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5/20/2011 12:25:01 PM EDT
[#1]
bump for edit in OP
5/20/2011 3:10:43 PM EDT
[#2]
I will take the breakers as per your ad.
5/20/2011 3:14:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I will take the breakers as per your ad.

Even kept them in the Ham Radio family!  
5/20/2011 3:42:41 PM EDT
[#4]
SCWolverine, how big is that panel going to be?

I've got a 12" x 12" sheet of .06" thick aluminum, a CNC router (made from 80/20 ), and I've been wanting to try cutting some larger aluminum pieces... may as well try to make a useful product.


So if you are interested, send me a drawing with measurements and I can cut it, send you a picture of it... and if you decide you want it, just cover the shipping.
5/20/2011 4:13:43 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
SCWolverine, how big is that panel going to be?

I've got a 12" x 12" sheet of .06" thick aluminum, a CNC router (made from 80/20 ), and I've been wanting to try cutting some larger aluminum pieces... may as well try to make a useful product.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_0NlcZHCxmYA/Tdb74iu_qOI/AAAAAAAAAoo/kGt2VGzfTfs/s640/2011-02-14_02-14-40_984.jpg

So if you are interested, send me a drawing with measurements and I can cut it, send you a picture of it... and if you decide you want it, just cover the shipping.


Oh, Brother––-you got it!  Gimmie a day or so to finish up the rack, then get the measurements and all and we'll talk!



thanks!
5/20/2011 4:16:07 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I will take the breakers as per your ad.


Roger that-hit me on IM and we'll get it rolling!

My local PO is open tomorrow from 0900-1000 (I know-what a flipping joke)

if you want me to ship tomorrow!

QRV
5/21/2011 6:42:25 AM EDT
[#7]
80-/20 Now Listed in This EE Posting

5/23/2011 1:08:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Cardboard Mock Up––-any suggestions/opinions/Intelligent Donkey Remarks?



Top to Bottom

LCD Vold Display
DPDT switch for AC or DC  HF UHF/VHF Bulkhead Antenna Mounts
Anderson PP  AC Input

plan to feed Battery 12v in bottom left corner of Anderson Block


5/24/2011 5:14:20 AM EDT
[#9]
I bought two of these yesterday


link

one for + one for -

it was what I could find locally.  Thing is, I'm not so sure it's the best option, so before I begin....I'm gonna look around some more.

I would think there would be an option that would allow you to feed the entire block through and not have to jumper from one to the next?

ideas?
5/24/2011 5:40:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I bought two of these yesterday

http://www.idealindustries.com/media/img/product/medium/89-208.jpg
link

one for + one for -

it was what I could find locally.  Thing is, I'm not so sure it's the best option, so before I begin....I'm gonna look around some more.

I would think there would be an option that would allow you to feed the entire block through and not have to jumper from one to the next?

ideas?

SCWolverine,
Have you looked at this option?


5/24/2011 6:02:25 AM EDT
[#11]
I had not, thanks! good idea and would work-and well.....also gotta think of fusing, considering going the way of a fuse/distribution panel since I sent my breakers to CO ?

fuse panel-or similar?

then using a ground bar to compliment?

5/24/2011 11:14:53 AM EDT
[#12]
If you don't need it fused for over 15 amps, GMT panels are nice and small. I can't remember if they make them for 12 volt or not... I know they are 24/48.

We always called them grasshopper fuses:

And here is an example of a panel, I would assume you can find them used for a heck of a lot cheaper tho. 10 Pos GMT Panel
5/24/2011 11:21:04 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
If you don't need it fused for over 15 amps, GMT panels are nice and small. I can't remember if they make them for 12 volt or not... I know they are 24/48.

We always called them grasshopper fuses: http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/m/mn95a9chYG8VJVZ4ztSZXAQ/140.jpg

And here is an example of a panel, I would assume you can find them used for a heck of a lot cheaper tho. 10 Pos GMT Panel


Thanks, but need to go at least 30A (just in case)....

never seen a Grasshopper fuse before?
5/24/2011 3:48:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
If you don't need it fused for over 15 amps, GMT panels are nice and small. I can't remember if they make them for 12 volt or not... I know they are 24/48.  We always called them grasshopper fuses: http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/m/mn95a9chYG8VJVZ4ztSZXAQ/140.jpg

even coming from a telcom background, i would not suggest using these type of fuses.  the entire raison d'être for the grasshopper fuse is indication and/or alarming of a blown fuse –– such information valuable info in a CO (or RT or CEV) environment as it helps remotely isolate the source of the problem (rectifier/battery plant, BDFB, power cabling, equipment, etc.).

the way the grasshopper fuse works is that once the fuse blows, the spring contact segment held in place by the fusible link pops up, and not only presses up against a third contact in the fuseholder (closing an alarm circuit), but also visually shows at the front of the fusepanel that the fuse is blown.  

nevertheless –– while these are good qualities –– outside of the telecom environment grasshopper form factor fuses are nearly impossible to find.  even within telecom circles most modern equipment is designed with breakers.  for this reason, i suggest that folks employing overcurrent protection in EMCOMM boxes and similar use either magentic/thermal circuit breakers, or use ATO-style (bladed) automotive fuses.  the latter are available at auto parts stores everywhere (even Walmart), and in a pinch can be "stolen" from some other unneeded circuit in a car.

ar-jedi

5/24/2011 4:10:27 PM EDT
[#15]





Quoted:



I bought two of these yesterday





http://www.idealindustries.com/media/img/product/medium/89-208.jpg


link





one for + one for -





it was what I could find locally.  Thing is, I'm not so sure it's the best option, so before I begin....I'm gonna look around some more.





I would think there would be an option that would allow you to feed the entire block through and not have to jumper from one to the next?





ideas?



I think you would be better off with a distribution block as used for powering multiple amps in car audio. One power in, multiple power outs.



ETA: http://www.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/power_distribution_block.html





 
5/24/2011 4:12:38 PM EDT
[#16]

click me

ar-jedi
5/24/2011 4:37:45 PM EDT
[#17]
Think THIS is the one?!?!

I'm ready to order-whatcha think-Speak Now or......

8 position with ground panel

ohhhhhhhh that Blue Sea is INCITING

and just a little more money––––maybe!

ETA:well almost 2 or 3 times the $$$––Worth it?????
5/24/2011 4:47:16 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Think THIS is the one?!?!

I'm ready to order-whatcha think-Speak Now or......

8 position with ground panel

ohhhhhhhh that Blue Sea is INCITING

and just a little more money––––maybe!

ETA:well almost 2 or 3 times the $$$––Worth it?????


ummm, she came in the room and made the choice for me...ordered the black one-not the Blue Sea
5/24/2011 4:51:46 PM EDT
[#19]
I've got the Blue Sea fuse block running some lights right now.  Its nice!
5/24/2011 4:57:33 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Think THIS is the one?!?!

I'm ready to order-whatcha think-Speak Now or......

8 position with ground panel

ohhhhhhhh that Blue Sea is INCITING

and just a little more money––––maybe!

ETA:well almost 2 or 3 times the $$$––Worth it?????


You must have bought it since the listing is gone. I am assuming it is the marine 8 circuit fuse panel with ground buss. I was eyeballing them at west marine and looked like a very nice option.

For those that are looking to use the ATC style automotive fuse block, you can get 20 and 30 amp self resetting breakers that pop right in. That is what I used in mine, and also like the fact that I can utilize common fuses as a backup.

I do like the clean look and the wiring with the marine style breakers, but decided that I wanted to be different, I used enough inspiration from ar-jedi and BD.


5/24/2011 5:14:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Think THIS is the one?!?!

I'm ready to order-whatcha think-Speak Now or......

8 position with ground panel

ohhhhhhhh that Blue Sea is INCITING

and just a little more money––––maybe!

ETA:well almost 2 or 3 times the $$$––Worth it?????




You must have bought it since the listing is gone. I am assuming it is the marine 8 circuit fuse panel with ground buss. I was eyeballing them at west marine and looked like a very nice option.

For those that are looking to use the ATC style automotive fuse block, you can get 20 and 30 amp self resetting breakers that pop right in. That is what I used in mine, and also like the fact that I can utilize common fuses as a backup.

I do like the clean look and the wiring with the marine style breakers, but decided that I wanted to be different, I used enough inspiration from ar-jedi and BD.




not marine ebay item # 330567670689
5/24/2011 5:28:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Think THIS is the one?!?!

I'm ready to order-whatcha think-Speak Now or......

8 position with ground panel

ohhhhhhhh that Blue Sea is INCITING

and just a little more money––––maybe!

ETA:well almost 2 or 3 times the $$$––Worth it?????




You must have bought it since the listing is gone. I am assuming it is the marine 8 circuit fuse panel with ground buss. I was eyeballing them at west marine and looked like a very nice option.

For those that are looking to use the ATC style automotive fuse block, you can get 20 and 30 amp self resetting breakers that pop right in. That is what I used in mine, and also like the fact that I can utilize common fuses as a backup.

I do like the clean look and the wiring with the marine style breakers, but decided that I wanted to be different, I used enough inspiration from ar-jedi and BD.




not marine ebay item # 330567670689



That will work!

"The Box" is one of the best things I have ever built. We had one storm come through today that really messed things up. Because of the massive power outages, damage and fatalities they had Skywarn, and ARES nets running, and many people were not making it into the repeaters, or would disappear as power was lost.  We had winds in excess of 60 mph and possibly 2 tornadoes. We have 152,000 without power in the area. The net running now most are running generators but many are not on the air since they do not have batteries.

As the storm rolled in the lightning was really kicking, so I unhooked the AC and kicked in the backup battery and was operating on backups throughout the storm. It really is great to have this box, and being able to switch in a second.


Thank you everyone for the inspirations and support/advice on the builds. Round 2 will be here in just a bit and it looks worse.
5/25/2011 3:48:36 AM EDT
[#23]


That will work!

"The Box" is one of the best things I have ever built. We had one storm come through today that really messed things up. Because of the massive power outages, damage and fatalities they had Skywarn, and ARES nets running, and many people were not making it into the repeaters, or would disappear as power was lost.  We had winds in excess of 60 mph and possibly 2 tornadoes. We have 152,000 without power in the area. The net running now most are running generators but many are not on the air since they do not have batteries.

As the storm rolled in the lightning was really kicking, so I unhooked the AC and kicked in the backup battery and was operating on backups throughout the storm. It really is great to have this box, and being able to switch in a second.



Thank you everyone for the inspirations and support/advice on the builds. Round 2 will be here in just a bit and it looks worse.


ar-jedi, you should go put this in one of your threads somewhere!
5/25/2011 5:08:49 AM EDT
[#24]
I like the BlueSea products, but I have found an all in one place to get anything almost that you need.



www.waytekwire.com



Download their catalog and order a hard copy for later reading material.

They do have a $35 minimum order or they add on $5.

The fuseblock you ordered is a generic one that almost all marine and automotive electrical places carry.



If you want an indicating type fuse they do make ATO/ATC fuses with an LED that lights when blown.

http://order.waytekwire.com/products2/M50/140/350/100/1/ATO/ATC%20Fuses-Light%20When%20Blown/Blade%20Fuses%20And%20Accessories/Circuit%20Protection/




5/25/2011 5:53:43 AM EDT
[#25]
I use these for all my fusing needs......................universal fuse block

And you can link them together for 4, 8, 12, 16, ect gang fuse blocks.
5/25/2011 7:38:17 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I use these for all my fusing needs......................universal fuse block

And you can link them together for 4, 8, 12, 16, ect gang fuse blocks.


That is exactly what I used!

ETA: More on the storms affects- There were a lot of people that would only break squelch on the repeater, and never make it above the noise floor. Most because they were on the HT's and most checking into the nets were mobile because of the power outages. I was relaying info for people without power and checking in on nets to give them updates on round 2. I did have a problem hitting one repeater with the jpole, downfall of an antenna inside and only 10 watts. Just one more reason to add a dedicated 2 meter rig. So now I have to get a smaller tuner and start rearranging the box a bit.
6/7/2011 10:58:02 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
SCWolverine, how big is that panel going to be?

I've got a 12" x 12" sheet of .06" thick aluminum, a CNC router (made from 80/20 ), and I've been wanting to try cutting some larger aluminum pieces... may as well try to make a useful product.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_0NlcZHCxmYA/Tdb74iu_qOI/AAAAAAAAAoo/kGt2VGzfTfs/s640/2011-02-14_02-14-40_984.jpg

So if you are interested, send me a drawing with measurements and I can cut it, send you a picture of it... and if you decide you want it, just cover the shipping.


IM Sent-Thanks!
6/11/2011 7:42:07 AM EDT
[#29]

this thread has picture delivery issues.

ar-jedi  
6/11/2011 9:02:43 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

this thread has picture delivery issues.

ar-jedi  


Ole' friend from years gone by met me for lunch the other day, took all panel components and made measurements-hopefully soon, I'll be able to get everything terminated and running-from there I'm sure I'll have some photos for you all to critique ...just no lusting over the green box...ain't that right BigDaddy?!
6/11/2011 10:05:16 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:

...just no lusting over the green box...ain't that right BigDaddy?!

Let'em all lust over green boxes everywhere!  They're moisture resistant so the drool won't matter much.  
7/4/2011 9:29:06 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:

this thread has picture delivery issues.

ar-jedi  


QFT.

ar-jedi
7/4/2011 9:41:10 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:

this thread has picture delivery issues.

ar-jedi  


Ole' friend from years gone by met me for lunch the other day, took all panel components and made measurements-hopefully soon, I'll be able to get everything terminated and running-from there I'm sure I'll have some photos for you all to critique ...just no lusting over the green box...ain't that right BigDaddy?!


Still waiting––-think I'm gonna call him tomorrow......I knew this would be where I was at nearly a month later....

7/5/2011 6:19:07 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

this thread has picture delivery issues.

ar-jedi  


Ole' friend from years gone by met me for lunch the other day, took all panel components and made measurements-hopefully soon, I'll be able to get everything terminated and running-from there I'm sure I'll have some photos for you all to critique ...just no lusting over the green box...ain't that right BigDaddy?!


Still waiting––-think I'm gonna call him tomorrow......I knew this would be where I was at nearly a month later....

http://www.fotolode.com/images/SCWolverine/jedilust.jpg



Just wait until you want to redesign the thing!
7/5/2011 3:20:36 PM EDT
[#35]
"jedilust.jpg"  ... Many of his gear pics have affected me in the same way.  

7/5/2011 5:01:09 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
"jedilust.jpg"  ... Many of his gear pics have affected me in the same way.  


yeah, i already got one of those:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bAmF2UT3xE

ar-jedi
7/5/2011 5:18:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
"jedilust.jpg"  ... Many of his gear pics have affected me in the same way.  





Jedi, will try to watch vid tomorrow...super slow down on the farm

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