg
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Wait a freaking minute... H&R is going to be releasing M16A1s?

My brother and I will both be buying one the second its released.

Words can't describe how excited I am about this.
We're living in an episode of Who's Line is it Anyway.

Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
5/6/2022 7:08:39 PM EDT
[#30]
Earlier this year there was a thread that detailed some of the retro lowers coming from PSA/H&R, that mentioned an XM177E2 stamped lower being part of the mix. Is this still the case?
5/6/2022 7:26:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds][Edited] [#31]
We will have:

M16A1
XM177E2
XM16E1
Commando
GX-5758
M16A2
635
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
5/6/2022 9:56:35 PM EDT
[#32]
The only problem is I only have so much money.
5/7/2022 2:12:13 PM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By Rosta97:
The only problem is I only have so much money.
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$20 is still $20.  

You can also sell plasma.
Let's go Brandon!
5/7/2022 4:21:10 PM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
So you guys are wanting this? Or do you mean a 16" OAL XM177E2?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Colt_609_XM177-2346435.jpg
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Do THAT. People who care enough to nitpick about how you got the markings on the lower would rather fill out a Form 4 than have a barrel that is several inches out of spec and the bottom of the muzzle device blemmed on purpose.

You probably still wouldn't sell a ton of the complete rifles, but the uppers will probably fly out the door.

I personally am waiting for the 653/723 type (not picky). I would prefer a 16" OAL with P&W, because its only .2 inches of barrel in that case. I'm one of those weirdos that actually believes 14.5" is the best all around length for ARs that don't have some kind of special purpose, 14.7" is close enough, and there is virtually zero chance I would ever want to take the muzzle device off.
Catch me if you can. These are the days of our lives. I sleep with an AK and ride with a four-five.
5/8/2022 5:33:00 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles:
I personally am waiting for the 653/723 type (not picky). I would prefer a 16" OAL with P&W, because its only .2 inches of barrel in that case. I'm one of those weirdos that actually believes 14.5" is the best all around length for ARs that don't have some kind of special purpose, 14.7" is close enough, and there is virtually zero chance I would ever want to take the muzzle device off.
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An extended length A1 flash hider pinned and welded is even cooler than a 14.7"
5/8/2022 5:41:08 PM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles:

I personally am waiting for the 653/723 type (not picky). I would prefer a 16" OAL with P&W, because its only .2 inches of barrel in that case. I'm one of those weirdos that actually believes 14.5" is the best all around length for ARs that don't have some kind of special purpose, 14.7" is close enough, and there is virtually zero chance I would ever want to take the muzzle device off.
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I think the 653 and 654 are the best versions. Hopefully it happens, at least uppers...
5/8/2022 5:50:18 PM EDT
[#37]
Tagged.
5/8/2022 6:17:59 PM EDT
[#38]
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Originally Posted By mentalstampede:. An extended length A1 flash hider pinned and welded is even cooler than a 14.7"
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No, would rather have a 14.7" w/ standard flash hider.
Let's go Brandon!
5/10/2022 3:30:32 AM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Got some anodizing samples yesterday.

Getting closer. I’m going to have them go a hair darker.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/64670C49-0D8C-4BB1-A35C-8FEF7AD22DD2-2371136.jpg
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That grey looks amazing!
I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.

Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis
5/10/2022 3:32:21 AM EDT
[#40]
Any plans for faux moderators on the 177's ?
I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.

Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis
5/10/2022 5:55:14 AM EDT
[#41]
Midlength A1 handguards pretty pretty please
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.

General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human.

https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/the-four-causes-of-classical-education/
5/10/2022 1:05:08 PM EDT
[#42]
Got in my first batch of barrels. These are 1/7, rifle extension. The 1/12's are coming also.

We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
5/10/2022 1:47:28 PM EDT
[#43]
5/10/2022 4:00:32 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
I just submitted a PO for M16A2 and C7 upper forgings today.

Lead times are long right now, so I don’t know exactly when we’re going to get them.

But it is happening. I’ll post updates when I have them.
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Gray only or gray and black C7s?
5/10/2022 4:01:56 PM EDT
[#45]
Are you going to sell upper receiver groups and parts or only complete rifles?
5/10/2022 4:24:36 PM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
We will have:

M16A1
XM177E2
XM16E1
Commando
GX-5758
M16A2
635
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I'm looking forward to the M16A1 with 1:12 twist, I just hope the price point is low enough that it doesn't make more sense to go find an SP1.
Let me get my coffee first...
5/10/2022 4:31:39 PM EDT
[#47]
hot damn!
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.

General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human.

https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/the-four-causes-of-classical-education/
5/10/2022 9:01:53 PM EDT
[#48]
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Are you going to sell upper receiver groups and parts or only complete rifles?
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Mostly parts, some complete guns. I’m going to be flexible depending on how the market responds.

A1 and XM lowers will be done in both gray and black.

And all 4 upper types will be done in gray and black, with H&R doing mostly gray.

DPMS and PSA will be doing black only.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
5/10/2022 9:44:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Really excited to put together a few rifles with these kits. Any ballpark estimates on pricing yet for complete uppers and kits?
5/15/2022 7:57:03 AM EDT
[#50]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
If we ever make a revolver it will not have an H&R lockwork.
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Do you mean it will not be top break? That is the coolest part of the 999 and what makes it desirable. If it is not top break, then it is just another generic boring revolver that would not be worth making.

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