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Question... the current H&R a1 lower assemblies in black. Are they coming with type "D" or "E":stocks?
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"Damn Yankee "
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Originally Posted By AZgunn3r: Yesterday was a great day! F1 Trust approved for my 11.5" H&R Commando Colt mags delivered as well as my C7 upper receiver Took my H&R 14,7" p/w and slapped it on the C7 https://imgur.com/a/vgrh8DI View Quote ![]() |
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Death to quislings.
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That looks freaking awesome.
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View Quote Does anyone know of a reliable "upgrade kit" for the followers on those old colt 20 round mags ? I have a bunch of them that i have had for around 35 to 40 years and would like to update the followers. |
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Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Does anyone know of a reliable "upgrade kit" for the followers on those old colt 20 round mags ? I have a bunch of them that i have had for around 35 to 40 years and would like to update the followers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Does anyone know of a reliable "upgrade kit" for the followers on those old colt 20 round mags ? I have a bunch of them that i have had for around 35 to 40 years and would like to update the followers. If you're running straight 20s, you need a tilting follower. In a curved 20 or 30, you can run a modern no-tilt follower. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: If you're running straight 20s, you need a tilting follower. In a curved 20 or 30, you can run a modern no-tilt follower. View Quote They are real colt 20 rounders that i got back in the 1980s and 1990s when i had my SP1 colt. I know about the modern anti tilt followers for the 30 rounders, i already did all of them with magpul followers. I am looking to find out if they make a specific one for the old colt 20 round mags, and what company makes them if they do. Would like to update them as well and know that the ones for the 30 rounders wont work in the 20s . |
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Originally Posted By Tedpro1: They are real colt 20 rounders that i got back in the 1980s and 1990s when i had my SP1 colt. I know about the modern anti tilt followers for the 30 rounders, i already did all of them with magpul followers. I am looking to find out if they make a specific one for the old colt 20 round mags, and what company makes them if they do. Would like to update them as well and know that the ones for the 30 rounders wont work in the 20s . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Originally Posted By backbencher: If you're running straight 20s, you need a tilting follower. In a curved 20 or 30, you can run a modern no-tilt follower. They are real colt 20 rounders that i got back in the 1980s and 1990s when i had my SP1 colt. I know about the modern anti tilt followers for the 30 rounders, i already did all of them with magpul followers. I am looking to find out if they make a specific one for the old colt 20 round mags, and what company makes them if they do. Would like to update them as well and know that the ones for the 30 rounders wont work in the 20s . https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-and-Green-Follower-p/1510-b.htm |
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"Blem" stripped upper came today, looks great of course, and definitely gray. Very close color match to the H&R stuff I got over a year ago.
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Originally Posted By grondike: I have no experience with them, but John Masen Co. sells a couple of different 20rd magazine rebuild kits with new springs and followers. They kit with the green follower is described as 'no tilt' so I don't know if/how it would work. https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-and-Green-Follower-p/1510-b.htm View Quote Thanks, will get some and try them. |
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@mike_nds
Any word on the gray stripped A1 uppers. |
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Death to quislings.
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saw that today. thats sexy af
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I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
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The voices in my head say I’m just being paranoid
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M4a1 clones on the instagram. I guess we now know where all the Kac rails went.
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Originally Posted By bikencycle: Could you phrase share the photo here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bikencycle: Originally Posted By ALostKey: M4a1 clones on the instagram. I guess we now know where all the Kac rails went. Could you phrase share the photo here. https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/1703872483781206506?s=20 |
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“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" - Robert Novak
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/1703872483781206506?s=20https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6Ve_ICXsAAJdaJ?format=webp&name=small View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Paulie771: Originally Posted By bikencycle: Originally Posted By ALostKey: M4a1 clones on the instagram. I guess we now know where all the Kac rails went. Could you phrase share the photo here. https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/1703872483781206506?s=20https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6Ve_ICXsAAJdaJ?format=webp&name=small |
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The voices in my head say I’m just being paranoid
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/1703872483781206506?s=20https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6Ve_ICXsAAJdaJ?format=webp&name=small View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Paulie771: Originally Posted By bikencycle: Originally Posted By ALostKey: M4a1 clones on the instagram. I guess we now know where all the Kac rails went. Could you phrase share the photo here. https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/1703872483781206506?s=20https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6Ve_ICXsAAJdaJ?format=webp&name=small Commercial Matech and 16” barrel. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By ALostKey: M4a1 clones on the instagram. I guess we now know where all the Kac rails went. View Quote That's probably my fault. I found real KAC rails (well used, nice and seasoned) for under one seventy five each, so I picked up a couple. Then I found some lightly used P&S ones with the rail cover kits and a P&S broomstick for right around a deuce, so one was purchased. Of course, I found the Expo Arms ones on sale at Primary Arms for ninety-nine greenbacks, so yet another was ordered. I wouldn't be spending all this dough on quad rails and M4 clones if i could only get ahold of a couple H&R stripped grey A1 uppers... |
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Death to quislings.
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The voices in my head say I’m just being paranoid
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Originally Posted By backbencher: The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Commercial Matech and 16” barrel. ![]() The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize... I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? |
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556: I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Commercial Matech and 16” barrel. ![]() The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize... I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? I dunno, I just know that most of the MaTechs I was issued wouldn't hold the range you set under recoil, & forget about keeping the sight folded down. |
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Death to quislings.
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The voices in my head say I’m just being paranoid
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Originally Posted By backbencher: I dunno, I just know that most of the MaTechs I was issued wouldn't hold the range you set under recoil, & forget about keeping the sight folded down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Commercial Matech and 16” barrel. ![]() The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize... I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? I dunno, I just know that most of the MaTechs I was issued wouldn't hold the range you set under recoil, & forget about keeping the sight folded down. I’ve not had any issues with mine, but I haven’t used them heavily either. |
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Hello! I’m new to the retro itch. I scored one of these 14.7 PW Slickside H&R Uppers for a 654 inspired build.
Can anyone recommend a gray H&R lower to pair with? |
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Originally Posted By YoungPatriot: Hello! I’m new to the retro itch. I scored one of these 14.7 PW Slickside H&R Uppers for a 654 inspired build. Can anyone recommend a gray H&R lower to pair with? View Quote Slickside is Air Force, so you can’t really go wrong. I’d probably use THIS ONE, but it’s personal preference. |
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Slickside is Air Force, so you can’t really go wrong. I’d probably use THIS ONE, but it’s personal preference. View Quote Good advice! |
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Originally Posted By AZgunn3r: Yesterday was a great day! F1 Trust approved for my 11.5" H&R Commando Colt mags delivered as well as my C7 upper receiver Took my H&R 14,7" p/w and slapped it on the C7 https://imgur.com/a/vgrh8DI View Quote Awesome |
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The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize...
I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? I dunno, I just know that most of the MaTechs I was issued wouldn't hold the range you set under recoil, & forget about keeping the sight folded down. I’ve not had any issues with mine, but I haven’t used them heavily either. I have used Matechs for a long time, never had issues with the range setting getting messed up by recoil (idiot privates/getting hung up on kit is another matter). I can speak to the fact that when they get worn they don't want to stay folded down though. The surplus GI ones are usually quite a score. You can find them for like 20-30 bucks in NOS condition. There are better models that improve upon the Matech in almost every way, but those also cost a lot more. For general shooters and clones (mostly clones) they really decent for the money (plus its a BIUS. put that money into a optic). |
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Originally Posted By 12BMilsurp: I have used Matechs for a long time, never had issues with the range setting getting messed up by recoil (idiot privates/getting hung up on kit is another matter). I can speak to the fact that when they get worn they don't want to stay folded down though. The surplus GI ones are usually quite a score. You can find them for like 20-30 bucks in NOS condition. There are better models that improve upon the Matech in almost every way, but those also cost a lot more. For general shooters and clones (mostly clones) they really decent for the money (plus its a BIUS. put that money into a optic). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 12BMilsurp: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Commercial Matech and 16” barrel. ![]() The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize... I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? I dunno, I just know that most of the MaTechs I was issued wouldn't hold the range you set under recoil, & forget about keeping the sight folded down. I’ve not had any issues with mine, but I haven’t used them heavily either. I have used Matechs for a long time, never had issues with the range setting getting messed up by recoil (idiot privates/getting hung up on kit is another matter). I can speak to the fact that when they get worn they don't want to stay folded down though. The surplus GI ones are usually quite a score. You can find them for like 20-30 bucks in NOS condition. There are better models that improve upon the Matech in almost every way, but those also cost a lot more. For general shooters and clones (mostly clones) they really decent for the money (plus its a BIUS. put that money into a optic). ![]() |
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Death to quislings.
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Originally Posted By 12BMilsurp: The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize... I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? I dunno, I just know that most of the MaTechs I was issued wouldn't hold the range you set under recoil, & forget about keeping the sight folded down. I’ve not had any issues with mine, but I haven’t used them heavily either. I have used Matechs for a long time, never had issues with the range setting getting messed up by recoil (idiot privates/getting hung up on kit is another matter). I can speak to the fact that when they get worn they don't want to stay folded down though. The surplus GI ones are usually quite a score. You can find them for like 20-30 bucks in NOS condition. There are better models that improve upon the Matech in almost every way, but those also cost a lot more. For general shooters and clones (mostly clones) they really decent for the money (plus its a BIUS. put that money into a optic). View Quote Where are you seeing them for that cheap? |
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Originally Posted By mtomso7464: Where are you seeing them for that cheap? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mtomso7464: Originally Posted By 12BMilsurp: The mil-spec MaTechs are no prize... I assumed they were the same apart from the markings, is that not the case? I dunno, I just know that most of the MaTechs I was issued wouldn't hold the range you set under recoil, & forget about keeping the sight folded down. I’ve not had any issues with mine, but I haven’t used them heavily either. I have used Matechs for a long time, never had issues with the range setting getting messed up by recoil (idiot privates/getting hung up on kit is another matter). I can speak to the fact that when they get worn they don't want to stay folded down though. The surplus GI ones are usually quite a score. You can find them for like 20-30 bucks in NOS condition. There are better models that improve upon the Matech in almost every way, but those also cost a lot more. For general shooters and clones (mostly clones) they really decent for the money (plus its a BIUS. put that money into a optic). Where are you seeing them for that cheap? 2012. ![]() |
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"Damn Yankee "
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Originally Posted By grondike: I have no experience with them, but John Masen Co. sells a couple of different 20rd magazine rebuild kits with new springs and followers. They kit with the green follower is described as 'no tilt' so I don't know if/how it would work. https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-and-Green-Follower-p/1510-b.htm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By grondike: Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Originally Posted By backbencher: If you're running straight 20s, you need a tilting follower. In a curved 20 or 30, you can run a modern no-tilt follower. They are real colt 20 rounders that i got back in the 1980s and 1990s when i had my SP1 colt. I know about the modern anti tilt followers for the 30 rounders, i already did all of them with magpul followers. I am looking to find out if they make a specific one for the old colt 20 round mags, and what company makes them if they do. Would like to update them as well and know that the ones for the 30 rounders wont work in the 20s . https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-and-Green-Follower-p/1510-b.htm I received the following information from this company on these "kits". I e-mailed them and asked if they would work with my old Colt 20 round magazines. They said the springs would work, but the followers would not work as replacements. |
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Originally Posted By Tedpro1: I received the following information from this company on these "kits". I e-mailed them and asked if they would work with my old Colt 20 round magazines. They said the springs would work, but the followers would not work as replacements. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Originally Posted By grondike: Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Originally Posted By backbencher: If you're running straight 20s, you need a tilting follower. In a curved 20 or 30, you can run a modern no-tilt follower. They are real colt 20 rounders that i got back in the 1980s and 1990s when i had my SP1 colt. I know about the modern anti tilt followers for the 30 rounders, i already did all of them with magpul followers. I am looking to find out if they make a specific one for the old colt 20 round mags, and what company makes them if they do. Would like to update them as well and know that the ones for the 30 rounders wont work in the 20s . https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-and-Green-Follower-p/1510-b.htm I received the following information from this company on these "kits". I e-mailed them and asked if they would work with my old Colt 20 round magazines. They said the springs would work, but the followers would not work as replacements. Question... is there a reason you're replacing those alloy followers? In 35 years of building/shooting AR's, it's been my experience that 20rnd mags with factory followers are dead-nuts reliable? It's the curve of the 30rnd mags that require an "anti tilt" follower |
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"Damn Yankee "
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Originally Posted By SrBenelli: Question... is there a reason you're replacing those alloy followers? In 35 years of building/shooting AR's, it's been my experience that 20rnd mags with factory followers are dead-nuts reliable? It's the curve of the 30rnd mags that require an "anti tilt" follower View Quote Same. Never had issues with my old 20's. |
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Originally Posted By tstetz: Same. Never had issues with my old 20's. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tstetz: Originally Posted By SrBenelli: Question... is there a reason you're replacing those alloy followers? In 35 years of building/shooting AR's, it's been my experience that 20rnd mags with factory followers are dead-nuts reliable? It's the curve of the 30rnd mags that require an "anti tilt" follower Same. Never had issues with my old 20's. |
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Originally Posted By SrBenelli: Question... is there a reason you're replacing those alloy followers? In 35 years of building/shooting AR's, it's been my experience that 20rnd mags with factory followers are dead-nuts reliable? It's the curve of the 30rnd mags that require an "anti tilt" follower View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SrBenelli: Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Originally Posted By grondike: Originally Posted By Tedpro1: Originally Posted By backbencher: If you're running straight 20s, you need a tilting follower. In a curved 20 or 30, you can run a modern no-tilt follower. They are real colt 20 rounders that i got back in the 1980s and 1990s when i had my SP1 colt. I know about the modern anti tilt followers for the 30 rounders, i already did all of them with magpul followers. I am looking to find out if they make a specific one for the old colt 20 round mags, and what company makes them if they do. Would like to update them as well and know that the ones for the 30 rounders wont work in the 20s . https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-and-Green-Follower-p/1510-b.htm I received the following information from this company on these "kits". I e-mailed them and asked if they would work with my old Colt 20 round magazines. They said the springs would work, but the followers would not work as replacements. Question... is there a reason you're replacing those alloy followers? In 35 years of building/shooting AR's, it's been my experience that 20rnd mags with factory followers are dead-nuts reliable? It's the curve of the 30rnd mags that require an "anti tilt" follower In a severely undergassed situation, I found a curved 30 round Magpul more reliable than a straight 20 rnd Magpul. |
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Originally Posted By mtomso7464: Where are you seeing them for that cheap? View Quote Flea Markets, Gun show parts bins, Craigslist. Nowhere on a vendors website for sure... I've found that if you search around in the less obvious locations/make connections you can find clone parts for pretty cheap (e.g. 70-$100 M4/5 RAS, Matechs, even TA-31F ACOGS) |
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Originally Posted By SrBenelli: Question... is there a reason you're replacing those alloy followers? In 35 years of building/shooting AR's, it's been my experience that 20rnd mags with factory followers are dead-nuts reliable? It's the curve of the 30rnd mags that require an "anti tilt" follower View Quote Yes, i have some that had issues years ago and they got mixed together when i moved to SC. not knowing which ones they were, i would rather replace all the followers and springs if i can find a replacement kit. I did that with all my GI 30 rounders and it was a world of difference . |
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Not to devolve too far but since we are on the topic of 20rd mags. Does anyone make a 20rd FDE anodized metal mag?
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I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
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Originally Posted By bikencycle: Grey 604 upper on an old school RRA lower. https://i.imgur.com/FBBDVfG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/giDWR71.jpg View Quote I kind of like that grip |
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So Mote It Be
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Is the complete M16A1 lower not available in grey with a GI quality type D stock?
The only one I’m seeing with a D is the XM16E1. |
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Originally Posted By metalsaber: Not to devolve too far but since we are on the topic of 20rd mags. Does anyone make a 20rd FDE anodized metal mag? View Quote Duramag has them in bronze ano ASC has them in FDE But I'm more of a cheap guy and rattle can most of my metal mags. |
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Originally Posted By bikencycle: Grey 604 upper on an old school RRA lower. https://i.imgur.com/FBBDVfG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/giDWR71.jpg View Quote What makes it old school? |
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Originally Posted By mtomso7464: What makes it old school? View Quote The lower is from the 90’s. If it was a car you could put antique vehicle plates on it, lol. |
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Originally Posted By grondike: Maybe they're some of the later Colt commercial/LE mag with plastic followers? View Quote I have some newer Brownells 20's with plastic followers, but I have a bunch of old ones with the aluminum followers too. Gotta look. Not all are Colt, and not all the old ones may be aluminum followers, but def some of them are. Either way, all my 20's have been good. My old reserve unit had boxes of 20's and I always used those on the range during quals, just because. Some of the old guys (back then, I'm the old guy now!) grumbled about it and gave forebodings of doom about fully loading the 20's but I never had an issue. Dunno. Maybe just lucky so far! |
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