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4/1/2014 7:49:43 AM EDT
Wow...
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ptac-16-mid-length-5-56mm-1-9-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html
4/1/2014 8:15:40 AM EDT
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Not exactly a blowout, $10 less than they usually are.
4/1/2014 8:22:18 AM EDT
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I don't think the mid lengths were ever that cheap huh?
4/1/2014 8:28:45 AM EDT
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how does it compare to this one?
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ptac-16-m4-1-7-upper-without-bcg-or-ch-bushnell-1x32mm-red-dot.html
4/1/2014 8:33:18 AM EDT
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how does it compare to this one?
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Aside from obviously not coming with the red dot that upper comes with, the difference is the barrel twist and gas system length.
4/1/2014 8:47:34 AM EDT
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Aside from obviously not coming with the red dot that upper comes with, the difference is the barrel twist and gas system length.
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how does it compare to this one?
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ptac-16-m4-1-7-upper-without-bcg-or-ch-bushnell-1x32mm-red-dot.html

Aside from obviously not coming with the red dot that upper comes with, the difference is the barrel twist and gas system length.


I typed it a little too fast. Meant to ask which one is a better deal.
4/1/2014 8:50:37 AM EDT
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how does it compare to this one?
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ptac-16-m4-1-7-upper-without-bcg-or-ch-bushnell-1x32mm-red-dot.html

Aside from obviously not coming with the red dot that upper comes with, the difference is the barrel twist and gas system length.


I typed it a little too fast. Meant to ask which one is a better deal.

If you're asking strictly about value I'd go with the one you linked. That's like a $130 optic. So that's like getting the upper alone for $170
4/1/2014 9:05:58 AM EDT
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Would have been nice if the website let me place an order for one. I guess it is jammed up today.
4/1/2014 11:06:19 AM EDT
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are the ptac lines decent, I plan on getting one for a back up rifle or a spare, I heard there were issues with ptac are they resolved?
4/1/2014 11:16:44 AM EDT
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Lately it seems people have had nothing but good to say about them. You just have to keep in mind the price point here.
You can not buy a $200 PTAC upper and expect it to perform like a Krieger barreled upper or something. Keep the price in mind and you'll be very very happy with one for a spare/beater rifle.
4/1/2014 11:21:14 AM EDT
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Nevermind, I was able to finally get it to go through. I have ordered ptac before and they always look good. Uppers look like PSA Blems, but other than that, they are fine for an occasional shooter.
4/1/2014 3:16:44 PM EDT
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Meh, nothing to get excited about. It's a $90 unlined barrel, $50 upper, $25 upper parts, $15 FH, and $10 gas tube/block.
$190 is all that things worth. Pass.
4/1/2014 4:50:05 PM EDT
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no issues with mine. run one as a dedicated 22 without fail.  

same as the 556 one i have, not a problem at all.
4/1/2014 4:56:45 PM EDT
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And how long did these last this time?
A couple hours MAYBE ?
4/1/2014 5:01:29 PM EDT
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i think someone said 90 min if that..

they do go fast.  
4/1/2014 5:14:44 PM EDT
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i think someone said 90 min if that..

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i think someone said 90 min if that..

they do go fast.  


nah they were up for a long time, about 6 hours, i dont need one but i was constantly thinking about buying one just to throw in the safe
4/1/2014 5:24:54 PM EDT
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.
4/1/2014 5:25:10 PM EDT
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nah they were up for a long time, about 6 hours, i dont need one but i was constantly thinking about buying one just to throw in the safe
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i think someone said 90 min if that..

they do go fast.  


nah they were up for a long time, about 6 hours, i dont need one but i was constantly thinking about buying one just to throw in the safe

Wow. They had like 440 of em too when I checked shortly after they went up. lol
That's effing nuts.
4/1/2014 6:10:08 PM EDT
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.
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Eh, its going to be a dedicated .22 conversion upper for me. I'm not looking to shoot MOA at 500 yards hunting prairie dogs or something. unlined/lined isn't going to be a deal breaker in my case so I'm glad they put them up!
4/1/2014 6:20:05 PM EDT
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How did you check their inventory level?
4/1/2014 6:22:04 PM EDT
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Add the item to your cart and up the quantity until it says you can't order that many.
4/1/2014 8:02:00 PM EDT
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Add the item to your cart and up the quantity until it says you can't order that many.



So apparently they have 3668 Vortex Strikefires currently!
4/1/2014 8:06:49 PM EDT
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.
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while i agree id like to see more of the melonited line, but curiousity why do you realy dislike the unlined ones? some folks love em some dont and more dont care, so im just asking your thoughts on it.
4/1/2014 9:35:19 PM EDT
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while i agree id like to see more of the melonited line, but curiousity why do you realy dislike the unlined ones? some folks love em some dont and more dont care, so im just asking your thoughts on it.
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.



while i agree id like to see more of the melonited line, but curiousity why do you realy dislike the unlined ones? some folks love em some dont and more dont care, so im just asking your thoughts on it.


No problem, I just personally think CL or melonite is far better (especially for the little extra $). I don't mind unlined for "sport" or "target" use (shotguns, bolt actions, etc) but for defensive weapons (which may someday be relied upon) I feel the little extra is absolutely worth it. I just don't feel a defensive weapon is, in any way, somewhere I'd cheap out. Even with pistols, I only use Glocks because I love their tennifer barrels.
I can't see the point in getting a defensive/combat weapon that requires more maintenance than it should (or could be avoided). Just my .02, as I've said, to each their own, Nothing against them, I just wish they would go back to offering something more substantial, as in the melonited barrels they used to use (P-tac).
4/2/2014 4:36:46 AM EDT
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No problem, I just personally think CL or melonite is far better (especially for the little extra $). I don't mind unlined for "sport" or "target" use (shotguns, bolt actions, etc) but for defensive weapons (which may someday be relied upon) I feel the little extra is absolutely worth it. I just don't feel a defensive weapon is, in any way, somewhere I'd cheap out. Even with pistols, I only use Glocks because I love their tennifer barrels.
I can't see the point in getting a defensive/combat weapon that requires more maintenance than it should (or could be avoided). Just my .02, as I've said, to each their own, Nothing against them, I just wish they would go back to offering something more substantial, as in the melonited barrels they used to use (P-tac).
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.



while i agree id like to see more of the melonited line, but curiousity why do you realy dislike the unlined ones? some folks love em some dont and more dont care, so im just asking your thoughts on it.


No problem, I just personally think CL or melonite is far better (especially for the little extra $). I don't mind unlined for "sport" or "target" use (shotguns, bolt actions, etc) but for defensive weapons (which may someday be relied upon) I feel the little extra is absolutely worth it. I just don't feel a defensive weapon is, in any way, somewhere I'd cheap out. Even with pistols, I only use Glocks because I love their tennifer barrels.
I can't see the point in getting a defensive/combat weapon that requires more maintenance than it should (or could be avoided). Just my .02, as I've said, to each their own, Nothing against them, I just wish they would go back to offering something more substantial, as in the melonited barrels they used to use (P-tac).

I'm pretty sure no one is buying PTAC uppers to use to defend their lives with. They're being used as beater rifles or 10th and 12th rifles. lol
4/2/2014 8:46:45 AM EDT
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No problem, I just personally think CL or melonite is far better (especially for the little extra $). I don't mind unlined for "sport" or "target" use (shotguns, bolt actions, etc) but for defensive weapons (which may someday be relied upon) I feel the little extra is absolutely worth it. I just don't feel a defensive weapon is, in any way, somewhere I'd cheap out. Even with pistols, I only use Glocks because I love their tennifer barrels.
I can't see the point in getting a defensive/combat weapon that requires more maintenance than it should (or could be avoided). Just my .02, as I've said, to each their own, Nothing against them, I just wish they would go back to offering something more substantial, as in the melonited barrels they used to use (P-tac).
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.



while i agree id like to see more of the melonited line, but curiousity why do you realy dislike the unlined ones? some folks love em some dont and more dont care, so im just asking your thoughts on it.


No problem, I just personally think CL or melonite is far better (especially for the little extra $). I don't mind unlined for "sport" or "target" use (shotguns, bolt actions, etc) but for defensive weapons (which may someday be relied upon) I feel the little extra is absolutely worth it. I just don't feel a defensive weapon is, in any way, somewhere I'd cheap out. Even with pistols, I only use Glocks because I love their tennifer barrels.
I can't see the point in getting a defensive/combat weapon that requires more maintenance than it should (or could be avoided). Just my .02, as I've said, to each their own, Nothing against them, I just wish they would go back to offering something more substantial, as in the melonited barrels they used to use (P-tac).


Glock doesn't use Tenifer anymore (haven't for a year or more now). They use an "alternantive" that has the same Rockwell hardness as Tenifer but it's less hazardous/caustic to those handling the chemical.

I can appreciate wanting something "over-built" but in reality, the average weekend range rat isn't going to push the capabilities/limits of a "non-lined" barrel past its breaking point....but as stated earlier "to each his own."
4/2/2014 5:09:01 PM EDT
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Glock doesn't use Tenifer anymore (haven't for a year or more now). They use an "alternantive" that has the same Rockwell hardness as Tenifer but it's less hazardous/caustic to those handling the chemical.

I can appreciate wanting something "over-built" but in reality, the average weekend range rat isn't going to push the capabilities/limits of a "non-lined" barrel past its breaking point....but as stated earlier "to each his own."
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.



while i agree id like to see more of the melonited line, but curiousity why do you realy dislike the unlined ones? some folks love em some dont and more dont care, so im just asking your thoughts on it.


No problem, I just personally think CL or melonite is far better (especially for the little extra $). I don't mind unlined for "sport" or "target" use (shotguns, bolt actions, etc) but for defensive weapons (which may someday be relied upon) I feel the little extra is absolutely worth it. I just don't feel a defensive weapon is, in any way, somewhere I'd cheap out. Even with pistols, I only use Glocks because I love their tennifer barrels.
I can't see the point in getting a defensive/combat weapon that requires more maintenance than it should (or could be avoided). Just my .02, as I've said, to each their own, Nothing against them, I just wish they would go back to offering something more substantial, as in the melonited barrels they used to use (P-tac).


Glock doesn't use Tenifer anymore (haven't for a year or more now). They use an "alternantive" that has the same Rockwell hardness as Tenifer but it's less hazardous/caustic to those handling the chemical.

I can appreciate wanting something "over-built" but in reality, the average weekend range rat isn't going to push the capabilities/limits of a "non-lined" barrel past its breaking point....but as stated earlier "to each his own."




Maverick, thanks for the thoughtout reply.  

I get that, but ultimately in a shtf situation all im worried about is accuracy, and bang factor.  to me a ptac barrel is better than no barrel, and thus, fine by me.  Of course i also started otu with milsurps, and well those are awesome but not lined a lot of the time.  

I agree with archer on what the average range rat, single ar owner has.  those of us who are hobbists of coruse id expect to want the lined and chf etc etc.. more than joe bob who wants an AR for fun or hunting / plinking.
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Maverick, thanks for the thoughtout reply.  

I get that, but ultimately in a shtf situation all im worried about is accuracy, and bang factor.  to me a ptac barrel is better than no barrel, and thus, fine by me.  Of course i also started otu with milsurps, and well those are awesome but not lined a lot of the time.  

I agree with archer on what the average range rat, single ar owner has.  those of us who are hobbists of coruse id expect to want the lined and chf etc etc.. more than joe bob who wants an AR for fun or hunting / plinking.
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The "unlined" part kills it for me. I wish PSA would drop this unlined barreled line and go back to the melonited P-tac's. For the measly few bucks (maybe $20?) you save by going unlined, isn't worth it to me. But to each their own.



while i agree id like to see more of the melonited line, but curiousity why do you realy dislike the unlined ones? some folks love em some dont and more dont care, so im just asking your thoughts on it.


No problem, I just personally think CL or melonite is far better (especially for the little extra $). I don't mind unlined for "sport" or "target" use (shotguns, bolt actions, etc) but for defensive weapons (which may someday be relied upon) I feel the little extra is absolutely worth it. I just don't feel a defensive weapon is, in any way, somewhere I'd cheap out. Even with pistols, I only use Glocks because I love their tennifer barrels.
I can't see the point in getting a defensive/combat weapon that requires more maintenance than it should (or could be avoided). Just my .02, as I've said, to each their own, Nothing against them, I just wish they would go back to offering something more substantial, as in the melonited barrels they used to use (P-tac).


Ok, now you're just starting to creep me out.

Glock doesn't use Tenifer anymore (haven't for a year or more now). They use an "alternantive" that has the same Rockwell hardness as Tenifer but it's less hazardous/caustic to those handling the chemical.

I can appreciate wanting something "over-built" but in reality, the average weekend range rat isn't going to push the capabilities/limits of a "non-lined" barrel past its breaking point....but as stated earlier "to each his own."




Maverick, thanks for the thoughtout reply.  

I get that, but ultimately in a shtf situation all im worried about is accuracy, and bang factor.  to me a ptac barrel is better than no barrel, and thus, fine by me.  Of course i also started otu with milsurps, and well those are awesome but not lined a lot of the time.  

I agree with archer on what the average range rat, single ar owner has.  those of us who are hobbists of coruse id expect to want the lined and chf etc etc.. more than joe bob who wants an AR for fun or hunting / plinking.


Ok, now you're just starting to creep me out.
4/2/2014 5:51:11 PM EDT
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LOL