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6/11/2010 10:47:41 AM EDT
Saw on Survival Man a tool to start fires with.
Not sure what it is called. It was a wooden tub
with a rod that you pushed in. This made heat
which hopefully would give you an ember.
So what is it called?
Does it work?
Who sell them?


PITA45
6/11/2010 11:08:37 AM EDT
[#1]
do a google search for blast match......and they work very well


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRKzdSXH34
6/11/2010 11:18:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Fire piston
6/11/2010 11:20:18 AM EDT
[#3]
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Fire piston


Exactly, Ebay has tons of them.
6/11/2010 11:39:03 AM EDT
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Fire piston


Exactly, Ebay has tons of them.


Or with a little bit of work you can make one for a few bucks.
6/11/2010 5:28:42 PM EDT
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Fire piston




Yep. It works similar to a diesel engine by using compression to ignite the ember, not friction. Yes they work, but you need to get the right kind of tinder to use in them.
6/11/2010 6:53:29 PM EDT
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Fire piston


Yep. It works similar to a diesel engine by using compression to ignite the ember, not friction. Yes they work, but you need to get the right kind of tinder to use in them.


All the ones I have seen use char cloth.

Like a lot of gear, it seems to me to be a solution to a non-existent problem.
6/12/2010 11:55:15 AM EDT
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Fire piston


Yep. It works similar to a diesel engine by using compression to ignite the ember, not friction. Yes they work, but you need to get the right kind of tinder to use in them.


All the ones I have seen use char cloth.

Like a lot of gear, it seems to me to be a solution to a non-existent problem.


doesn't NEED char cloth.  Any kind of small tinder material will work.  The advantage I see to the fire piston is that you don't have to worry about elevation or cold evaporating your lighter fluid.
6/12/2010 4:11:46 PM EDT
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Fire piston




Yep. It works similar to a diesel engine by using compression to ignite the ember, not friction. Yes they work, but you need to get the right kind of tinder to use in them.




All the ones I have seen use char cloth.



Like a lot of gear, it seems to me to be a solution to a non-existent problem.




doesn't NEED char cloth.  Any kind of small tinder material will work.  The advantage I see to the fire piston is that you don't have to worry about elevation or cold evaporating your lighter fluid.
Fire steel then.





 
6/13/2010 12:55:44 PM EDT
[#9]
You're looking for a fire piston.

I got mine on eBay from this guy. I ordered one that came with a shirt, e-mailed him, and asked for char cloth instead of a shirt. I have PLENTY of char cloth now.
6/13/2010 3:14:34 PM EDT
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Fire piston


Yep. It works similar to a diesel engine by using compression to ignite the ember, not friction. Yes they work, but you need to get the right kind of tinder to use in them.


All the ones I have seen use char cloth.

Like a lot of gear, it seems to me to be a solution to a non-existent problem.


doesn't NEED char cloth.  Any kind of small tinder material will work.  The advantage I see to the fire piston is that you don't have to worry about elevation or cold evaporating your lighter fluid.
Fire steel then.

 


Why? a good fire piston and in 1 pump you can usually have an ember.  Fire pistons are actually an ancient tool from SE Asia and were popular in Europe for a short time before the invention of the sulfur match.
6/13/2010 5:07:45 PM EDT
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doesn't NEED char cloth.  Any kind of small tinder material will work.  The advantage I see to the fire piston is that you don't have to worry about elevation or cold evaporating your lighter fluid.


What do you use in yours?
6/13/2010 5:08:11 PM EDT
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Fire piston




Yep. It works similar to a diesel engine by using compression to ignite the ember, not friction. Yes they work, but you need to get the right kind of tinder to use in them.




All the ones I have seen use char cloth.



Like a lot of gear, it seems to me to be a solution to a non-existent problem.




doesn't NEED char cloth.  Any kind of small tinder material will work.  The advantage I see to the fire piston is that you don't have to worry about elevation or cold evaporating your lighter fluid.
Fire steel then.



 




Why? a good fire piston and in 1 pump you can usually have an ember.  Fire pistons are actually an ancient tool from SE Asia and were popular in Europe for a short time before the invention of the sulfur match.


Just a preference, personally I find it easier and I don't worry about o-rings.



 
6/13/2010 5:55:52 PM EDT
[#13]
A fire piston is a fire starter that you need to practice to get and stay proficient on.  I got the hang of mine when I first got it, then left it alone for a year(ish), and it took some work to get good at it again.
I prefer flint/steel, or better yet, a lighter.
6/15/2010 9:36:39 AM EDT
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doesn't NEED char cloth.  Any kind of small tinder material will work.  The advantage I see to the fire piston is that you don't have to worry about elevation or cold evaporating your lighter fluid.


What do you use in yours?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48a8pe9HxaM&feature=player_embedded    

Here's a good video that shows a couple of different, readily available tinder materials being used instead of char cloth.
6/15/2010 4:20:51 PM EDT
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doesn't NEED char cloth.  Any kind of small tinder material will work.  The advantage I see to the fire piston is that you don't have to worry about elevation or cold evaporating your lighter fluid.




What do you use in yours?





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48a8pe9HxaM&feature=player_embedded    



Here's a good video that shows a couple of different, readily available tinder materials being used instead of char cloth.
Here's another cool one showing what actually happens inside the piston.