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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:04:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: Maybe we'll see some pics today, maybe.  I'm also interested what's in the box as far as any accessories aside from a 30rd magazine. From the marketing pics it looks like it'll come with a set of Troy BUIS. Cheers |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:06:21 AM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw: From the marketing pics it looks like it'll come with a set of Troy BUIS. Cheers They do. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:26:07 AM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MGYSGT8541: You are right. I shouldnt have said the half brain part. I am sorry. Yes I was involved in the rifle length A5. I still don't think the A5 much better then carbine buffer and tube. I also don't find mid length that much better. Not enough to warrant a change. 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:54:11 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: They do. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw: From the marketing pics it looks like it'll come with a set of Troy BUIS. Cheers They do. Did you order one yet? I need to do so. Cheers |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:59:43 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw: Did you order one yet? I need to do so. Cheers I haven't ordered one yet. I have switched jobs recently and unfortunately I cannot afford $2000 on a carbine right now. I hope to order one in a couple of months if they are still around. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 1:39:58 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: I haven't ordered one yet. I have switched jobs recently and unfortunately I cannot afford $2000 on a carbine right now. I hope to order one in a couple of months if they are still around. I hear that and good luck with the new job. Cheers |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 1:49:54 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gelmir: I'll keep this simple for the knuckle dragger crowd. If Colt lowered the price to $1700 and sold 1000 models in carbine length and 1000 midlength , they'd have sold out on midlegth and sitting on 600 units of carbine...just saying Well, pricing is already hovering ~$1700 so there's that. And if in theory Colt's started with 1k units of both (carbine / mid gas), and sold 1k units of both then they'd not be sitting on any. 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 1:52:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Yes I was involved in the rifle length A5. I still don't think the A5 much better then carbine buffer and tube. I also don't find mid length that much better. Not enough to warrant a change. In what capacity were you involved? Design? Testing? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:34:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: huey_crew_chief]
[#9]
Ok guys, picked it up today. I am going to get some pics tonight. Here are some high points:
"C" marked upper 1 Gen 2 Magpul magazine Mlok QD socket and sling mount NO picatinny accessory rails or rail covers Magpul trigger guard. "Colt" on rail is blacked out No caliber listed on lower, all writing laser etched "H" buffer Troy CAGE code BUIS |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:52:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: MGYSGT8541]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: In what capacity were you involved? Design? Testing? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:18:56 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Ok guys, picked it up today. I am going to get some pics tonight. Here are some high points: "C" marked upper 1 Gen 2 Magpul magazine Mlok QD socket and sling mount NO picatinny accessory or rail covers Magpul trigger guard. "Colt" on rail is blacked out No caliber listed on lower, all writing laser etched "H" buffer Troy CAGE code BUIS Bastards ! |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:42:31 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DieselII: Bastards ! Hoping AU didn't take them out of the box. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:20:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: Bishop3]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Hoping AU didn't take them out of the box. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Originally Posted By DieselII: Bastards ! Hoping AU didn't take them out of the box. I don't think they would do that! Remove accessories? I'll find out when I can finally pick up mine, was dropped shipped from distributer & arrived today. So far, hearing about the lack of accessories in the box (no picatinny attachment or rail covers) has not met my higher expectation for a higher priced marked up Colt carbine. Every picture I've seen included the picatinny and rail covers. Why no accessories? IIRC this happened with some of the U.S. property marked Colt SOCOM M4A1 missing accessories. Also, was expecting the caliber designation engraved on receiver. Though I believe as long as the caliber is marked on the barrel is all that is required for the manufacturer on caliber markings. Hmm. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:39:40 PM EST
[#14]
These photos are being posted for @mgysgt8541. Post 1 of 2.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:40:43 PM EST
[#15]
These photos are being posted for @mgysgt8541. Post 2 of 2.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:50:28 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Hoping AU didn't take them out of the box. I doubt they did. There was issues with rail covers and/or broom stick handles not being shipped in the boxes on some rifles from Colt when the 2018 US prop rifles first came out. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:55:07 PM EST
[#17]
@Minuteman1636
What is it in the plastic package under the manual? I couldn't determine what it is from the picture. M-LOK QD socket? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:56:43 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: @Minuteman1636 What is it in the plastic package under the manual? I couldn't determine what it is from the picture. M-LOK QD socket? I do not know. The rifle belongs to @mgysgt8541. Perhaps he will come here and answer your question. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:03:45 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: I do not know. The rifle belongs to @mgysgt8541. Perhaps he will come here and answer your question. That is the mlok qd mount |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:04:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: CYBIN]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Ok guys, picked it up today. I am going to get some pics tonight. Here are some high points: "C" marked upper 1 Gen 2 Magpul magazine Mlok QD socket and sling mount NO picatinny accessory rails or rail covers Magpul trigger guard. "Colt" on rail is blacked out No caliber listed on lower, all writing laser etched "H" buffer Troy CAGE code BUIS Picked up mine today too. I'll add to the above: MPC marked bolt C marked M16 carrier CAGE code marked barrel MP barrel glyph is two distinct characters. Right side bolt release does not lock the bolt back. 6 position buffer tube M4 feed ramps |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:12:34 PM EST
[#21]
So what do we have for a barrel profile under the handguards?
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NM, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:17:28 PM EST
[#22]
skinny till the gas block, A2 after.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:21:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: OTDR]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CYBIN: Picked up mine today too. I'll add to the above: MPC marked bolt C marked M16 carrier CAGE code marked barrel MP barrel glyph is two distinct characters. Right side bolt release does not lock the bolt back. 6 position buffer tube M4 feed ramps D@mn! Still needs a BAD lever lol. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:43:35 PM EST
[#24]
Any markings on the trigger/hammer or inside the pistol grip?
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:48:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: Muricha]
[#25]
 Colt M5 CM5 Sentry 16" Carbine with ambi lower and M-LOK rail 2022 edition |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:12:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: MGYSGT8541]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxford411: So what do we have for a barrel profile under the handguards? |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:13:23 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: @Minuteman1636 What is it in the plastic package under the manual? I couldn't determine what it is from the picture. M-LOK QD socket? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:38:10 PM EST
[#28]
Apologies for the dumb questions:
Are the trigger and hammer pins longer than normal? What is the purpose of the raised surfaces around the pins? |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 9:37:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: Bishop3]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P229SAS: Apologies for the dumb questions: Are the trigger and hammer pins longer than normal? What is the purpose of the raised surfaces around the pins? If the CM5 lower is anything like my CM762, yes the trigger, hammer pins are longer & would explain the raised area on the receiver. I do not know the purpose for this but would guess it is designed to reinforce the pin holes? Eta: I may be able to pick up mine today. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:41:53 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P229SAS: Apologies for the dumb questions: Are the trigger and hammer pins longer than normal? What is the purpose of the raised surfaces around the pins? |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 7:00:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: Bishop3]
[#31]
 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileBolt MPC marked Bolt Carrier 'C' marked Radian Raptor ambi charging handle Wanting to buy magpul rail covers, add the picatinny rails to front hand guard for light and shoot it. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 9:43:58 PM EST
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Posted: 9/24/2022 4:56:02 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: How are the FCG components marked? I'll punch the pins out some other time after coffee. Though looks to be the typical Schmid Tool semi FCG?  Attached File Attached File
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Posted: 9/24/2022 7:33:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: Muricha]
[#35]
Colt M5 CM5 Sentry 16" Carbine with ambi lower and M-LOK rail 2022 edition |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 7:40:57 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: I'll punch the pins out some other time after coffee. Though looks to be the typical Schmid Tool semi FCG? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/20220924_043054_jpg-2537140.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/20220924_043142_jpg-2537141.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: How are the FCG components marked? I'll punch the pins out some other time after coffee. Though looks to be the typical Schmid Tool semi FCG? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/20220924_043054_jpg-2537140.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/20220924_043142_jpg-2537141.JPG Good deal, thanks. Nice to see the Schmid Tool notched hammers back. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2022 10:48:26 AM EST
[#37]
I wonder who actually makes the rain and QD stuff. Centurian?
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Posted: 9/24/2022 11:26:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: Bishop3]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: I wonder who actually makes the rain and QD stuff. Centurian? May be Geissele, who knows? The Centurian QD rail on my 6960 upper seems it could be thinner than the CM5 rail. I don't know what I could compare the CM5 with. The rail on my CM7 seems thick. I can get a measurement to confirm. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2022 3:17:38 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: May be Geissele, who knows? The Centurian QD rail on my 6960 upper seems it could be thinner than the CM5 rail. I don't know what I could compare the CM5 with. The rail on my CM7 seems thick. I can get a measurement to confirm. Looks like a Magpul QD mount. |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 8:50:12 PM EST
[#40]
Looking through the few we got in, one has this special place on the upper...
I will say these M5s have no slop between the upper and lower. Not used to Colts having tight lockups. 
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Posted: 9/24/2022 9:11:14 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tactical_dude: Looking through the few we got in, one has this special place on the upper... I will say these M5s have no slop between the upper and lower. Not used to Colts having tight lockups. . https://i.postimg.cc/j57KhhrG/20220924-204333.jpg Looks as if "something" was milled off. Much like the "sanitized" contract overruns. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:56:25 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Looks as if "something" was milled off. Much like the "sanitized" contract overruns. The uppers are built off the monolithic pattern even though they are two piece. They use the barrel nut and barrel extension of the monolithic guns. They milled off the LMT Pat. Number because it is not longer monolithic. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 11:56:14 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski: The uppers are built off the monolithic pattern even though they are two piece. They use the barrel nut and barrel extension of the monolithic guns. They milled off the LMT Pat. Number because it is not longer monolithic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Looks as if "something" was milled off. Much like the "sanitized" contract overruns. The uppers are built off the monolithic pattern even though they are two piece. They use the barrel nut and barrel extension of the monolithic guns. They milled off the LMT Pat. Number because it is not longer monolithic. Gotcha. Didn't even cross my mind. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 1:14:12 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski: The uppers are built off the monolithic pattern even though they are two piece. They use the barrel nut and barrel extension of the monolithic guns. They milled off the LMT Pat. Number because it is not longer monolithic. This could very well be but I wonder why we have 3 other rifles in this thread that don’t have it? |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 1:35:52 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxford411: This could very well be but I wonder why we have 3 other rifles in this thread that don’t have it? Judging by the profile of the transition of the upper receiver to handguards they have started using new forging dies compared to the earlier guns that appeared to be using forgings that match the profile of 694X series guns. The new forging dies probably don’t have the LMT Pat number pressed in. Just a guess tho. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 1:52:10 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski: Judging by the profile of the transition of the upper receiver to handguards they have started using new forging dies compared to the earlier guns that appeared to be using forgings that match the profile of 694X series guns. The new forging dies probably don’t have the LMT Pat number pressed in. Just a guess tho. I think you’re right on this, there is a difference in transition profile between rifles in this thread. After seeing this, and the C stamps I really do thing that these are NOS uppers that have been sitting around that these first rifles are shipping with. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 1:56:38 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxford411: I think you’re right on this, there is a difference in transition profile between rifles in this thread. After seeing this, and the C stamps I really do thing that these are NOS uppers that have been sitting around that these first rifles are shipping with. I think the opposite. The rifles that shipped appear to have new receivers while the older pictures show a profile that has been used by the forgings for a decade. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 11:15:28 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tactical_dude: Looking through the few we got in, one has this special place on the upper... I will say these M5s have no slop between the upper and lower. Not used to Colts having tight lockups. https://i.postimg.cc/j57KhhrG/20220924-204333.jpg Here is some information I came across from trusted source on these: 1. Some of the initial production M5's used monolithic forgings. 2. The patent number was not needed and was milled off. 3. These were distributed in small numbers and should be considered moderately rare. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 12:56:42 PM EST
[#49]
Looks like AU dropped the price on these, $1850 now...
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Posted: 9/26/2022 2:01:52 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1811GNR: Looks like AU dropped the price on these, $1850 now... hahah - figures , after the initial run , they lowered the price . Not surprised though . I really thought they would've sold out long before now . |
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