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9/20/2009 9:37:33 PM EDT
I just noticed the max effective range changed in the new osr flyer. Is this with the 16" barrel?

Thanks,

Ben
9/21/2009 4:15:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes
We have conducted most of the testing with the 16".
It seems to be the preferred length.

9/21/2009 4:26:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Greg Coker reported some ridiculously small 1,200+ yard group recently shot out of the 16" he's demoing with ... I forget the size.
9/21/2009 4:43:36 AM EDT
[#3]
So, for the sake of intellectual exercises - What if I were to get a 20in OSR and put a surefire can on it?  I am able to get headshots to 500 with my 5.56 AR, and am looking to be able to engage IDPA sized steel to 1k.  

Thanks
9/21/2009 5:51:24 AM EDT
[#4]
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9/21/2009 6:42:27 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Yes
We have conducted most of the testing with the 16".
It seems to be the preferred length.



Well, fudge. I guess there's no reason for me to get the 18 or 20 then

Thank you!
9/21/2009 6:42:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Greg Coker reported some ridiculously small 1,200+ yard group recently shot out of the 16" he's demoing with ... I forget the size.


9/21/2009 9:20:42 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
So, for the sake of intellectual exercises - What if I were to get a 20in OSR and put a surefire can on it?
Thanks


On a semi-related note, does anyone know if a Surefire suppressor will mount on a 16" OSR?

Based on the careful measurements I did on the photos in the initial OSR brochure, and the specs on the Surefire can (which apparently extends behind the Surefire brake/flash hider), I came to the conclusion that mounting the Surefire can will require at least the 18" barrel.  Can anyone confirm that?

––Gene
9/21/2009 9:37:11 AM EDT
[#8]
The SureFire suppressor works perfectly with the 16" OSR, ask me how I know...
9/21/2009 12:29:05 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
The SureFire suppressor works perfectly with the 16" OSR, ask me how I know...




I'm beginning to find "It's useless to resist!"

ETA: Even had to include left handed shooting. I was trying to use that as a reason NOT to spend 5 grand

<––––- Cross dominant
9/21/2009 12:37:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
The SureFire suppressor works perfectly with the 16" OSR, ask me how I know...


Holy shit
9/21/2009 1:50:16 PM EDT
[#11]
So basically what ML is trying to say, is this barrel is capable of shooting back in time and is what actually killed Hilter......
9/21/2009 2:59:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
The SureFire suppressor works perfectly with the 16" OSR, ask me how I know...


And here I was all comfortable with my decision to go with an 18" barrel when I get "the call."  Rats!  Now I have to think some more...

––Gene
9/22/2009 2:24:05 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
So basically what ML is trying to say, is this barrel is capable of shooting back in time and is what actually killed Hilter......


Wrong Kimosabe...obviously you've not yet seen Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds have ya?...wont divulge the ending as not to ruin it for those planning to see it soon...but no, it wasn't a 16" barrel which did him in.............
9/22/2009 6:38:25 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So basically what ML is trying to say, is this barrel is capable of shooting back in time and is what actually killed Hilter......


Wrong Kimosabe...obviously you've not yet seen Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds have ya?...wont divulge the ending as not to ruin it for those planning to see it soon...but no, it wasn't a 16" barrel which did him in.............



Thaks for not revealing the ending, as I ain't seen it yet.
9/22/2009 10:23:06 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So basically what ML is trying to say, is this barrel is capable of shooting back in time and is what actually killed Hilter......


Wrong Kimosabe...obviously you've not yet seen Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds have ya?...wont divulge the ending as not to ruin it for those planning to see it soon...but no, it wasn't a 16" barrel which did him in.............



One of the best movie scenes of all time!!  
9/22/2009 11:25:13 AM EDT
[#16]
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Can someone tell me who this ass wipe is, I see "deleted" on all of his postings....what is going on, am I missing something?

77
9/22/2009 11:41:32 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
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Deleted


Can someone tell me who this ass wipe is, I see "deleted" on all of his postings....what is going on, am I missing something?

77


I think he got banned for stalking ML.
9/22/2009 11:45:59 AM EDT
[#18]
So, it looks like a lot of leupolds have been used on the osr... any comments on a  favorite model leupold for the OSR?
9/22/2009 1:30:23 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So basically what ML is trying to say, is this barrel is capable of shooting back in time and is what actually killed Hilter......


Wrong Kimosabe...obviously you've not yet seen Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds have ya?...wont divulge the ending as not to ruin it for those planning to see it soon...but no, it wasn't a 16" barrel which did him in.............



Thaks for not revealing the ending, as I ain't seen it yet.


Its an entertaining flick, "tarantino" style of course.
9/22/2009 5:01:34 PM EDT
[#20]
So why would someone end up getting anything BUT a 16" ?
9/22/2009 7:06:45 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
So why would someone end up getting anything BUT a 16" ?


I don't know...maybe because someone might want complete propellant burn...which doesn't happen till  20" at least with FGMM.

http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/
9/22/2009 9:22:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So why would someone end up getting anything BUT a 16" ?


I don't know...maybe because someone might want complete propellant burn...which doesn't happen till  20" at least with FGMM.

http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/


Sounds like you're sold on the 20" OSR.
Cool.

Me, I'll stick with the 16" OSR. It'll nail anything out to the distances I'll be shooting.
What I'll give up in velocity, I will gain in maneuverability and balance.

Either way, even the best night vision only gets you out to 500 meters with good target-recognition.



9/23/2009 3:54:18 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So why would someone end up getting anything BUT a 16" ?


I don't know...maybe because someone might want complete propellant burn...which doesn't happen till  20" at least with FGMM.

http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/


Sounds like you're sold on the 20" OSR.
Cool.

Me, I'll stick with the 16" OSR. It'll nail anything out to the distances I'll be shooting.
What I'll give up in velocity, I will gain in maneuverability and balance.

Either way, even the best night vision only gets you out to 500 meters with good target-recognition.





lol mfingar.

I'll probably be getting a 18" now.  Lets just say the custom bolt gun I ordered 2 months ago showed up...and they screwed me hardcore..
mistimed break
damaged shoulder near the threads.
small chunk missing out of the barrel.
What looks like rust on the bolt.
And the recoil lug doesn't fit my aics stock despite them saying it would. :/

So ya I'll probably be putting in a new order this week.  Any idea if I ordered today when I'm likely to get it?  By xmas maybe?
9/23/2009 4:03:19 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:Either way, even the best night vision only gets you out to 500 meters with good target-recognition.






I beg to differ
9/23/2009 9:42:18 AM EDT
[#25]
Finger reminded me of an August 3rd email from our man Greg Coker ...




I am currently out here in Raton, NM out at the Whittington center doing some testing with the OSR at altitude and I have had extremely great results!

Here is my data for 2 x days.

Alt - 6742 feet msl

Temp - 68-74

Density Alt - 8654 feet

Mark,

Looks good to me.  Here is some of the data I have gathered this week.

Winds - 4 to 7, half value
OSR, 16 inch barrel, round count - 6210 rounds
Ammo - M118LR, 2001 Lot

I engaged targets from 300 yards to 1123 yards.

I engaged the target at 1123 yards, a 9 inch plate, for sh*tz and grins.  I did not have data or dope for that range so I swagged.  Came up 50 MOA and sent it.  My spotter called 2 moa high so I adjusted to 48 MOA and sent the shot.  The spotter did not call it but I heard it.  There was a rock just below the target so I shot it and it was a direct hit and the spotter called the shot.  The next 2 x shots were at the plate and they were hits at 1123, pretty impressive.  I conducted multiple engagements for 2 days at various ranges, multiple targets.  I think the OSR is a great rifle and will increase our effectiveness on the battlefield.

I just want to let the Operators know that they can have the confidence to engage targets at long range with good results.

Talk to you later.

Adios

Greg





9/23/2009 9:44:45 AM EDT
[#26]
ML...I really wished he captured muzzle velocity.  Looking at the numbers the round should be going back to or already has gone subsonic at that point.  So if he's reliable hitting that far out thats pretty interesting.
9/23/2009 10:27:27 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
ML...I really wished he captured muzzle velocity.  Looking at the numbers the round should be going back to or already has gone subsonic at that point.  So if he's reliable hitting that far out thats pretty interesting.


It was a few years back shooting with Todd Hodnett that  I knocked down 3 out of 5 LaRue targets with a 308 at ~1,250 yards ... 18" bolt gun - Lapua match - Horus Vision ...

To each his own.









9/23/2009 10:43:21 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
ML...I really wished he captured muzzle velocity.  Looking at the numbers the round should be going back to or already has gone subsonic at that point.  So if he's reliable hitting that far out thats pretty interesting.


It was a few years back shooting with Todd Hodnett that  I knocked down 3 out of 5 LaRue targets with a 308 at ~1,250 yards ... 18" bolt gun - Lapua match - Horus Vision ...

To each his own.





What is that supposed to mean?








9/23/2009 2:01:20 PM EDT
[#29]
I think I'll be getting the 16" now. And to think I was worried about getting to 900-1000
9/23/2009 4:44:25 PM EDT
[#30]
VERY nice.
9/24/2009 8:54:16 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So basically what ML is trying to say, is this barrel is capable of shooting back in time and is what actually killed Hilter......


Wrong Kimosabe...obviously you've not yet seen Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds have ya?...wont divulge the ending as not to ruin it for those planning to see it soon...but no, it wasn't a 16" barrel which did him in.............



Thaks for not revealing the ending, as I ain't seen it yet.


You will enjoy Sir...in fact, I guarantee you will!  
9/24/2009 10:49:55 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
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Can someone tell me who this ass wipe is, I see "deleted" on all of his postings....what is going on, am I missing something?

77


he is the designated troll here at arfcom. can't wait till he finally gets band.
10/18/2009 1:47:17 PM EDT
[#33]
So, any more range reports?

Thanks,

Ben
10/18/2009 2:21:31 PM EDT
[#34]
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11/5/2009 10:53:53 PM EDT
[#35]
A couple months ago I read a thread by a Ranger whare he gave a very detailed review of his issue SCARs (L and H). He mentioned guys were getting good hits at 900m with the H with 16" barrels scoped with Elcan Specter DR on 4X.
11/6/2009 6:53:30 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
A couple months ago I read a thread by a Ranger whare he gave a very detailed review of his issue SCARs (L and H). He mentioned guys were getting good hits at 900m with the H with 16" barrels scoped with Elcan Specter DR on 4X.


It'd be nice to know at least the altitude and temp for those 900m shots. Doing it at 8000' in 80degF weather is much different than doing it at sea level in 45degF weather.
11/6/2009 12:09:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Since you have Team privileges, do a search on "SCAR" in the Armory section for +30 days and you might find the thread, and more info.
12/1/2009 4:46:29 PM EDT
[#38]
so, any more range tests?
12/1/2009 5:29:34 PM EDT
[#39]
Damn you LaRue!!!!


What's the lead time? I'm still recovering from my Stealth purchase.
12/1/2009 5:51:38 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The SureFire suppressor works perfectly with the 16" OSR, ask me how I know...


And here I was all comfortable with my decision to go with an 18" barrel when I get "the call."  Rats!  Now I have to think some more...

––Gene


Same here.  Sounds like Mark is saying the extra 2" doesn't really change much but weight (and wait).