Originally Posted By Copper_splicer:

Josiah,

Has anyone thought about offering the KS-47 in 6.5 Grendel and/or 6mm ARC? These rounds are based on the the 7.62x39. They should feed fine in ak mags.

Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:
Brownell’s seems to have given up. How about a 416 clone? Or even a direct impingement model that uses the 416 receiver height/rails?

Originally Posted By Brian01:
@PalmettoStateArmory
So basically there's an application for peacekeeping and humanitarian forces to be able to have weapons in the hands of lightly trained people who don't respond well to recoil or muzzle blast. They also may have a higher risk of hitting people who you want to survive the wounds for a variety of reasons. And we all know handguns are much harder to train than long guns. This use case also overlaps with a lot of civilian firearm owners.

So how about the most dummy simple to operate PCC possible that has some sort of delayed recoil system and takes a QD suppressor.

The controls I'm imagining would be very similar to the AK-V, almost exactly the same, except with an AR15-style ambidexterous selector switch. The reason I like the AK47-style charging handle is because it minimizes how much you have to think about and understand, and it eliminates the need to add a forward assist because the reciprocating handle already is a forward assist. Maybe it doesn't even need a bolt release button. The AK-V style mag release paddle is dummy simple too. Perhaps not as fast to operate for higher trained users who want to save split seconds on their mag changes by using their trigger finger to release their spent mag, but this is for lightly trained people who aren't normally into guns.

It would be the most dummy simple firearm possible, optimized around people who aren't really into guns and only expected to practice with them a little bit. Delayed recoil for minimized kick, QD can compatible, and mostly loaded with subsonic ammo for minimized noise, but still cycle reliably with a variety of ammo types without adding any adjustable gas block.

The humanitarian peacekeepers it would get issued to would be expected to usually be using:
>Subsonic ball ammo most of the time (because around civilians)
>QD shorty flowthrough suppressors
>Red dots with a large window and minimal nonsense options they need to fumble with (no different reticles or colors, just a dot with manual brightness setting with Off as the lowest setting and that's it)
>Fashlight that just goes on and off and nothing else (no strobe or different brightness settings, not even momentary, just On/Off and nothing else)
>Maybe a forward grip installed ahead of time just so they don't have to overthink where to put their hand. I probably wouldn't even add an adjustable stock just so they have one less thing they need to think about.
>Translucent curved 30+ round magazines. Adding round count markings to the back side similar to what Lancer mags do would help make things even more idiot-proof, but not essential. Existing CZ Scorpion style mags would do fine.

The more preexisting AR standard parts its compatible with, the better. Two stage triggers, AR style handguards from the AR-V line, etc etc.

There could also be strategic value in making versions chambered in less common pistol calibers like 40S&W and 45ACP just for the sake of making sure local gangs or terrorist groups who try to steal the weapons can't make use of their existing access to 9mm ammo.

The version issued to peacekeeping forces would probably be semiautomatic only. But a select fire version would be easy to make for more highly trained forces who may want to carry the same weapon as partner forces. Also able to cycle reliably with supersonic hollowpoints for forces who decide they want that.

In addition to being for government-funded orgs to be issues to people who are unlikely to train very much or be into guns at all, it would also be a great product to market to civilians who just want to buy a single simple firearm to defend their homes.