Posted: 10/24/2016 3:25:00 PM EDT
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Anyone else have a rifle that really doesn't like swapping can for no can?
Of all my rifles I have one that shifts more than about 1.5", and it shifts nearly 12 times that. Any idea what would cause this in one rifle? Setup is a 16" 556 tOBR, SF break, SOCOM mini, ACOG 4x32, LT105, shooting 855. No strikes rubs or anything else to indicate the can is the issue. Accuracy is fine with or without the can or I'd say I over torqued the break. I'm lost. |
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This sounds like a good idea but I'm not willing to seperate myself from the rifle. You could come down  Quoted:
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Send entire setup to me and ample ammo for testing purposes. I'll contact you when testing/evaluation is complete and submit my findings. This sounds like a good idea but I'm not willing to seperate myself from the rifle. You could come down Wish I could. |
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Hmmm, I have other barrels I could stick on there but what problem would that identify? Quoted:
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Clearly you must buy another barrel to trouble shoot the situation. Hmmm, I have other barrels I could stick on there but what problem would that identify? potential mechanical properties issue with the barrel, i.e. not at the strength it should be and is sagging from the weight of the can? ETA: highly doubt that is the issue with a LaRue barrel, unless its one of the older LW or very early in house field grades? |
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potential mechanical properties issue with the barrel, i.e. not at the strength it should be and is sagging from the weight of the can? ETA: highly doubt that is the issue with a LaRue barrel, unless its one of the older LW or very early in house field grades? Quoted:
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Clearly you must buy another barrel to trouble shoot the situation. Hmmm, I have other barrels I could stick on there but what problem would that identify? potential mechanical properties issue with the barrel, i.e. not at the strength it should be and is sagging from the weight of the can? ETA: highly doubt that is the issue with a LaRue barrel, unless its one of the older LW or very early in house field grades? No it's full LT, maybe I'll swap out and pop a few shots. |
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have you tried another ammo type/weight? Honestly I haven't shot it in suppressed in about two years but I remember the first time I shot it there was a significant correction. This weekend the boy and I were running drills so decided to save weight but he couldn't hit anything which is very much not like him and it took us a while to figure it out so we put the can back on and he was right back on target. So all that to say I haven't tried other ammo yet...not that I have any other 556 ready to shoot anyway 
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Clearly you must buy another barrel to trouble shoot the situation. Hmmm, I have other barrels I could stick on there but what problem would that identify? You would have to move the Muzzle Device to the new barrel, but it would identify whether it's something with that barrel or with the MD/can. ETA: to put it in perspective, while it's 18 inches at the target, that's only .3 degrees deflection somewhere at the gun... can got tweaked, mount got tweaked, fair amount of options. |
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You would have to move the Muzzle Device to the new barrel, but it would identify whether it's something with that barrel or with the MD/can. ETA: to put it in perspective, while it's 18 inches at the target, that's only .3 degrees deflection somewhere at the gun... can got tweaked, mount got tweaked, fair amount of options. Quoted:
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Clearly you must buy another barrel to trouble shoot the situation. Hmmm, I have other barrels I could stick on there but what problem would that identify? You would have to move the Muzzle Device to the new barrel, but it would identify whether it's something with that barrel or with the MD/can. ETA: to put it in perspective, while it's 18 inches at the target, that's only .3 degrees deflection somewhere at the gun... can got tweaked, mount got tweaked, fair amount of options. 18 inches is a miss on any target I'd shoot at 
Other barrel has the break already so I'll give it a shot soon. |
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18 inches is a miss on any target I'd shoot at
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Clearly you must buy another barrel to trouble shoot the situation. Hmmm, I have other barrels I could stick on there but what problem would that identify? You would have to move the Muzzle Device to the new barrel, but it would identify whether it's something with that barrel or with the MD/can. ETA: to put it in perspective, while it's 18 inches at the target, that's only .3 degrees deflection somewhere at the gun... can got tweaked, mount got tweaked, fair amount of options. 18 inches is a miss on any target I'd shoot at
Other barrel has the break already so I'll give it a shot soon. I think what he is saying is even a sub 1 degree shift at the can/brake/threads can causes a huge shift at POI. |
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Paperwork, of course. Go wait by your mail box. Quoted:
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Third choice send mini to me for disposal( with all the right paperwork of course) Paperwork, of course. Go wait by your mail box. https://geissele.com/15-5-56mm-suppressor-alignment-rod.html |
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Third choice send mini to me for disposal( with all the right paperwork of course) Paperwork, of course. Go wait by your mail box. https://geissele.com/15-5-56mm-suppressor-alignment-rod.html $75 for 18" of brass rod? I'm in the wrong damn buisness
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$75 for 18" of brass rod? I'm in the wrong damn buisness Quoted:
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Third choice send mini to me for disposal( with all the right paperwork of course) Paperwork, of course. Go wait by your mail box. https://geissele.com/15-5-56mm-suppressor-alignment-rod.html $75 for 18" of brass rod? I'm in the wrong damn buisness 33.33%, repeating, of course, on the way to a new barrel, or you could just get the shaft. 
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Third choice send mini to me for disposal( with all the right paperwork of course) Paperwork, of course. Go wait by your mail box. https://geissele.com/15-5-56mm-suppressor-alignment-rod.html $75 for 18" of brass rod? I'm in the wrong damn buisness I dont think its brass but i do know that a precision ground rod takes a lot of time to make on a pricey surface grinder |
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Third choice send mini to me for disposal( with all the right paperwork of course) Paperwork, of course. Go wait by your mail box. https://geissele.com/15-5-56mm-suppressor-alignment-rod.html $75 for 18" of brass rod? I'm in the wrong damn buisness SUPERCONCENTRICITY! 
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No idea. If it's not a 1911, CL3 or have a Larue stamp on it, it has probably been making it's way from my gungeon to EE Quoted:
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S2S didnt geiselle make a rod that went in the bore for inspecting supresor concentricity? No idea. If it's not a 1911, CL3 or have a Larue stamp on it, it has probably been making it's way from my gungeon to EE Surefire carries them now, but they're made by G. |
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Third choice send mini to me for disposal( with all the right paperwork of course) Paperwork, of course. Go wait by your mail box. https://geissele.com/15-5-56mm-suppressor-alignment-rod.html $75 for 18" of brass rod? I'm in the wrong damn buisness Not brass. Precision ground tool steel. |
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the fact you've let this go for almost 2 years before starting any scientific experimentation perplexes even me oh wait Officer Hey it shoots good with a can, it shoots good without a can...it just doesn't like to flip flop. I can't be blamed for liking to shoot with a can
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