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6/9/2015 12:25:27 AM EDT
For my tAR 7.62 16" I've narrowed my list of optics down to one these 3 scopes:  1. Burris XTR II 3x-15x-50,   2. Burris XTR II 4x-20x-50,   3. Burris XTR II 5x-25x-50                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                               
Primarily I'll be shooting at 200 yds, but my club has a 600 yd range that I will shoot also.

The scope mount will be a LT104.

Here is where I need your help, which magnification range should I be looking at and why? Also which reticle do you suggest and why? G2B Mil-Dot or SCR MOA?

Please give advice only to these options, as I've already decided on the Burris XTR II.

For anyone that's interested, Burris has a $100.00 Rebate offer on select XTR II scopes through August 31st.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

6/9/2015 2:18:29 AM EDT
[#1]
You know what they say about opinions....

But I'd go for the 5-25x (or maybe the 4-20x) in mil-dot, and I assume the turrets are mil-dot too?  (I shoot a 3.5-21x and a 6-24x on my two .308 rifles....and have no issues from 100-1000 yards)

That being said, while I prefer working in mils, you may not.  Do you have a shooting partner you regularly shoot with?  What system are they using?  It's helpful if you're speaking the same language (mils or moa) that your partner is using.



ETA:  While there are some people who still use a Mil-dot reticle with MOA knobs (they prefer this combination as they like to make wind calls and/or range in mils, but make elevation adjustments in moa). Most people find that HIGHLY confusing and prefer to have their reticle type match their turrets, ie mil dot reticle / mil turrets, -or- moa reticle / moa turrets.

Most, but not all, competitive shooters use mil dot scopes. Generally speaking mils (which are base10) are easier if you think in metric....and conversely moa (which is base.25) is easier if you think in inches. However, with practice, it's not hard to master either.

There are MANY youtube videos on the subject or you can just google "MILS vs. MOA" for better explanations

Also, have you given any thought to the pros and cons of FFP vs. SFP?
6/9/2015 8:41:36 AM EDT
[#2]
The SCR Mil reticle should also be available. It is more of a mil hash style reticle as opposed to mil dot. Similar to NF MIL-R reticle. It should be an option on any of the XTR-II's you listed.
6/9/2015 9:56:58 AM EDT
[#3]
If you are older like me, then more magnification is better.  I run a 6-24x magnification range for shooting similar ranges that you specify.







I would go MIL/MIL but whatever suits you and you're used to is probably best.  If you are looking at Burris, I would definitely look at the SCR reticle.  It really is pretty nice.  










I am not sure it is out yet in MIL in all models.  I'm pretty sure that they have not released a 4-20x with it yet.  I have heard they are shipping the higher magnification with the SCR.










BR,




 
6/10/2015 12:40:57 AM EDT
[#4]
Guys thanks for the responses. As for FFP vs. SFP, I've decided that FFP is good for me. Not sure if Mil or MOA is that big of a deal for me. Although all my scoped shooting has been MOA up till now. Pretty sure I can learn to use Mil. My shooting partner is my son and we are both kinda new at longer range shooting, so it will be a learn as we go process. I am trying to decide between the G2B which is Mil-Dot or the SCR reticle right now, the SCR can be had with either Mil-Dot or MOA  (leaning towards the SCR over the G2B). I believe that Burris matches the turrets Mil to Mil, and MOA to MOA. My eyes are 64+ years old and even though the Eye Dr. says I don't need glasses, I can use all the help I can get!