[ARCHIVED THREAD] - New SP6920 Rollmark (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/7/2011 12:34:28 PM EDT
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=219125579
Nice and neutral without a bunch of gay ass LE marked shit all over it. 
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I really like that it says "M4 Carbine" and agree that all of the "LE" oriented marking variations are a bit much.
I wish if they would have just the horse logo centered at the top with a minimal amount of text below. Although obviously just a subjective aesthetic issue, the stylized "Colt" next to the larger horse logo has always looked unbalanced and strange to me. At least they didn't call it "Sportical" |
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The Pony should be bigger and centered with just the words "M4 Carbine" below it. No need for the Sporter.
All in all though, it will satisfy the non-LE crowd. I personally prefer the Mil/LE marks on mine.. makes it feel and look a little more authentic. FWIW.. anybody looking to pick these up.. they are going for $1099 on Sturm.. |
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Quoted: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=219125579 Nice and neutral without a bunch of gay ass LE marked shit all over it. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/pix756220412.jpg So... it's just "match target" or "sporter" now... 
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Quoted: Agreed. The presence of the word "Sporter" means that it is banned in CT.The Pony should be bigger and centered with just the words "M4 Carbine" below it. No need for the Sporter. All in all though, it will satisfy the non-LE crowd. I personally prefer the Mil/LE marks on mine.. makes it feel and look a little more authentic. FWIW.. anybody looking to pick these up.. they are going for $1099 on Sturm.. However, the LE Carbine was GTG provided we pinned the buttstock, put a brake on it, and knocked off the bayo lug. Essentially making a MT with original rollmarks. |
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CALIFORNIA LEGAL BUT IT HAS SPORTER MARKED ON THE RECEIVER, WHICH IS BANNED BY NAME ! IF IT WAS MARKED M4 CARBINE IT WOULD BE LEGAL. WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THE LARGEST MARKET IN THE COUNTRY , YOU WOULD THINK? THEY WOULD MARKET TO THEM ?
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IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CALIFORNIA LEGAL BUT IT HAS SPORTER MARKED ON THE RECEIVER, WHICH IS BANNED BY NAME ! IF IT WAS MARKED M4 CARBINE IT WOULD BE LEGAL. WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THE LARGEST MARKET IN THE COUNTRY , YOU WOULD THINK? THEY WOULD MARKET TO THEM ? Agreed. I don't get it. Cheers |
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Quoted: Quoted: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CALIFORNIA LEGAL BUT IT HAS SPORTER MARKED ON THE RECEIVER, WHICH IS BANNED BY NAME ! IF IT WAS MARKED M4 CARBINE IT WOULD BE LEGAL. WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THE LARGEST MARKET IN THE COUNTRY , YOU WOULD THINK? THEY WOULD MARKET TO THEM ? Agreed. I don't get it. Cheers Even if the 6920 didn't say "Law Enforcement", or "Sporter" (or even "Match Target"), and otherwise remained as-is, it would still have enough evil features to qualify as an AW under PC 12276.1(a). Has anyone gone to one of the distributors, and asked them to contract with Colt for a special run of rifles built to MT6400 specifications, preinstalled with bullet buttons, a monsterman grip, and a new rollmark like "Cali Carbine" or something else unique instead of the "Match Target" label?  http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf |
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If the Sporter was left off the roll mark, you'd be able to own one of these in California? I'm not completely up on California law, but I thought Cali still had similar laws to the AWB in effect? So no removable flash hider, collapsible stock, etc... Don't get confused between the Sporter line and the Match Target line.
I don't know where the public Colt's Mfg 2011 catalog is right now, but here is a link to my copy that shows both the SP and MT lines. Colt's Mfg - 2011 Catalog ETA: GunnyG posted while I was typing this up. 
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IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CALIFORNIA LEGAL BUT IT HAS SPORTER MARKED ON THE RECEIVER, WHICH IS BANNED BY NAME ! IF IT WAS MARKED M4 CARBINE IT WOULD BE LEGAL. WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THE LARGEST MARKET IN THE COUNTRY , YOU WOULD THINK? THEY WOULD MARKET TO THEM ? Agreed. I don't get it. Cheers Even if the 6920 didn't say "Law Enforcement", or "Sporter" (or even "Match Target"), and otherwise remained as-is, it would still have enough evil features to qualify as an AW under PC 12276.1(a). Has anyone gone to one of the distributors, and asked them to contract with Colt for a special run of rifles built to MT6400 specifications, preinstalled with bullet buttons, a monsterman grip, and a new rollmark like "Cali Carbine" or something else unique instead of the "Match Target" label? <a href="http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/calguns/awflowchart.jpg</a> http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf WITH A BULLET BUTTON AND THE SPORTER NAME REMOVED IT WOULD BE LEGAL . THEY SELL THE 6940 AND THE 6921 14.5 BARREL WITH A PINNED FLASHIDER AND THE 6724 IS LEGAL . |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CALIFORNIA LEGAL BUT IT HAS SPORTER MARKED ON THE RECEIVER, WHICH IS BANNED BY NAME ! IF IT WAS MARKED M4 CARBINE IT WOULD BE LEGAL. WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THE LARGEST MARKET IN THE COUNTRY , YOU WOULD THINK? THEY WOULD MARKET TO THEM ? Agreed. I don't get it. Cheers Even if the 6920 didn't say "Law Enforcement", or "Sporter" (or even "Match Target"), and otherwise remained as-is, it would still have enough evil features to qualify as an AW under PC 12276.1(a). Has anyone gone to one of the distributors, and asked them to contract with Colt for a special run of rifles built to MT6400 specifications, preinstalled with bullet buttons, a monsterman grip, and a new rollmark like "Cali Carbine" or something else unique instead of the "Match Target" label? <a href="http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/calguns/awflowchart.jpg</a> http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf WITH A BULLET BUTTON AND THE SPORTER NAME REMOVED IT WOULD BE LEGAL . THEY SELL THE 6940 AND THE 6921 14.5 BARREL WITH A PINNED FLASHIDER AND THE 6724 IS LEGAL . Wow! I'm glad to hear that! 
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Thanks for sharing.
Yeah, nice and clean markings, the main reason I've been avoiding to get the LE6920 for a long time is the large LE markings. I don't see any caliber marking in that pic, but if it don't have any that's OK because it could be used with multi caliber builds. I would also prefer that it should have an AR-15 marking, and no offense to guys in states with their own AWB, I'm just old school and you younger guys just ignore me. If ever I get one of these in the future, I'm tempted to add "for civilian use only" markings on the right side of the magwell. 
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IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CALIFORNIA LEGAL BUT IT HAS SPORTER MARKED ON THE RECEIVER, WHICH IS BANNED BY NAME ! IF IT WAS MARKED M4 CARBINE IT WOULD BE LEGAL. WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THE LARGEST MARKET IN THE COUNTRY , YOU WOULD THINK? THEY WOULD MARKET TO THEM ? Agreed. I don't get it. Cheers Even if the 6920 didn't say "Law Enforcement", or "Sporter" (or even "Match Target"), and otherwise remained as-is, it would still have enough evil features to qualify as an AW under PC 12276.1(a). Has anyone gone to one of the distributors, and asked them to contract with Colt for a special run of rifles built to MT6400 specifications, preinstalled with bullet buttons, a monsterman grip, and a new rollmark like "Cali Carbine" or something else unique instead of the "Match Target" label? <a href="http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/calguns/awflowchart.jpg</a> http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf WITH A BULLET BUTTON AND THE SPORTER NAME REMOVED IT WOULD BE LEGAL . THEY SELL THE 6940 AND THE 6921 14.5 BARREL WITH A PINNED FLASHIDER AND THE 6724 IS LEGAL . Wow! I'm glad to hear that! http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/capslockp12.jpg I ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS , NOTHING PERSONAL AND NOT MAD ! |
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=219125579 Nice and neutral without a bunch of gay ass LE marked shit all over it. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/pix756220412.jpg Damn, looks about perfect to me. My next AR will be one of these. |
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Quoted: Quoted: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=219125579 Nice and neutral without a bunch of gay ass LE marked shit all over it. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/pix756220412.jpg Damn, looks about perfect to me. My next AR will be one of these. Only $1049 Buy it Now, too. Not bad at all! |
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Thanks for sharing. Yeah, nice and clean markings, the main reason I've been avoiding to get the LE6920 for a long time is the large LE markings. I don't see any caliber marking in that pic, but if it don't have any that's OK because it could be used with multi caliber builds. I would also prefer that it should have an AR-15 marking, and no offense to guys in states with their own AWB, I'm just old school and you younger guys just ignore me. If ever I get one of these in the future, I'm tempted to add "for civilian use only" markings on the right side of the magwell.
I can barely see the LEO markings under all the Krylon on my LE6920. 
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Thanks for sharing. Yeah, nice and clean markings, the main reason I've been avoiding to get the LE6920 for a long time is the large LE markings. I don't see any caliber marking in that pic, but if it don't have any that's OK because it could be used with multi caliber builds. I would also prefer that it should have an AR-15 marking, and no offense to guys in states with their own AWB, I'm just old school and you younger guys just ignore me. If ever I get one of these in the future, I'm tempted to add "for civilian use only" markings on the right side of the magwell.
I can barely see the LEO markings under all the Krylon on my LE6920.
~Augee I never spent much time staring at rollmarks, so I dont care either way as long as it says colt on it somewhere |
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Looks great, only thing I'd change would be the selector markings from "SAFE-FIRE" to "SAFE-SEMI" but I understand why most manufacturers don't do that.
I still don't understand why they didn't introduce this model (the M4 carbine "Sporter") 6.5 years ago. Quoted:
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Thanks for sharing. Yeah, nice and clean markings, the main reason I've been avoiding to get the LE6920 for a long time is the large LE markings. I don't see any caliber marking in that pic, but if it don't have any that's OK because it could be used with multi caliber builds. I would also prefer that it should have an AR-15 marking, and no offense to guys in states with their own AWB, I'm just old school and you younger guys just ignore me. If ever I get one of these in the future, I'm tempted to add "for civilian use only" markings on the right side of the magwell.
I can barely see the LEO markings under all the Krylon on my LE6920.
~Augee I never spent much time staring at rollmarks, so I dont care either way as long as it says colt on it somewhere Your avatar suggests you spent at least a few minutes staring at rollmarks. |
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Thanks for sharing. Yeah, nice and clean markings, the main reason I've been avoiding to get the LE6920 for a long time is the large LE markings. I don't see any caliber marking in that pic, but if it don't have any that's OK because it could be used with multi caliber builds. I would also prefer that it should have an AR-15 marking, and no offense to guys in states with their own AWB, I'm just old school and you younger guys just ignore me. If ever I get one of these in the future, I'm tempted to add "for civilian use only" markings on the right side of the magwell.
I agree 100% with you, Alpha Romeo! A Colt AR-15 should have the "AR-15" roll mark on it, darn it! |
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Looks great, only thing I'd change would be the selector markings from "SAFE-FIRE" to "SAFE-SEMI" but I understand why most manufacturers don't do that. I still don't understand why they didn't introduce this model (the M4 carbine "Sporter") 6.5 years ago. Quoted:
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Thanks for sharing. Yeah, nice and clean markings, the main reason I've been avoiding to get the LE6920 for a long time is the large LE markings. I don't see any caliber marking in that pic, but if it don't have any that's OK because it could be used with multi caliber builds. I would also prefer that it should have an AR-15 marking, and no offense to guys in states with their own AWB, I'm just old school and you younger guys just ignore me. If ever I get one of these in the future, I'm tempted to add "for civilian use only" markings on the right side of the magwell.
I can barely see the LEO markings under all the Krylon on my LE6920.
~Augee I never spent much time staring at rollmarks, so I dont care either way as long as it says colt on it somewhere Your avatar suggests you spent at least a few minutes staring at rollmarks. cute but my avatar was made for me by Predator. and I still dont give a fuck about LEO rollmarks |
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looks like they only ship with a 5 round mag. That was just for that particular item on Gunbroker, my dealer is showing them with two 20 rd mags but I'll talk to them tomorrow to find out for sure. I've also seen other internet dealers advertising them as low as $1,036 to $1,009, probably discounted cash price (and no shipping/ insurance charges). |
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Love that they released a non-neutered model marked "M4 Carbine," but it just looks... sparse. Kind of off. Kind of unnecessary, IMHO to go through the trouble of re-tooling (even if it's just the rollmark setup) just to take off the LEO markings. They didn't even open up any new markets, as all the states that have "by name" bans apply to the "Colt Sporter" line already.
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Love that they released a non-neutered model marked "M4 Carbine," but it just looks... sparse. Kind of off. Kind of unnecessary, IMHO to go through the trouble of re-tooling (even if it's just the rollmark setup) just to take off the LEO markings. They didn't even open up any new markets, as all the states that have "by name" bans apply to the "Colt Sporter" line already. ~Augee ha ha you just proved a point Postal0311 made to me today. no matter what they do, even if its sometihng "everybody " wants. people will still complain
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Am I nuts or is that missing a chunk of metal where it meets the upper?  The ding is mild in comparison.+1 that is a finger nail sized chunk missing, but I still love Colt (not bashing) That's just what you guys think, it's only the picture, I've seen it actually today at my local dealer and it's just lots of oil. No dings or chips, it's a battle weapon what do you guys expect.
The one I saw was just about a hundred more units more than the serial number shown in the original post. The markings looks exactly like the pic shown here, and the other markings near the selector says "Colt's Mfg. Co. Inc.", nice. 
Also the usual Colt markings, M4 above the gas hole of the upper, C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 on the barrel, F marked FSB, square forge mark (Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises) on the detachable carry handle, and C both on the bolt and M16 auto carrier. The M4 buttstock was smooth and no rough edges unlike the same stock I got with my 6721 last year, mine was rough with a lot of mold flash. |
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looks like they only ship with a 5 round mag. I checked it with my dealer with the mag still in the factory sealed plastic bag, it only comes with one 5 round mag. In the bag is the usual stuff, owner's manual, cleaning rods, bore & chamber brush and a black basic silent sling with two black metal buckles. No problem with that at least you already have a hunting mag, lots of PMAGs (etc.) also USGI mags are available now at very low prices. |
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looks like they only ship with a 5 round mag. I checked it with my dealer with the mag still in the factory sealed plastic bag, it only comes with one 5 round mag. In the bag is the usual stuff, owner's manual, cleaning rods, bore & chamber brush and a black basic silent sling with two black metal buckles. No problem with that at least you already have a hunting mag, lots of PMAGs (etc.) also USGI mags are available now at very low prices. yeah I cant imagine anyone just having that 1 5 round mag at this point pretty sure they are actually 8 round mags arent they? the short ones wit the plastic bottom? |
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yeah I cant imagine anyone just having that 1 5 round mag at this point pretty sure they are actually 8 round mags arent they? the short ones wit the plastic bottom? I'm not sure if it could hold 5 or 8, yes it's a very short mag with the lower 1/3 portion which is all black plastic. I never had those short mags before, all mine are 20 rd and 30 rd Colts. Hey, while we're talking, I know you have several LE6920, does yours have a fire and safe markings on the right side of your selector? I noticed the SP6920 have them but both my 6721 don't got them. I'm going to drop a bombshell post pretty soon.
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Love that they released a non-neutered model marked "M4 Carbine," but it just looks... sparse. Kind of off. Kind of unnecessary, IMHO to go through the trouble of re-tooling (even if it's just the rollmark setup) just to take off the LEO markings. They didn't even open up any new markets, as all the states that have "by name" bans apply to the "Colt Sporter" line already. ~Augee ha ha you just proved a point Postal0311 made to me today. no matter what they do, even if its sometihng "everybody " wants. people will still complain I am something of a classic contrarian.
But hey, I've got to think of some reason why it's better that I went through all that trouble to specifically find a Colt Defense marked MT6400C lower for my first SBR / First Deployment M4-clone! Bombshell post, eh? Shall I jump for joy; or duck for cover?
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Love that they released a non-neutered model marked "M4 Carbine," but it just looks... sparse. Kind of off. Kind of unnecessary, IMHO to go through the trouble of re-tooling (even if it's just the rollmark setup) just to take off the LEO markings. They didn't even open up any new markets, as all the states that have "by name" bans apply to the "Colt Sporter" line already. ~Augee ha ha you just proved a point Postal0311 made to me today. no matter what they do, even if its sometihng "everybody " wants. people will still complain I am something of a classic contrarian.
But hey, I've got to think of some reason why it's better that I went through all that trouble to specifically find a Colt Defense marked MT6400C lower for my first SBR / First Deployment M4-clone! Bombshell post, eh? Shall I jump for joy; or duck for cover?
~Augee sorry man I wasnt paying attention. what was that you were saying?
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