Posted: 12/9/2016 7:16:04 PM EDT
| After YEARS of dealing with slashes, starbursts and blobs its over. Vortex knocked it out of the park with this one. The spitfire ar is fantastic. Glass is clear. The reticle is awesome. After 4 micros, 2 comp m4s , comp m3 , MRO and various others I am at peace. Thank you. Thank you. I cant believe i didnt get a prism years ago. You rock vortex. |
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How about a Spitfire AR with ADM QD mount for $249.99?
https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/1248/ |
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Awesome! We're glad you guys like the Spitfire! Any idea if the Spitfire AR 1x will come with any different reticle options in the future, perhaps even a Gen II? This would be my favorite carbine optic on the market if it weren't for the DRT reticle. I get that the primary focus was speed, but the 3 MOA center dot severely hinders accuracy beyond 50 yards. To a less important degree, I also feel like a single, large outer ring or horseshoe would actually increase speed vs. the two of varying thicknesses. In other words, I either wish it had an EOTech-like reticle with a single, large ring and a fine 1-1.5 MOA center dot, OR a variation of the Holosun Paralow ACSS reticle with a large outer ring and a chevron in the middle... Really, anything with a finer central aiming point and only one "speed / centering ring" (for lack of a better term) would make this a much more versatile optic with tons of utility. The illumination should be adequate enough to compensate for a smaller central aiming point as far as visibility is concerned, and the ability to engage 8-12" targets with some semblance of accuracy to 200 yards would more than make up for any perceived shortcomings of a smaller dot. |
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Quoted:but the 3 MOA center dot severely hinders accuracy beyond 50 yards |
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And? I can do that with irons. Being able to place a round on a deer at an average hunting distance does not mean that accuracy isn't hindered at practical carbine ranges... Try hitting an 8" steel plate at 300 yards in a carbine course with a dot that appears 9" wide at that range and let me know if your opinion is still the same. My point was, some of the "fastest" reticles out there still include a reasonably fine central aiming point (anywhere from .25 - 2 MOA, with the average being about 1 MOA). Vortex's own V-Brite reticle uses a 1.5 MOA center dot that would be very well suited for this type of application.
It's still a great optic, I just wish there was more than one reticle choice. |
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And? I can do that with irons. Being able to place a round on a deer at an average hunting distance does not mean that accuracy isn't hindered at practical carbine ranges... Try hitting an 8" steel plate at 300 yards in a carbine course with a dot that appears 9" wide at that range and let me know if your opinion is still the same. My point was, some of the "fastest" reticles out there still include a reasonably fine central aiming point (anywhere from .25 - 2 MOA, with the average being about 1 MOA). Vortex's own V-Brite reticle uses a 1.5 MOA center dot that would be very well suited for this type of application. It's still a great optic, I just wish there was more than one reticle choice. I think we also need to get an idea of what kind of accuracy you expect from a red dot before moving up to a scope before we can really get into the accuracy requirements. |