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12/22/2014 2:34:36 PM EDT
Figured I just may as well ask the experts instead of taking random peoples advice.

Yes it came with the zeroing target. After reading through it, it seems this target is mainly used to get you on target at father ranges which you will then check to make sure you are zeroed.

Lets say I want to zero at 50 to keep things simple. After using the provided target and checking the zero at 50 yards, should I be hitting POA/POI, or should I zero it to where the POA is slightly higher and to the right of POI. In essence keeping the laser in an offset zero at the range I want it zeroed at.

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks.
12/22/2014 3:19:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Offset windage and intersecting elevation.
12/22/2014 3:21:40 PM EDT
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Offset windage and intersecting elevation.
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I see what you are saying

So basically make the elevation zeroed at the distance I want and roughly ~1'' to the right to keep the offset in line
12/22/2014 11:23:21 PM EDT
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Figured I just may as well ask the experts instead of taking random peoples advice.



Yes it came with the zeroing target. After reading through it, it seems this target is mainly used to get you on target at father ranges which you will then check to make sure you are zeroed.



Lets say I want to zero at 50 to keep things simple. After using the provided target and checking the zero at 50 yards, should I be hitting POA/POI, or should I zero it to where the POA is slightly higher and to the right of POI. In essence keeping the laser in an offset zero at the range I want it zeroed at.



Hope that makes sense.



Thanks.
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You should not be hitting POA/POI at 50. In fact, there will never be a time you are POA/POI. You will just have the same holdovers as a 50/200 zero. Its a constant offset with the consistency of elevation being roughly the same as a red dot sight, and the windage being approx 1" right. Forgive me because I haven't looked back in the thread to check, but have you watched our how to zero an IR laser video on the youtubes?



 
12/23/2014 9:39:03 AM EDT
[#4]
I watched it before.

I was just wanting to confirm to keep the offset roughly 1" to the right
12/24/2014 9:44:51 PM EDT
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Eric, your video was very clear and helpful. But it certainly contradicts Chappy's recommendations in his chapter on zeroing in the Panteo IR/NVG video. He recommends a converging zero. I think that there are differing opinions as to which is best. The target sent out with the ATPIAL-C shows impact left of center when the aiming laser is actually right of bore. Confusing to some.
12/25/2014 1:24:25 AM EDT
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Zero method only matters in that you can apply it quickly to various spontaneous distances on demand.  Would you rather compensate for elevation changes only as a function of range to target or elevation and windage? (like you would have to if you used a converging zero).   I use the method Eric describes so I only have to know the holds relative to elevation.  

The impact circles are to the left of the center circle BECAUSE the lasers sit to the right of the muzzle.  Hold on the center of the targets where the reflector is and the bullets will impact in the circles to the left when it is zeroed.
12/30/2014 10:30:46 AM EDT
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I think I got it figured out.

100 yard hits in the dead of night. Did a 10 round group and zeroed it a little left of center at 100.

Very surprised by how accurate these groupings were.