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I'm really impressed with how vibrant everything looks, you're doing something right.
Good luck with the VB this year, I hate the little bastards. We've purchased some BT this year too, are you on any particular blend/schedule? |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. Yep you have a problem. You don't happen to live on a road with decent traffic do you? If so you need a veggie stand. |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. Yes, yes you do. On the other hand, there is something really appealing about a plant that produces that much food. |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. Yes, yes you do. On the other hand, there is something really appealing about a plant that produces that much food. Don't plant Burpee Pic-n-Pic hybrid or you will be harvesting daily. Unless you really like squash. |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. Two words: zucchini bread. |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. Two words: zucchini bread. Don't get me started. My wife makes the best zucchini bread. ETA: and cucumber bread. |
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Thanks! I am trying 1cc of this stuff, once a week: <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/051515ZZZ_zpsnlp2y06h.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/051515ZZZ_zpsnlp2y06h.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm really impressed with how vibrant everything looks, you're doing something right. Good luck with the VB this year, I hate the little bastards. We've purchased some BT this year too, are you on any particular blend/schedule? Thanks! I am trying 1cc of this stuff, once a week: <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/051515ZZZ_zpsnlp2y06h.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/051515ZZZ_zpsnlp2y06h.jpg</a> Appreciate it. I'll try the same schedule this year and we can compare notes in August. Looking forward to some zucchini bread Good luck! |
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Awesome! I really like the concrete raised beds vs. the wood... I'm going to have to keep an eye on CLIST to find me some of those affordable :D View Quote I like them very much as well. Maybe next year I can place some of those in my yard. My lumber was not treated, and between the deterioration from moisture and a twelve year old using it for axe practice.... they're slowly falling apart. |
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I have 2 rain barrels, one on each downspout. I raised them with 2 sets of blocks and they are gravity fed to drip lines. The whole thing was cobbled together from stuff at Lowe's. Here are some pics from last year when I set them up. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/061113_52_zps553e36ce.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/061113_52_zps553e36ce.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/061113_51_zps79f00b3a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/061113_51_zps79f00b3a.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nice. What's the lowdown on your drip irrigation? I have 2 rain barrels, one on each downspout. I raised them with 2 sets of blocks and they are gravity fed to drip lines. The whole thing was cobbled together from stuff at Lowe's. Here are some pics from last year when I set them up. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/061113_52_zps553e36ce.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/061113_52_zps553e36ce.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/061113_51_zps79f00b3a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/061113_51_zps79f00b3a.jpg</a> Awesome, thoughtful setup. Another idea I shall have to steal. |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. Your grandmother must have made pickles out of squash and zucchs. Just guessing... |
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My squash and zucchini are the opposite of yours. Both look great but my squash is blooming and the zucchini isn't. How many squash/zucchini plants do you have in this year? Four squash and two zucchini. This is my first season planting zukes. I've got 50ft of squash and 40 of zucchini. My name is HKH and I have a problem. I just carry it around and give it away. I think I do this due to the fact that that is what my grandfather did. Two words: zucchini bread. You would need to own a giant bakery to make that much Zucchini bread. Holy SMOKES that's a lot of squash. |
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Don't get me started. My wife makes the best zucchini bread. ETA: and cucumber bread. I have never tried cucumber bread. Would your wife mind sharing the recipe? She's out of town right now. I'll ask her when she gets back. Did you mulch with fresh wood chips? You do know they can rob your soil of nitrogen. |
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Don't get me started. My wife makes the best zucchini bread. ETA: and cucumber bread. I have never tried cucumber bread. Would your wife mind sharing the recipe? She's out of town right now. I'll ask her when she gets back. Did you mulch with fresh wood chips? You do know they can rob your soil of nitrogen. I know; I plan on amending to compensate. I tried straw last year and ended up seeding my garden with weeds. I noticed you are using what looks like pine bark - how has that been performing for you? I chose wood-chips because I can amend to compensate for the nitrogen, and till it in at the end of the season. I have been on a quest to find the perfect mulch that: 1. Will till in/break down at the end of the season 2. Once tilled in will improve or at least not hurt the soil 3. Won't acidify or alkalize the soil (much) 4. Won't add weed seeds to the garden. 5. Will help keep the soil cool and retain moisture. |
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I know; I plan on amending to compensate. I tried straw last year and ended up seeding my garden with weeds. I noticed you are using what looks like pine bark - how has that been performing for you? I chose wood-chips because I can amend to compensate for the nitrogen, and till it in at the end of the season. I have been on a quest to find the perfect mulch that: 1. Will till in/break down at the end of the season 2. Once tilled in will improve or at least not hurt the soil 3. Won't acidify or alkalize the soil (much) 4. Won't add weed seeds to the garden. 5. Will help keep the soil cool and retain moisture. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Don't get me started. My wife makes the best zucchini bread. ETA: and cucumber bread. I have never tried cucumber bread. Would your wife mind sharing the recipe? She's out of town right now. I'll ask her when she gets back. Did you mulch with fresh wood chips? You do know they can rob your soil of nitrogen. I know; I plan on amending to compensate. I tried straw last year and ended up seeding my garden with weeds. I noticed you are using what looks like pine bark - how has that been performing for you? I chose wood-chips because I can amend to compensate for the nitrogen, and till it in at the end of the season. I have been on a quest to find the perfect mulch that: 1. Will till in/break down at the end of the season 2. Once tilled in will improve or at least not hurt the soil 3. Won't acidify or alkalize the soil (much) 4. Won't add weed seeds to the garden. 5. Will help keep the soil cool and retain moisture. I am SO pissed off about THIS. I have used straw for years, for all kinds of reasons, but apparently somebody got lazy this past year. A couple of months ago I put some straw on a bed I'd worked up without a tiller...just my back...in an emergency when I had no real mulch of any kind here. (It's a flower bed that is really where we lay our pets to rest. It's our own little pet cemetery, so we just do flowers there---at the side of the veggie garden. ) Anyway, I was caught needing to dig that up, so I weeded it in the process. Now? It's f***ing grass as high as my knees. All around the flowers I was trying to mulch. I've not had this issue before. Same straw supplier, but this time it was HAY. FULL of grass seeds. Now I've gotta dig the whole thing up again. OH...as to your search for the perfect mulch...I am watching to see what people say. I have not found it. Pine bark has been the least intrusive as far as sucking the nitrogen out of my soil, but interested in what everyone else has to say. |
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Wood chips used as a mulch won't rob your soil of nitrogen. Just don't mix them in with the soil. Even if you amend with extra nitrogen, I think you will end up regretting it if you mix them into the soil. I mulch with straw and it works for me. I put down 5-6 inches in the spring and most of it will have decomposed by the following year. Whatever is left come spring just gets scraped offer the surface and tossed into the compost pile before I amend my beds for the new growing season. Sometimes I get an occasionally grain seed that germinates and pokes through the mulch layer, but they are easy to pull out in my raised beds. I wish I had access to sugar cane mulch. I've watched some gardening videos from You Tubers that use sugar cane mulch and it looks pretty ideal.
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Quoted: I am SO pissed off about THIS. I have used straw for years, for all kinds of reasons, but apparently somebody got lazy this past year. A couple of months ago I put some straw on a bed I'd worked up without a tiller...just my back...in an emergency when I had no real mulch of any kind here. (It's a flower bed that is really where we lay our pets to rest. It's our own little pet cemetery, so we just do flowers there---at the side of the veggie garden. ) Anyway, I was caught needing to dig that up, so I weeded it in the process. Now? It's f***ing grass as high as my knees. All around the flowers I was trying to mulch. I've not had this issue before. Same straw supplier, but this time it was HAY. FULL of grass seeds. Now I've gotta dig the whole thing up again. OH...as to your search for the perfect mulch...I am watching to see what people say. I have not found it. Pine bark has been the least intrusive as far as sucking the nitrogen out of my soil, but interested in what everyone else has to say. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't get me started. My wife makes the best zucchini bread. ETA: and cucumber bread. I have never tried cucumber bread. Would your wife mind sharing the recipe? She's out of town right now. I'll ask her when she gets back. Did you mulch with fresh wood chips? You do know they can rob your soil of nitrogen. I know; I plan on amending to compensate. I tried straw last year and ended up seeding my garden with weeds. I noticed you are using what looks like pine bark - how has that been performing for you? I chose wood-chips because I can amend to compensate for the nitrogen, and till it in at the end of the season. I have been on a quest to find the perfect mulch that: 1. Will till in/break down at the end of the season 2. Once tilled in will improve or at least not hurt the soil 3. Won't acidify or alkalize the soil (much) 4. Won't add weed seeds to the garden. 5. Will help keep the soil cool and retain moisture. I am SO pissed off about THIS. I have used straw for years, for all kinds of reasons, but apparently somebody got lazy this past year. A couple of months ago I put some straw on a bed I'd worked up without a tiller...just my back...in an emergency when I had no real mulch of any kind here. (It's a flower bed that is really where we lay our pets to rest. It's our own little pet cemetery, so we just do flowers there---at the side of the veggie garden. ) Anyway, I was caught needing to dig that up, so I weeded it in the process. Now? It's f***ing grass as high as my knees. All around the flowers I was trying to mulch. I've not had this issue before. Same straw supplier, but this time it was HAY. FULL of grass seeds. Now I've gotta dig the whole thing up again. OH...as to your search for the perfect mulch...I am watching to see what people say. I have not found it. Pine bark has been the least intrusive as far as sucking the nitrogen out of my soil, but interested in what everyone else has to say. You need some chickens to turn loose on the hay before before using it as mulch... heck, they'll even add some "amendments" to it while they're at it! I can relate though - I've been using compost from a nearby farm that sells great (usually) compost to dress/top-off the garden each spring - this year it was loaded with bermuda seed. Hopefully I'll have enough self generated compost this coming year to not have to externally source any. I've been extra generous with the bedding stray for the sheep and chickens and that's composting nicely. |
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You need some chickens to turn loose on the hay before before using it as mulch... heck, they'll even add some "amendments" to it while they're at it! Hopefully I'll have enough self generated compost this coming year to not have to externally source any. I've been extra generous with the bedding stray for the sheep and chickens and that's composting nicely. View Quote I don't have any self-generated compost, but I usually amend each year with Black Kow. This year I plan to add some Black Hen - I expect it will do the trick. If not it won't be the first gardening mistake I have made. It probably won't be the last either. |
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Well, the spring season went really well so far this year. I have noticed anybody can garden in spring here - decent dirt, enough sun, and stuff is almost kill proof. Last year as things came out in summer I never did get some of the stuff to survive in their place. So far I have been growing seedlings to replace the stuff that comes out, instead of trying to seed (all seeding attempts failed miserably last year once the heat arrived).
I am trying to decide what seeds I can start indoors that a) I don't already have growing b) Will survive the summer sun c) Will produce something in 90 days Any suggestions from the hive? I am trying to maximize variety in my day-tot-day harvest - last year I had weeks at a time where only 2 or 3 different things were coming in. Tomatoes are nice but I don't want to eat them as my only veggie for weeks. I already have the list below. I saw some things online that suggests certain varieties of broccoli may survive some heat, but it gets to be 3 digits here so I suspect it will bolt like mad. The swiss chard is already looking wilted during the day, despite watering and planting them in the darkest spot I could find in the beds. The stuff with the stars tends to yield it's produce all at once - so it won't do much to help the daily harvest variety. tomato eggplant (ichiban) potato* sweet potato* corn* parsnips* artichoke - won't produce until next year most likely oca* onions* garlic* parsnips* yardlong beans winged beans mellow yellow beans (almost done) peppers tomatilla ground cherry summer squash zucchini cucumber swiss chard brussels sprouts bok choy Any suggestions from the hive? I could plant more of the stuff that is already coming out I suppose - replace the mellow yellow beans, etc. I need to start the seedlings soon for them to be a decent size by the time I start getting more holes in my garden. Currently my list for consideration: more mellow yellow beans butternut squash more summer squash (in a different location that the early stuff) Fall season here is mainly a dud - we get early summer, from April-June, and late summer, from July-October. It doesn't cool off enough to plant cool-season stuff until mid-September, and by then the daylight is waning so everything is rather a crap shoot other than the carrots. (Ask me how I know ) Like every year, I probably won't be able to resist trying a fall planting, but this year I am trying to work more from early/late than spring-summer-fall. That and I will start the fall seedling in early August indoors and hope to get enough size on them to let them finish in the time left. |
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I just looked at your pics from last year and didn't see any.. Will this be your first time trying ichiban eggplant? Have you tasted it in the past, we love it!
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I have heard lacinato kale (AKA dinosaur kale) will survive in the heat. I haven't grown it yet but I'm going to plant some in the fall and try to keep it alive all next year. Malabar spinach is supposedly a heat tolerant green but I think it takes some time to get going. I don't see any melons on your list. Most will probably take more than 90 days but if you go with some of the smaller fruiting varieties you might get them sooner. Okra would probably do well in your summer climate.
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I have heard lacinato kale (AKA dinosaur kale) will survive in the heat. I haven't grown it yet but I'm going to plant some in the fall and try to keep it alive all next year. Malabar spinach is supposedly a heat tolerant green but I think it takes some time to get going. I don't see any melons on your list. Most will probably take more than 90 days but if you go with some of the smaller fruiting varieties you might get them sooner. Okra would probably do well in your summer climate. View Quote Thanks for the quick reply! I have heard the same things about dinosaur kale. I am not a fan of kale but I have been slowly stretching my palette a little bit each year so maybe. I do have a honeydew started - It is slated to (hopefully) go up the trellis once the snow peas come out. I plan on trying to make slings for the fruit - I have never done this before so it should be interesting. I have seen Malabar spinach but never have grown it - have you grown this before? How is the taste? I saw on-line that sweet potato greens are supposedly really tasty cooked greens and I thought I might use those this summer - the sweets need to be trimmed anyway and I would rather eat them then throw the trimmings away if they are any good. Okra grows like gangbusters around here, but it takes a month or two to get started and I run into the biggest trouble July and August. I could plant it now and be fine but if I wait until then it will die about the time it really kicks into production. Also the beds are tall enough I end up having to climb onto them to harvest the okra, which gets old after the first few times. |
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I have never tried ichiban before - I saw it recommended on-line as less bitter. Since the only time I tried eggplant I was unimpressed I am hoping the variety choice plus a saltwater soak will change my mind on the resultant purple offerings. It grows well around here so I thought I ought to give it a try instead of rejecting it out of hand. Do you have a preferred recipe to help me wet my feet (so to speak) with them? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have heard lacinato kale (AKA dinosaur kale) will survive in the heat. View Quote Must be reading the same books We have some in the garden for a trial this year next to some curly leaf and some flat leaf (planted last fall) and they all look great. It will be interesting to see how they look in late July. My wife will toss it in a salad but I prefer it cooked with some onions and garlic. |
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For kale I prefer to either mix the baby leaves into salads (sparingly) or juice the large leaves. Another option for the large leaves is zuppa tuscana. That stuff is delicious. I tried growing malabar spinach one year but got horrible germination and the birds got the rest. I haven't gotten around to ordering more seeds yet.
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For kale I prefer to either mix the baby leaves into salads (sparingly) or juice the large leaves. Another option for the large leaves is zuppa tuscana. That stuff is delicious. I tried growing malabar spinach one year but got horrible germination and the birds got the rest. I haven't gotten around to ordering more seeds yet. View Quote I just read the recipe for the soup. That does sound tasty - I may need to grow kale! |
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I didn't have any kale seeds on hand, so I went ahead and started some waltham butternuts, tenderpick bush beans, and a replacement yellow straight neck summer squash. The last time I grew the butternuts they only took half a season - that was one of the empty spots in the summer garden when it came out. I am hoping it will do as well in the late summer garden this year as it did in the early summer garden last year. Bush beans tend to produce fairly quickly, and the summer squash is a replacement if/when the current one dies.
Come August 1 I will start the seedlings for fall with plans to put them in the ground mid-September. This year I am going to be smarter about my fall choices and check the days to harvest on each of them. I didn't realize last year how much the days to harvest will extend when the days are shorter and the light is less bright towards fall. On line reading suggests add a full 2-4 weeks to whatever the package says. |
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You need some chickens to turn loose on the hay before before using it as mulch... heck, they'll even add some "amendments" to it while they're at it! I can relate though - I've been using compost from a nearby farm that sells great (usually) compost to dress/top-off the garden each spring - this year it was loaded with bermuda seed. Hopefully I'll have enough self generated compost this coming year to not have to externally source any. I've been extra generous with the bedding stray for the sheep and chickens and that's composting nicely. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have never tried cucumber bread. Would your wife mind sharing the recipe? She's out of town right now. I'll ask her when she gets back. Did you mulch with fresh wood chips? You do know they can rob your soil of nitrogen. I know; I plan on amending to compensate. I tried straw last year and ended up seeding my garden with weeds. I noticed you are using what looks like pine bark - how has that been performing for you? I chose wood-chips because I can amend to compensate for the nitrogen, and till it in at the end of the season. I have been on a quest to find the perfect mulch that: 1. Will till in/break down at the end of the season 2. Once tilled in will improve or at least not hurt the soil 3. Won't acidify or alkalize the soil (much) 4. Won't add weed seeds to the garden. 5. Will help keep the soil cool and retain moisture. I am SO pissed off about THIS. I have used straw for years, for all kinds of reasons, but apparently somebody got lazy this past year. A couple of months ago I put some straw on a bed I'd worked up without a tiller...just my back...in an emergency when I had no real mulch of any kind here. (It's a flower bed that is really where we lay our pets to rest. It's our own little pet cemetery, so we just do flowers there---at the side of the veggie garden. ) Anyway, I was caught needing to dig that up, so I weeded it in the process. Now? It's f***ing grass as high as my knees. All around the flowers I was trying to mulch. I've not had this issue before. Same straw supplier, but this time it was HAY. FULL of grass seeds. Now I've gotta dig the whole thing up again. OH...as to your search for the perfect mulch...I am watching to see what people say. I have not found it. Pine bark has been the least intrusive as far as sucking the nitrogen out of my soil, but interested in what everyone else has to say. You need some chickens to turn loose on the hay before before using it as mulch... heck, they'll even add some "amendments" to it while they're at it! I can relate though - I've been using compost from a nearby farm that sells great (usually) compost to dress/top-off the garden each spring - this year it was loaded with bermuda seed. Hopefully I'll have enough self generated compost this coming year to not have to externally source any. I've been extra generous with the bedding stray for the sheep and chickens and that's composting nicely. When I was in grad school I was involved in an experiment using different kinds of manure as fertilizer. Chicken manure was some seriously hot stuff. It's great droped here and there on the garden as you have suggested. Just don't ever shovel it raw onto anything you want to live. Okay, done jacking the OP's fabulous thread. Didn't mean to do that. |
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Wood chips used as a mulch won't rob your soil of nitrogen. Just don't mix them in with the soil. Even if you amend with extra nitrogen, I think you will end up regretting it if you mix them into the soil. I mulch with straw and it works for me. I put down 5-6 inches in the spring and most of it will have decomposed by the following year. Whatever is left come spring just gets scraped offer the surface and tossed into the compost pile before I amend my beds for the new growing season. Sometimes I get an occasionally grain seed that germinates and pokes through the mulch layer, but they are easy to pull out in my raised beds. I wish I had access to sugar cane mulch. I've watched some gardening videos from You Tubers that use sugar cane mulch and it looks pretty ideal. View Quote Wood chips can, actually, rob your soil of nitrogen, and very easily. That may not happen NEARLY as quickly in the Southwest where it's very dry. But in Kentucky, where we get 63" of rainfall per year (depending on who does the count) that can happen before you snap your fingers. |
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They absolutely can, but they need to be mixed in with the soil to do it. Used as a mulch (i.e. on top of the soil) they won't suck up the nitrogen. That's why I advised him not to till them into the soil at the end of the season as he mentioned.
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They absolutely can, but they need to be mixed in with the soil to do it. Used as a mulch (i.e. on top of the soil) they won't suck up the nitrogen. That's why I advised him not to till them into the soil at the end of the season as he mentioned. View Quote Well, I am telling you that here, where there is a lot of humidity, there is no such thing as "not mixed into the soil" as I believe you are thinking of it. Nothing just lays on top of the soil here. There is too much action by microorganisms and larger bugs that break down organic matter. The shift between the layers of soil here is very active. I'm not sure of the foundation from which you speak, but what you are saying...that "organic matter piled on top of the soil won't affect the nutrients within the soil" is simply not the case here. I cannot speak for where you are. Here, a LOT depends on the size of the mulch pieces ("wood chips" can be anything from 1/4" pieces to chunks the size of your hand) and the weather for the given year. Very dry year=less breakdown, and less nitrogen deprivation. very wet year =opposite. Now, I think we have gone beyond the bounds of the OP's thread, and we should STOP jacking it. |
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Thank you. Hopefully when the heat kicks on for the summer I won't lose everything. Thanks for sending some rain btw - we were running 30 days or so with nothing prior to yesterday. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nice harvest. Thank you. Hopefully when the heat kicks on for the summer I won't lose everything. Thanks for sending some rain btw - we were running 30 days or so with nothing prior to yesterday. We got rained on again yesterday. I hope the sun comes out today, the garden needs it. |
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Nice harvest. Thank you. Hopefully when the heat kicks on for the summer I won't lose everything. Thanks for sending some rain btw - we were running 30 days or so with nothing prior to yesterday. We got rained on again yesterday. I hope the sun comes out today, the garden needs it. Sorry to hear it. Hopefully you will get some sun soon. |
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